Does God Exist?

by **Divair** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:39 am

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Hydronium wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Jesus has to offer.

Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Apophis has to offer?

Every time I read that name, I feel like rewatching SG-1.

by **Tlaceceyaya** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:40 am

Divair wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Apophis has to offer?

Every time I read that name, I feel like rewatching SG-1.

I'm rewatching it one episode a day right now. Just started season 2.

by **The Holy Michigan Empire** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:41 am

Divair wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Apophis has to offer?

Every time I read that name, I feel like rewatching SG-1.

Is it of any consequence that Apophis kind of looks like Obama?

by **Hydronium** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:41 am

San Splendido wrote:
Hydronium wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Jesus has to offer.

Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Madoka has to offer?

Because Madoka is anime. (-_-)

by **Conscentia** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:41 am

Hydronium wrote:Actually, yes there is. A few years ago, there was a guy who wanted to disprove god. So he did a lot of research, and found something astonishing. On the day that Jesus was crucified, there was a humongous (think 8 Richter) earthquake that stirred up enough dust to blot out the sun, and there was a total lunar eclipse simultaneously with the earthquake. It really makes one think "My God, what happened to Jesus?!?"

Nonsense. Earthquakes don't 'stir up' dust into the atmosphere.

The Valdivia earthquake in Chile in the 1960s was a 9.5, and it certainly didn't throw dust up into the atmosphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Valdivia_earthquake

by **Divair** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:42 am

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Divair wrote:Every time I read that name, I feel like rewatching SG-1.

I'm rewatching it one episode a day right now. Just started season 2.

Thor is best false god.

by **The Steel Magnolia** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:42 am

Hydronium wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Jesus has to offer.

Because they don't want it. Not because it exists or doesn't, but because they don't feel they need it.

That's their decision.

by **Dyakovo** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:44 am

Hydronium wrote:
San Splendido wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Madoka has to offer?

Because Madoka is anime. (-_-)

So? Your 'god' is a fictional character too.

by **Crysuko** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:45 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Hydronium wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Jesus has to offer.

Because they don't want it. Not because it exists or doesn't, but because they don't feel they need it.

That's their decision.

nyet. because said "gift" is non-existant. we don't need salvation, we need to put the silliness of religion aside and focus on fixing the world rather than wallow in religious fervour getting nothing done.

by **Real1ty** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:45 am

Nope.

by **Conscentia** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:46 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Hydronium wrote:Why can't people just take the gift of salvation that Jesus has to offer.

Because they don't want it. Not because it exists or doesn't, but because they don't feel they need it.
That's their decision.

I would take it, were Jesus actually the messiah. But he isn't.

by **Hydronium** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:47 am

For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

by **Dyakovo** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:48 am

Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

The day a doctor says that to me is the day I get a new doctor.

by **Divair** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:48 am

Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

Doctors don't say that.

by **The Holy Michigan Empire** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:49 am

Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

inb4 cynical atheist comments.

by **Dyakovo** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:49 am

Divair wrote:
Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

Doctors don't say that.

On TV they do.

by **Frisivisia** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:49 am

Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

Jesus was an asshole. I read his book.

by **Tlaceceyaya** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:49 am

Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

A doctor who believes that healing people is due to a miracle is a doctor who should be fired immediately.

by **Shaggai** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:49 am

Conscentia wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:Because they don't want it. Not because it exists or doesn't, but because they don't feel they need it.
That's their decision.

I would take it, were Jesus actually the messiah. But he isn't.

Jesus was never the Messiah. The miracles were all true, yes. But the only reason Jesus could do them was because he was vegan, not the Messiah.

by **Frisivisia** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:50 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Divair wrote:Doctors don't say that.

On TV they do.

I NEED 50 CCs OF MIRACLE-AMINE, STAT!

by **Conscentia** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:50 am

Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

· Doctors don't say that.
· For those that do believe that Jesus is the messiah: exhibit A - the Temple Mount. According to the messianic prophecies, as detailed in the book of Ezekiel, the messiah will build the third temple within his lifetime. Jesus did not build the third temple, as evidenced by it's non-presence upon the temple mount. You know what is on the temple mount? A mosque.

by **Abritus** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:51 am

Ainin wrote:
Abritus wrote:The world is not perfect to us the human race and just because you don't understand him does not mean that you should deny him because science while mathematics are an exact form of science most of the material there is theoretical meaning that scientists don't know how exactly things work but they have temporary established theories in order to get some ground on the given subject meaning that just because it is not perfect to your eyes it shouldn't exist.

tl;dr You still can't justify the existence of God.

I am not justifiyng his existence because he does exist wether your childish brain comprehends it or not, oh and nice cop out by the way i thought that you 'God deniers' were supposed to be the intelectual ones to take facts into account.

by **The Holy Michigan Empire** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:51 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

Jesus was an asshole. I read his book.

Healing the sick is a thug life.

Jesus didn't chose the thug life, the thug life chose him.

by **Hydronium** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:51 am

Conscentia wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:Because they don't want it. Not because it exists or doesn't, but because they don't feel they need it.
That's their decision.

I would take it, were it real.

Why can't you believe? The belief in Jesus brings such peace that you could never go back. I should know, I was once an atheist. It doesn't hurt. It just is all joy and peace in the knowledge that you're safe forevermore. Jesus died in a most excruciating way for you, but now He has risen and is looking down on you with love. He's just waiting for you to make that step, to accept Him as your savior.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:51 am

Hydronium wrote:For all you people who don't believe in Jesus: Remember that when one day you are in the hospital and the doctors say that "Only a miracle" could save you.

A doctor saves lives. It is his responsibility to try "up to the impossible" to save a life (in other words go above and beyond the call of duty if need be).

A doctor who says that only a miracle can save a patient is not a good doctor and, in fact, is not making his job right.

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