Does God Exist?

[Agymnum]

Actually, yes there is. A few years ago, there was a guy who wanted to disprove god. So he did a lot of research, and found something astonishing. On the day that Jesus was crucified, there was a humongous (think 8 Richter) earthquake that stirred up enough dust to blot out the sun, and there was a total lunar eclipse simultaneously with the earthquake. It really makes one think "My God, what happened to Jesus?!?"

Please cite the proper sources for this occurrence. We don't accept anecdotal evidence.

TL;DR: Citation needed.

[Tsuntion]

Actually, yes there is. A few years ago, there was a guy who wanted to disprove god. So he did a lot of research, and found something astonishing. On the day that Jesus was crucified, there was a humongous (think 8 Richter) earthquake that stirred up enough dust to blot out the sun, and there was a total lunar eclipse simultaneously with the earthquake. It really makes one think "My God, what happened to Jesus?!?"

Can you give a link to a reputable site reporting on this finding, or at the very least, the dude's name?

[Mavorpen]

Actually, yes there is. A few years ago, there was a guy who wanted to disprove god. So he did a lot of research, and found something astonishing. On the day that Jesus was crucified, there was a humongous (think 8 Richter) earthquake that stirred up enough dust to blot out the sun, and there was a total lunar eclipse simultaneously with the earthquake. It really makes one think "My God, what happened to Jesus?!?"

So basically God doesn't exist.

[Hydronium]

IDK the source. It was on PBS a couple of years ago.

[Darmadewa]

Yes, God do exist. It's up to you to believe or not. He already place his proof of existence in this world, waiting for human to discover it, but if you don't want to recognize him God already state in Qur'an in Chapter 109, Ayah 6

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion

[Tlaceceyaya]

Actually, yes there is. A few years ago, there was a guy who wanted to disprove god. So he did a lot of research, and found something astonishing. On the day that Jesus was crucified, there was a humongous (think 8 Richter) earthquake that stirred up enough dust to blot out the sun, and there was a total lunar eclipse simultaneously with the earthquake. It really makes one think "My God, what happened to Jesus?!?"

What I like most about your evidence is how you have sources.

[Agymnum]

IDK the source. It was on PBS a couple of years ago.

Then it's not evidence. No source; no evidence.

[Shaggai]

I have no idea. Who is this Samaritan and what does he or she have to do with this?

Just make your point as if I said yes and I can tear apart all of the other holes. Meanwhile I can see if I remember anything about this Samaritan.

Thank God for Google:

He [Allah] said, "We have tempted thy people since thou didst leave them. The Samaritan has led them into error." Then Moses returned ...
they [the Israelites] said, "... and we cast them [(gold) ornaments], as the Samaritan also threw them, into the fire." (Then he brought out for them a Calf, a mere body that lowed; and they said, "This is your god, and the god of Moses, whom he has forgotten." ...) ...
Moses said, "And thou, Samaritan, what was thy business?" ...
-- Sura 20:85-88, 95 (Arberry, slightly adapted)

Compare to this statement from the Old Testament (1 Kings 16:24):

Then Omri bought the hill now known as Samaria from its owner, Shemer, for 150 pounds of silver. He built a city on it and called the city Samaria in honor of Shemer.

Moses received the 10 commandments around 1446 BC, but Samaria wasn't even owned by Israel until King Omri's Reign (882-871 B.C.). And since Islam's God (Allah) was wrong, then he must not be God, since God must be perfect, flawless in every way. If he is wrong in one way, who says he wasn't in another. But the Bible (KJV) has no contradictions. The reason why others are flawed is the editing. For example, the people that published the NIV also published "The Joys of Gay Sex," and "The Satanic Bible."


BTW: John 3:16

For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

The reason why there is a "so" is the fact that the writer couldn't find an extreme enough word to comprehend how much God loved his people. He DIED for you. Why question that?

I never said that Islam was the truth. I believe in it just as much as I believe in Christianity. Christianity says that someone managed to get all of the animals in existence, or at least two of each species, onto a single boat.

Also, KJV has no contradictions? We had a whole thread for how the Bible had contradictions. Surely you can remember back to yesterday, right?

[Divair]

IDK the source. It was on PBS a couple of years ago.

If you can't back up your claims, don't make your claims.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Actually, yes there is. A few years ago, there was a guy who wanted to disprove god. So he did a lot of research, and found something astonishing. On the day that Jesus was crucified, there was a humongous (think 8 Richter) earthquake that stirred up enough dust to blot out the sun, and there was a total lunar eclipse simultaneously with the earthquake. It really makes one think "My God, what happened to Jesus?!?"

Yea, most of what I can find are not peer-reviewed journals, so would you mind looking it up, AND THEN come and talk to us about it?

[Divair]

He already place his proof of existence in this world, waiting for human to discover it

Source.

[Crysuko]

IDK the source. It was on PBS a couple of years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

[Tlaceceyaya]

IDK the source. It was on PBS a couple of years ago.

Well, surely you could find a different source.
I mean, a guy finding an earthquake, dust blocking out the sun AND a lunar eclipse happening simultaneously, and then going public with his findings? Must exist somewhere.

[Agymnum]

Yes, God do exist. It's up to you to believe or not. He already place his proof of existence in this world, waiting for human to discover it, but if you don't want to recognize him God already state in Qur'an in Chapter 109, Ayah 6

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion

Well that statement is just wrong right there because atheism is not a religion.

[Crysuko]

Yes, God do exist. It's up to you to believe or not. He already place his proof of existence in this world, waiting for human to discover it, but if you don't want to recognize him God already state in Qur'an in Chapter 109, Ayah 6

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion

Well that statement is just wrong right there because atheism is not a religion.

This. if atheism is a religion, then off is a TV channel and not collecting stamps is a hobby,

[Hydronium]

I can't find the source. It was on either pbs of some low-paid publishing company. The poor guy that published his hindings was laughed out of the scientific community soon after the video. I found somthing else, though http://www.nbcnews.com/id/47555983/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/quake-reveals-day-jesus-crucifixion-researchers-believe/#.UdhfijvVArU

[The Steel Magnolia]

Stupidity?

Magnolia can't reply to me after I presented him the definition of faith and still refuses it:


faith
/fāTH/
Noun
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
Synonyms
belief - trust - confidence - credence - credit

Her, first off. Second of all, I had to leave. Third of all, trust requires doubt.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I don't know. Neither do you.

I choose to believe, but what's belief without doubt anyway?

Stupidity?

If you have no doubt, it's not belief. It's knowledge.

[Mavorpen]

I can't find the source. It was on either pbs of some low-paid publishing company. The poor guy that published his hindings was laughed out of the scientific community soon after the video. I found somthing else, though http://www.nbcnews.com/id/47555983/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/quake-reveals-day-jesus-crucifixion-researchers-believe/#.UdhfijvVArU

...Did you read that article? At all?

[Tlaceceyaya]

I can't find the source. It was on either pbs of some low-paid publishing company. The poor guy that published his hindings was laughed out of the scientific community soon after the video. I found somthing else, though http://www.nbcnews.com/id/47555983/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/quake-reveals-day-jesus-crucifixion-researchers-believe/#.UdhfijvVArU

Wow, seriously?
An earthquake happened at some point over a decade in a general area?

[Dyakovo]

1. If you believe in the omniscient god of Christianity, you don't think he'll know that you are only believing in him just to avoid hell? You think hedging your bets (selfishness) is salvation-worthy?
2. Belief is not a choice. One cannot choose what convinces you and what doesn't. If you think otherwise, you are simply lying to yourself.
3. Pretending to believe doesn't prevent you ending up in hell.

I don't believe in him just because he saved me from hell. My life used to be a wreck, but now i am safe, happy, and free.¹ He restored my soul.² And now i am here, telling you guys so that you may feel as loved as i do.³ And i look forward to the day that i will see my saviour⁴

1: Religion has helped you, congratulations. Still doesn't make it true.
2: No, he didn't. There is no soul.
3: I don't need imaginary friends to feel loved.
4: No need to wait. No, I'm not seriously suggesting he off himself

[Divair]

I can't find the source. It was on either pbs of some low-paid publishing company. The poor guy that published his hindings was laughed out of the scientific community soon after the video. I found somthing else, though http://www.nbcnews.com/id/47555983/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/quake-reveals-day-jesus-crucifixion-researchers-believe/#.UdhfijvVArU

...Did you read that article? At all?

Clearly not.

[Hydronium]

Here's somthing else http://redmoonrapture.com/crucifixion/33-ad-crucifixion-eclipse.html

[Dyakovo]

IDK the source. It was on PBS a couple of years ago.

Translation: I lied and was hoping that you guys would just buy my bullshit.

[Darmadewa]

Yes, God do exist. It's up to you to believe or not. He already place his proof of existence in this world, waiting for human to discover it, but if you don't want to recognize him God already state in Qur'an in Chapter 109, Ayah 6

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion

Well that statement is just wrong right there because atheism is not a religion.

Religion is faith, a belief. Atheism on the other hand is the belief of no god, if I am right. So, am I wrong if I assumed that atheist is also a sort of religion? A faith of Godlessness?