Does God Exist?

[Dilange]

[Tsuntion]

I believe in a god but he couldn't exist. I'll just slap a maybe on this question.

Huh. Why believe in a god that you know is unable to exist?

[Tyriece]

I believe in a god but he couldn't exist. I'll just slap a maybe on this question.

Huh. Why believe in a god that you know is unable to exist?

Maybe he means he is unable to prove its existence, but still believes.

[Hydronium]

I know for a fact that God exists, that Jesus is his son, and that He came to earth to save all mankind from sin. You see, when sin entered the world, all of mankind was doomed to a real place called Hell. But since He sacrificed himself on the cross, sinners may have eternal life if they accept the true fact that Jesus is Lord. TG me for more.

[Independent State of The Falkland Island]

I think God exists, but I am not really religious.

~Falkland Islands Dictator Franz Voß

[Brocwika]

This thread again?

[Tsuntion]

I know for a fact that God exists, that Jesus is his son, and that He came to earth to save all mankind from sin. You see, when sin entered the world, all of mankind was doomed to a real place called Hell. But since He sacrificed himself on the cross, sinners may have eternal life if they accept the true fact that Jesus is Lord. TG me for more.

I find forum posts lend themselves to a more interesting discussion and they have the advantage of more formatting, so I hope you don't mind that this ain't a TG.

How do you know for a fact that what you have said is true (in particular that God exists, since the other parts rest on that)?

[Dragonic Outland]

I know for a fact that God exists, that Jesus is his son, and that He came to earth to save all mankind from sin. You see, when sin entered the world, all of mankind was doomed to a real place called Hell. But since He sacrificed himself on the cross, sinners may have eternal life if they accept the true fact that Jesus is Lord. TG me for more.

All or at least most of this is written in the Bible/Gospel. However, Bible/Gospel is written by humans and humans do make errors. What is there to say that this humans have faked that god existed?

[Czechanada]

I believe my signature accurately answers the question.

[Southern Babylonia]

I'm sure this won't end the way all other threads on this topic have ended.

With me not sticking around long enough to find out. Oh well.

[Southern Babylonia]

I know for a fact that God exists, that Jesus is his son, and that He came to earth to save all mankind from sin. You see, when sin entered the world, all of mankind was doomed to a real place called Hell. But since He sacrificed himself on the cross, sinners may have eternal life if they accept the true fact that Jesus is Lord. TG me for more.

So, Moses and Abraham went to hell?

(And if you trust Leviticus, so did he, Jesus or not, since I'm sure he broke some of his own rules.)

[Amarra]

No.

I love how you say god does not exist with an Amarrian flag. Gold, Glory, God.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I know for a fact that God exists, that Jesus is his son, and that He came to earth to save all mankind from sin. You see, when sin entered the world, all of mankind was doomed to a real place called Hell. But since He sacrificed himself on the cross, sinners may have eternal life if they accept the true fact that Jesus is Lord. TG me for more.

Well, I would like to have a polite conversation here, if you don't mind.

I, like you, was raised in a Christian household, although I am an Agnostic Deist (thank you for the clarification for the poster here who did clarify it). Many questions arise:

1 - What is the true nature of "sin"? You see, sin entered this world because Adam and Eve ate from the fruit of knowledge, or so the story of the bible goes. So is it sin because they tried to gain knowledge, or is it because they disobeyed a ridiculous order for which there was no failsafe? And if God made us in his likeness, why didn't he let us have the fruit of knowledge and the fruit of life without having to steal it out of him?

2 - How can you accept the interventionist nature of God in natural affairs when it stands to reason a reasonable creator would not interfere with the machine he has created? And let's remind ourselves that God is perfection for many, so why does he have to intervene if he made the universe in his perfection?

3 - How do you know this God exists? And why do atheists have to believe anything you may say that Jesus is Lord? He was just a man, whose divinity is debatable, so why should atheist bow down to an authority who may or may not be divine?

[The USOT]

Depends on the God. If you mean a god in the ancient greek context, I can imagine that possibility of similar entities existing. If you mean in the biblical context, certainly not.

If you mean in the deist context, I have no idea but see no reason why it would.

[Agorya]

Has anyone bothered to ask Him if He exists?

[Ainin]

There is no God until proven otherwise.

[Hydronium]

I know for a fact that God exists, that Jesus is his son, and that He came to earth to save all mankind from sin. You see, when sin entered the world, all of mankind was doomed to a real place called Hell. But since He sacrificed himself on the cross, sinners may have eternal life if they accept the true fact that Jesus is Lord. TG me for more.

All or at least most of this is written in the Bible/Gospel. However, Bible/Gospel is written by humans and humans do make errors. What is there to say that this humans have faked that god existed?

The only evidence I need is the fact that I'm sitting here talking about Christianity. You see, soon after Jesus acceded, and when the early church was forming, the Romans appointed this guy named Nero to office. Now, Nero didn't like Christians. In fact, he hated them so much that he threw them unarmed into the Colosseum with wild animals just to watch them get torn apart, and covered other Christians in tar and used than to light his gardens. (For comparison, Mohammed had a huge army that followed him loyally, and kill anyone that didn't convert to Islam). If Christianity was just a lie, most people would have walked away, since the persecution. Plus, that was just the first of many oppressive leaders that killed Christians for sport. But here I am, talking to you about this while there are people in places like Saudi Arabia, where the mere mention of the name Jesus would most likely get you killed. So, I come to the conclusion that Jesus is real, since Christianity was able to survive such persecution.

[Grave_n_idle]

I know for a fact that God exists, that Jesus is his son, and that He came to earth to save all mankind from sin. You see, when sin entered the world, all of mankind was doomed to a real place called Hell. But since He sacrificed himself on the cross, sinners may have eternal life if they accept the true fact that Jesus is Lord. TG me for more.

I don't accept that you know any of that for 'a fact'.

I think you might well believe it, people do - but I don't think you have any good evidence that would stand up to impartial scrutiny.

[Tvill]

No

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[The Truth and Light]

Depends on the god.

[Czechanada]

There is no God until proven otherwise.

In all fairness, the Dungeons and Dragons Player's Handbook v3.5 says that Ehlonna exists. That sounds like proof enough.

[Grave_n_idle]

All or at least most of this is written in the Bible/Gospel. However, Bible/Gospel is written by humans and humans do make errors. What is there to say that this humans have faked that god existed?

The only evidence I need is the fact that I'm sitting here talking about Christianity.

And I sit here and talk to Jews, who have been even more persecuted, and don't believe that Jesus was the messiah.

And their religion was persecuted BY your religion - so their religion must be even truer than yours.

[Grave_n_idle]

Has anyone bothered to ask Him if He exists?

I asked him. He said he doesn't.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

All or at least most of this is written in the Bible/Gospel. However, Bible/Gospel is written by humans and humans do make errors. What is there to say that this humans have faked that god existed?

The only evidence I need is the fact that I'm sitting here talking about Christianity. You see, soon after Jesus acceded, and when the early church was forming, the Romans appointed this guy named Nero to office. Now, Nero didn't like Christians. In fact, he hated them so much that he threw them unarmed into the Colosseum with wild animals just to watch them get torn apart, and covered other Christians in tar and used than to light his gardens. (For comparison, Mohammed had a huge army that followed him loyally, and kill anyone that didn't convert to Islam). If Christianity was just a lie, most people would have walked away, since the persecution. Plus, that was just the first of many oppressive leaders that killed Christians for sport. But here I am, talking to you about this while there are people in places like Saudi Arabia, where the mere mention of the name Jesus would most likely get you killed. So, I come to the conclusion that Jesus is real, since Christianity was able to survive such persecution.

You do realize that after Nero, Vespasian and other "Pro-Vespasians" who included Christians did erase all records of the Julio-Claudian line, and in particular Nero, and they filled in the gaps with anti Julio-Claudian propaganda correct?

Saying he committed atrocities in this manner is really unfounded if you don't have veritable sources.

[Czechanada]

All or at least most of this is written in the Bible/Gospel. However, Bible/Gospel is written by humans and humans do make errors. What is there to say that this humans have faked that god existed?

The only evidence I need is the fact that I'm sitting here talking about Christianity. You see, soon after Jesus acceded, and when the early church was forming, the Romans appointed this guy named Nero to office. Now, Nero didn't like Christians. In fact, he hated them so much that he threw them unarmed into the Colosseum with wild animals just to watch them get torn apart, and covered other Christians in tar and used than to light his gardens. (For comparison, Mohammed had a huge army that followed him loyally, and kill anyone that didn't convert to Islam). If Christianity was just a lie, most people would have walked away, since the persecution. Plus, that was just the first of many oppressive leaders that killed Christians for sport. But here I am, talking to you about this while there are people in places like Saudi Arabia, where the mere mention of the name Jesus would most likely get you killed. So, I come to the conclusion that Jesus is real, since Christianity was able to survive such persecution.

Firstly, Mohamed taxed people into conversion after conquest. Furthermore, Jesus is a central figure in Islam; I highly doubt saying the name of someone who appears multiple times in the Quran would get one killed for blasphemy.