Does God Exist?

[Crysuko]

Well, yeah. I've kind of expected that at this point. It requires less intellectual honesty to actually read my posts and to simply pretend as though I'm just not explaining myself enough.

Or, the simpler explanation, which is that dozens of posters across months of posting have found your vapid, uninspired posts to be precisely that. Vapid, uninspired, and laden with moving goalposts.

you utter facking hypocrite! you're accusing him of being uninspired when all you do is lash out at people with bland disagreements. no arguments, just insipid attacks that stem from your chronic inability to acknowledge the other guy has said anything.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Sounds a bit generic, what was the reason?

Where to begin...

1. Pro-life: Not giving women a choice as to whether to have children or not is really fucking great, isn't it?
2. Anti-stem cell research: Anti-science?
3. Anti-gay marriage: Anti-civil rights?
4. Catholic Priests found to molest children: And these men are supposed to be God's messengers?

What reason would I have to be Christian? Honestly?

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[Mavorpen]

Riiiight.

Which impacts our daily lives... how precisely?

So now you've shifted the goal posts from "it's not possible," to "it doesn't' affect our daily lives." Nice.

[Hydronium]

True, true. Like i said before, i'm usually studying end times prophesy. Revelation, daniel, ect. evangelism isn't my spititual gift, i just got bored and didn't want people Jesus-bashing

Why do you keep ignoring me when I point out that Jesus isn't the messiah?

But what about all the prophesies he fulfilled?

for example:
Palm 22:18-"They divide my garments among themselves and throw dice for my clothing."
John 19:23-24-"When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they divided his clothes among the four of them. They also took his robe, but it was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. 24 So they said, “Rather than tearing it apart, let’s throw dice for it.” This fulfilled the Scripture that says, “They divided my garments among themselves and threw dice for my clothing.” So that is what they did."

[Mavorpen]

I am pretty fucking sure I can read them.

Then actually demonstrate that you can do so by actually replying to things that I've actually said.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Why do you keep ignoring me when I point out that Jesus isn't the messiah?

But what about all the prophesies he fulfilled?

for example:
Palm 22:18-"They divide my garments among themselves and throw dice for my clothing."
John 19:23-24-"When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they divided his clothes among the four of them. They also took his robe, but it was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. 24 So they said, “Rather than tearing it apart, let’s throw dice for it.” This fulfilled the Scripture that says, “They divided my garments among themselves and threw dice for my clothing.” So that is what they did."

A prophecy made earlier was written down as true by someone with access to that prophecy. Wow.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Which impacts our daily lives... how precisely?

So now you've shifted the goal posts from "it's not possible," to "it doesn't' affect our daily lives." Nice.

Not really, I was wrong. I still fail to see how it's relevant however.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Why do you keep ignoring me when I point out that Jesus isn't the messiah?

But what about all the prophesies he fulfilled?

for example:
Palm 22:18-"They divide my garments among themselves and throw dice for my clothing."
John 19:23-24-"When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they divided his clothes among the four of them. They also took his robe, but it was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. 24 So they said, “Rather than tearing it apart, let’s throw dice for it.” This fulfilled the Scripture that says, “They divided my garments among themselves and threw dice for my clothing.” So that is what they did."

It's all or nothing. Unless he fulfils all of the criteria, he isn't the Messiah.

lrn 2 Christ

[Mavorpen]

So now you've shifted the goal posts from "it's not possible," to "it doesn't' affect our daily lives." Nice.

Not really, I was wrong. I still fail to see how it's relevant however.

It's relevant BECAUSE you were wrong. Holy fucking shit I cannot believe I just had to type that.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I am pretty fucking sure I can read them.

Then actually demonstrate that you can do so by actually replying to things that I've actually said.

If you don't want to be associated with the opposite opinion please do not make it an implicit signal about your disagreement about a reason in general and explain your reasons why you disagree, then MAYBE we will be able to discuss in a proper manner which doesn't involve one of us guessing what the other one means.

Context clues, your should probably learn how to spot them

[Agymnum]

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All the crackers you can stand

Sexually repressed church sluts.

1. I can bake my own.

2. Church wine tastes like shit (at least, at my church it did).

3. Not a big fan of bread. I'm a rice guy.

4. Asexual.

I know you were joking.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Not really, I was wrong. I still fail to see how it's relevant however.

It's relevant BECAUSE you were wrong. Holy fucking shit I cannot believe I just had to type that.

Erm.

Not really? For one, the article doesn't actually prove that we'll know how a person will act and react to something (tell me, do we have any ability to know exactly how someone will react when we tell them that their wife was just killed? No? It's in the far future, if at all). For two, it still doesn't seem to have any impact on the way in which we act towards one another, which is far more... human.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

But what about all the prophesies he fulfilled?

for example:
Palm 22:18-"They divide my garments among themselves and throw dice for my clothing."
John 19:23-24-"When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they divided his clothes among the four of them. They also took his robe, but it was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. 24 So they said, “Rather than tearing it apart, let’s throw dice for it.” This fulfilled the Scripture that says, “They divided my garments among themselves and threw dice for my clothing.” So that is what they did."

It's all or nothing. Unless he fulfils all of the criteria, he isn't the Messiah.

lrn 2 Christ

I guess that's also dependent on his religion. The Jewish, and I'm sure you know this, do nit believe Jesus was the Messiah.

If, however, he's not religious, well, my point isn't important.

[Mavorpen]

If you don't want to be associated with the opposite opinion please do not make it an implicit signal about your acceptance of biological determinism.

Context clues, your should probably learn how to spot them

The thing I argued about was not whether I accept biological determinism. It's whether I believe that you can predict someone's actions solely based on genetics alone which is what your post suggested that I believed.

You can't make a prediction of a person's actions through their genes. That is, with 100% certainty, impossible.

You said nothing about chemicals. You said nothing about external environmental factors. You narrowed it down to PURELY genes. So please, fuck off with pretending that you ACTUALLY said something that ACTUALLY replied to something that I ACTUALLY said. You didn't. You created a straw man and are now attempting to backpedal massively by stating that you were talking about biological determinism all along when you clearly weren't.

[Hydronium]

But what about all the prophesies he fulfilled?

for example:
Palm 22:18-"They divide my garments among themselves and throw dice for my clothing."
John 19:23-24-"When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they divided his clothes among the four of them. They also took his robe, but it was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. 24 So they said, “Rather than tearing it apart, let’s throw dice for it.” This fulfilled the Scripture that says, “They divided my garments among themselves and threw dice for my clothing.” So that is what they did."

It's all or nothing. Unless he fulfils all of the criteria, he isn't the Messiah.

lrn 2 Christ

That was just and example. Here is a list (excused the "biased" link) of a lot of the prophesies Jesus fulfilled

http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm

And this time i looked through it.

[Conscentia]

Why do you keep ignoring me when I point out that Jesus isn't the messiah?

But what about all the prophesies he fulfilled?

for example:
Palm 22:18-"They divide my garments among themselves and throw dice for my clothing."
John 19:23-24-"When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they divided his clothes among the four of them. They also took his robe, but it was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom. 24 So they said, “Rather than tearing it apart, let’s throw dice for it.” This fulfilled the Scripture that says, “They divided my garments among themselves and threw dice for my clothing.” So that is what they did."

· You take Psalm 22:18 out of context. Read it the context.
· Psalms is not a prophetic book. There are literally no prophecies in psalms.
· John is New Testament. The prophecies are written in the Old Testament.
· What about all the prophecies he didn't fulfil?
He didn't build the third temple in his lifetime.
He didn't re-establish the Sanhedrin in his lifetime.
He didn't end all death. (Instead he himself died on the crucifix.)
He didn't end all war in his lifetime.

[Tlaceceyaya]

It's relevant BECAUSE you were wrong. Holy fucking shit I cannot believe I just had to type that.

Erm.

Not really? For one, the article doesn't actually prove that we'll know how a person will act and react to something (tell me, do we have any ability to know exactly how someone will react when we tell them that their wife was just killed? No? It's in the far future, if at all). For two, it still doesn't seem to have any impact on the way in which we act towards one another, which is far more... human.

You said:

I'm more than my body. Who I am, as a person, is more than just my biological, physical body.

And the way in which we all interact within the world is reflected thusly: we're not biological computers, or rather, we don't act like we are, because being human is about more than logic, about more than biological programming.

I reject biological determinism.

You didn't say "we cannot predict with 100% accuracy how someone will react if we do something with our current technology."

[Crysuko]

It's relevant BECAUSE you were wrong. Holy fucking shit I cannot believe I just had to type that.

Erm.

Not really? For one, the article doesn't actually prove that we'll know how a person will act and react to something (tell me, do we have any ability to know exactly how someone will react when we tell them that their wife was just killed? No? It's in the far future, if at all). For two, it still doesn't seem to have any impact on the way in which we act towards one another, which is far more... human.

that's not the point. he was proving one of your points wrong, and seeing as how you've given the well-worn goalposts a good ol' shift you might as well commit to it. also, it could be used to predict how people might interact. inb4 he doesn't read this is blindly attempts to refute it like a blindfolded child swinging haplessly at a pinata.

[Conscentia]

It's all or nothing. Unless he fulfils all of the criteria, he isn't the Messiah.

lrn 2 Christ

That was just and example. Here is a list (excused the "biased" link) of a lot of the prophesies Jesus fulfilled

http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm

And this time i looked through it.

Most of those are either taken out of context or aren't even prophecies.
The list is missing all the important prophecies such as constructing the third temple.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Bake Sales

Free Booze

All the crackers you can stand

Sexually repressed church sluts.

1. I can bake my own.

2. Church wine tastes like shit (at least, at my church it did).

3. Not a big fan of bread. I'm a rice guy.

4. Asexual.

I know you were joking.

Shit, now I regret never going to church.

For the sluts.

[Mavorpen]

Erm.

Not really? For one, the article doesn't actually prove that we'll know how a person will act and react to something (tell me, do we have any ability to know exactly how someone will react when we tell them that their wife was just killed? No? It's in the far future, if at all).

That's nice. But that isn't what you said. You said we couldn't predict a person's actions. You didn't say we couldn't KNOW with certainty EXACTLY how someone will react in the far future.

And you have the gall to seriously complain that I don't explain myself? If you ACTUALLY meant that we cannot predict with certainty what someone will do in the future, fucking say that.

For two, it still doesn't seem to have any impact on the way in which we act towards one another, which is far more... human.

Which wasn't your claim, so who gives a fucking shit?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If you don't want to be associated with the opposite opinion please do not make it an implicit signal about your acceptance of biological determinism.

Context clues, your should probably learn how to spot them

The thing I argued about was not whether I accept biological determinism. It's whether I believe that you can predict someone's actions solely based on genetics alone which is what your post suggested that I believed.

You can't make a prediction of a person's actions through their genes. That is, with 100% certainty, impossible.

You said nothing about chemicals. You said nothing about external environmental factors. You narrowed it down to PURELY genes. So please, fuck off with pretending that you ACTUALLY said something that ACTUALLY replied to something that I ACTUALLY said. You didn't. You created a straw man and are now attempting to backpedal massively by stating that you were talking about biological determinism all along when you clearly weren't.

Nope, you clearly do not know how to debate. If I say something about genes, I expect you to agree or disagree when you reply and your reasons why. You also said nothing about you agreeing or disagreeing with genetic determinism. If you can't clarify your position then someone here isn't actually doing their homework, and that isn't me.

[Lake Gaston]

Define "God".

Another question: which religion? There are a lot of religions that can refer their god simply as 'god'.

[Hydronium]

That was just and example. Here is a list (excused the "biased" link) of a lot of the prophesies Jesus fulfilled

http://www.bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm

And this time i looked through it.

Most of those are either taken out of context or aren't even prophecies.

Where in Ezekiel does it say that? I mean, what verse?

[Betulla]

Define "God".

Another question: which religion? There are a lot of religions that can refer their god simply as 'god'.

Probably the Christian God.