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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:22 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:...What? Why would you need a DNA test? Simply ask the race of their parents.

Trying to draw a line between what is "pure" and what is "mixed" is dumb

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:Those people are normally mixed, passing them off as one or the other is stupid and racist.

I knew you were full of shit.
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Postby Agymnum » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:22 pm

Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.


And this is basically my stance on the issue.

We're all bloody African. So if you want to point out racial pride, then do cultural pride instead. Take pride in German traditions if you're German, not purely in being of German blood.

Take pride in American traditions if you're American, not purely in being a white American or a black American or whatever other sort of ethnic group you are a part of.
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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:23 pm

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Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:I'm agreeing with him, it happens when people aren't purposely antagonistic, you should try it.

No thank you. I'll stick with dispelling the idiotic drivel that you post.

Too bad you're wrong in this case.
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:23 pm

Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.

:eyebrow: The Bible says we come from modern day Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates. It is unclear if Adam and Eve we're black or more Middle Eastern looking...
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:23 pm

Abasha wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Maybe it's because teenagers tend to be like that?

Are you fucking kidding me with this stupid shit?


Um.. No, Hispanics and whites have never talked to me like that, just blacks. So no, I am not kidding.

It's hilarious how you think your personal anecdotes, which are quit possible utter fucking lies, are actually relevant in a debate.
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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:23 pm

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Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:Trying to draw a line between what is "pure" and what is "mixed" is dumb

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:Those people are normally mixed, passing them off as one or the other is stupid and racist.

I knew you were full of shit.

There is no contradiction. Nice try.
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Postby The Twilight Zone » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:24 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.


And this is basically my stance on the issue.

We're all bloody African. So if you want to point out racial pride, then do cultural pride instead. Take pride in German traditions if you're German, not purely in being of German blood.

Take pride in American traditions if you're American, not purely in being a white American or a black American or whatever other sort of ethnic group you are a part of.


I think this would probably a good way of explaining it. ^
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:24 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No thank you. I'll stick with dispelling the idiotic drivel that you post.

Too bad you're wrong in this case.

Not one bit, sorry.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Agorya » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:24 pm

Agymnum wrote:
American Pride wrote:

Na Brother im just saying that im white and proud. Im also proud of other things. But im not afraid to say that im proud to be white. Which is taboo in America. Because nowadays Reverse discrimination is running rampant


I don't understand this whole reverse discrimination deal.

Discriminating against white people is discrimination, plain and simple. Calling it reverse-discrimination is laughable because the opposite of discrimination would be integration and racial equality. Surely you're not opposed to that?

But on-point, I find that it's difficult to let-go a lot of the racial tensions that characterized the eras of racism in the 20th century and earlier. To this day my grandparents - proud of their Filipino heritage - despise the Japanese out of simmering hate over what happened during WWII.


It's doublespeak. Think Orwell. "Reverse discrimination"
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:24 pm

Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.

You seek to devoid people the right of being proud of who they are? :eyebrow:
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:24 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
I knew you were full of shit.

There is no contradiction. Nice try.

Really? So stating there is no way to determine what is pure and what is mixed and this is dumb, yet you seem to be able to do it and state that certain individuals are mixed?

Seems legit.
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"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Agymnum » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:25 pm

Abasha wrote:Um.. No, Hispanics and whites have never talked to me like that, just blacks. So no, I am not kidding.


The problem is that your basing your opinion on purely personal experiences.

I can say that I hate Christians and find them oppressive because all the Christians I've ever met in real life were dicks who insisted that I either embrace Jesus or go to hell. But I don't hate Christians (though I may find their beliefs silly) because I know out there are good Christians who actually follow what Jesus said and are good to people and all that jazz.

If you base your opinions purely on your personal experiences, then you will either have vary narrow-minded opinions or you'll need to travel the world to actually be able to justify your opinions.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:25 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.

:eyebrow: The Bible says we come from modern day Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates. It is unclear if Adam and Eve we're black or more Middle Eastern looking...

No. Humans came from Africa.
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Postby Linaresa » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:25 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.


And this is basically my stance on the issue.

We're all bloody African. So if you want to point out racial pride, then do cultural pride instead. Take pride in German traditions if you're German, not purely in being of German blood.

Take pride in American traditions if you're American, not purely in being a white American or a black American or whatever other sort of ethnic group you are a part of.


Agreed. People are people... well HUMANS. Homo Sapiens Sapiens and yadda yadda. Now cultural pride I actually like (to an extent, too much of anything is quite bad)

I'm sure there will be a eugenicist or "White Pridist" who will try eating me for this.
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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:25 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:Anyone is allowed to have pride in whatever aspect of their identity that they choose to.

I agree with you but maybe saiwania doesn't.

He doesn't have to. I think the idea of purity is pretty stupid, and I think he is being arbitrary.
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:25 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote: :eyebrow: The Bible says we come from modern day Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates. It is unclear if Adam and Eve we're black or more Middle Eastern looking...

No. Humans came from Africa.

sure they did :roll:
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Postby Agymnum » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:26 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.

:eyebrow: The Bible says we come from modern day Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates. It is unclear if Adam and Eve we're black or more Middle Eastern looking...


The Bible is not scientific evidence of our origins and will be thoroughly dismissed in this debate. Stick to the facts.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:26 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No. Humans came from Africa.

sure they did :roll:

I'm glad you agree.
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Postby Linaresa » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:26 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.

You seek to devoid people the right of being proud of who they are? :eyebrow:

Don't be proud of race. Be proud of your culture.

Two different things. Learn it for the sakes of maturity and further human development.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:27 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Seeing as how the proportion of blacks in jail and prison is far, far great than that of any other ethnicity in the United States, I somehow doubt the accuracy of your sentiments.

"I think you're lying" is not a valid argument. She also said in her area, which means exactly that.

Actually, hotshot, it is a perfectly valid argument in regards to anecdotal evidence.
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Postby The Twilight Zone » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.

You seek to devoid people the right of being proud of who they are? :eyebrow:


I'm not saying your race isn't part of who you are, but it doesn't really affect your beliefs, actions, habits, etc. Not directly, anyhow.
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Linaresa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:You seek to devoid people the right of being proud of who they are? :eyebrow:

Don't be proud of race. Be proud of your culture.

Two different things. Learn it for the sakes of maturity and further human development.

hmm...so basically be devoid of being proud of who you are? :eyebrow:
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Postby Linaresa » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.

:eyebrow: The Bible says we come from modern day Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates. It is unclear if Adam and Eve we're black or more Middle Eastern looking...

Holy books are rarely a source for supporting your argument. In this case, you failed.
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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:There is no contradiction. Nice try.

Really? So stating there is no way to determine what is pure and what is mixed and this is dumb, yet you seem to be able to do it and state that certain individuals are mixed?

Seems legit.

Really so you're going to chop up my posts and take them out of context because something I posted made you have a bitch fit? I don't believe in the idea of purity I think it's stupid especially when it comes to race, therefore trying to pass off people who are "not mixed" as blacks that look white is stupid, because they are mixed at some level. Taking things out of context is the epitome of a strawman.
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Postby Linaresa » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:28 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Linaresa wrote:Don't be proud of race. Be proud of your culture.

Two different things. Learn it for the sakes of maturity and further human development.

hmm...so basically be devoid of being proud of who you are? :eyebrow:

Well, isn't pride a sin?
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