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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:12 pm

Abasha wrote:Maybe that is for a reason? In my area it always seem like they are involved in crime, but I am talking about if I stabbed one of them for touching me. You would hear of poor Alice, and they would treat me like the next George Zimmerman. I don't get why they seem so violent in general, even the ones that grow up in good homes (younger generation)

I'm not violent.

Guess that dispels your bubble, right?
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Postby Agymnum » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:13 pm

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Abasha wrote:Maybe that is for a reason? In my area it always seem like they are involved in crime, but I am talking about if I stabbed one of them for touching me. You would hear of poor Alice, and they would treat me like the next George Zimmerman. I don't get why they seem so violent in general, even the ones that grow up in good homes (younger generation)

I'm not violent.

Guess that dispels your bubble, right?


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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:what about those who can "pass" as white but are actually African americans? can they have white pride?

Those people are normally mixed, passing them off as one or the other is stupid and racist.

passing is pretty much out of fashion these days but im trying to make sure that saiwania understands what im talking about.

its a question of WHO is allowed to have white pride and who isn't.
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Postby Harkonna » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:14 pm

See, this whole thread is pretty daft. Since a lot of the opposition to 'white pride' comes from people who identify as social marxists, they generally contend that only those 'races' who have been oppressed and crushed under the heel of the 'bourgeois' have a right to be proud of their perseverance. In turn, the rich, white, robotic old men running the world (which comprise the entirety of the white 'race') have no right to feel proud of their own race, because they're evil capitalist oppressors. Or something like that anyway.

To be honest, I don't think anyone gets to be proud of their race. Period. Base your pride off of your own achievements, and don't try to leech some sort of subsidiary credit off of someone truly unique, who just happened to have approximately the same amount of melanin as you.
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Postby The Silence of Night » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:14 pm

I believe all racial pride is stupid, and If you want to be proud of something, be proud of your ancestors culture, not their skin color.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No thank you. I read it.

So you're admitting that yur response to my post was irrelevant. Okay cool.

No. If any response was irrelevant, it was yours. Ash said that there are blacks, and quite a few of them, that could be considered white. You said that those are normally mixed, which is irrelevant since he didn't state whether he was including mixed individuals or not. You attacked a shitty straw man.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:15 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:Those people are normally mixed, passing them off as one or the other is stupid and racist.

passing is pretty much out of fashion these days but im trying to make sure that saiwania understands what im talking about.

its a question of WHO is allowed to have white pride and who isn't.

Anyone is allowed to have pride in whatever aspect of their identity that they choose to.
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:15 pm

American Pride wrote:Im white and proud and have no shame. Anyone should be able to be proud of their race. We were all created equal. Saying that whites can be proud of their own races. Means that your a hypocrite and you think that Minorities should have special treatment. Whites in America Shouldn't be punished for slavery hundreds of years ago. When some of our families came here after 1860 including mine

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Postby Agymnum » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:16 pm

Vazdania wrote:
American Pride wrote:Im white and proud and have no shame. Anyone should be able to be proud of their race. We were all created equal. Saying that whites can be proud of their own races. Means that your a hypocrite and you think that Minorities should have special treatment. Whites in America Shouldn't be punished for slavery hundreds of years ago. When some of our families came here after 1860 including mine

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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:16 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:So you're admitting that yur response to my post was irrelevant. Okay cool.

No. If any response was irrelevant, it was yours. Ash said that there are blacks, and quite a few of them, that could be considered white. You said that those are normally mixed, which is irrelevant since he didn't state whether he was including mixed individuals or not. You attacked a shitty straw man.

So you are saying that the black people he is talking about are not mixed? Oh and how exactly would he or anyone else know that without a DNA test?
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:17 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:passing is pretty much out of fashion these days but im trying to make sure that saiwania understands what im talking about.

its a question of WHO is allowed to have white pride and who isn't.

Anyone is allowed to have pride in whatever aspect of their identity that they choose to.

Wow. That doesn't address a single thing he said.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Abasha » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:17 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Abasha wrote:Maybe that is for a reason? In my area it always seem like they are involved in crime, but I am talking about if I stabbed one of them for touching me. You would hear of poor Alice, and they would treat me like the next George Zimmerman. I don't get why they seem so violent in general, even the ones that grow up in good homes (younger generation)

I'm not violent.

Guess that dispels your bubble, right?


Read my previous posts, I have met nice younger black people and some of my neighbors are older and respectable black individuals. Please read my previous post where I did say not all black people were violent and disrespectful, it just seems like either a vast majority OR a vocal minority of younger kids are like that. I am 19 still (about to turn 20) and many of them 15-25 try to get with me because they think I am an easy whore because I have a tramp stamp and a tattoo on my upper back. They are the ones I meet mostly, and they are the ones who seem to be the most inclined to seem like that.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:18 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No. If any response was irrelevant, it was yours. Ash said that there are blacks, and quite a few of them, that could be considered white. You said that those are normally mixed, which is irrelevant since he didn't state whether he was including mixed individuals or not. You attacked a shitty straw man.

So you are saying that the black people he is talking about are not mixed? Oh and how exactly would he or anyone else know that without a DNA test?

...What? Why would you need a DNA test? Simply ask the race of their parents.
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Postby American Pride » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:18 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Vazdania wrote: :clap: :clap: :clap:


If you think your race is a point of pride, surely you can look into yourself and find more fitting achievements?



Na Brother im just saying that im white and proud. Im also proud of other things. But im not afraid to say that im proud to be white. Which is taboo in America. Because nowadays Reverse discrimination is running rampant

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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:18 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:Anyone is allowed to have pride in whatever aspect of their identity that they choose to.

Wow. That doesn't address a single thing he said.

I'm agreeing with him, it happens when people aren't purposely antagonistic, you should try it.
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:19 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:passing is pretty much out of fashion these days but im trying to make sure that saiwania understands what im talking about.

its a question of WHO is allowed to have white pride and who isn't.

Anyone is allowed to have pride in whatever aspect of their identity that they choose to.

I agree with you but maybe saiwania doesn't.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:20 pm

Abasha wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I'm not violent.

Guess that dispels your bubble, right?


Read my previous posts, I have met nice younger black people and some of my neighbors are older and respectable black individuals. Please read my previous post where I did say not all black people were violent and disrespectful, it just seems like either a vast majority OR a vocal minority of younger kids are like that. I am 19 still (about to turn 20) and many of them 15-25 try to get with me because they think I am an easy whore because I have a tramp stamp and a tattoo on my upper back. They are the ones I meet mostly, and they are the ones who seem to be the most inclined to seem like that.

Maybe it's because teenagers tend to be like that?

Are you fucking kidding me with this stupid shit?
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Postby Agymnum » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:20 pm

American Pride wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
If you think your race is a point of pride, surely you can look into yourself and find more fitting achievements?



Na Brother im just saying that im white and proud. Im also proud of other things. But im not afraid to say that im proud to be white. Which is taboo in America. Because nowadays Reverse discrimination is running rampant


I don't understand this whole reverse discrimination deal.

Discriminating against white people is discrimination, plain and simple. Calling it reverse-discrimination is laughable because the opposite of discrimination would be integration and racial equality. Surely you're not opposed to that?

But on-point, I find that it's difficult to let-go a lot of the racial tensions that characterized the eras of racism in the 20th century and earlier. To this day my grandparents - proud of their Filipino heritage - despise the Japanese out of simmering hate over what happened during WWII.
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Postby Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:20 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:So you are saying that the black people he is talking about are not mixed? Oh and how exactly would he or anyone else know that without a DNA test?

...What? Why would you need a DNA test? Simply ask the race of their parents.

Trying to draw a line between what is "pure" and what is "mixed" is dumb since almost everyone is "mixed" at some point. Ergo calling someone who looks white but has significant black heritage "passing" is stupid no matter which one you consider them to be passing as.
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No, you're better because you're Dissy.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:21 pm

Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Wow. That doesn't address a single thing he said.

I'm agreeing with him, it happens when people aren't purposely antagonistic, you should try it.

No thank you. I'll stick with dispelling the idiotic drivel that you post.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Linaresa » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:21 pm

Racial pride in general is quite childish and outdated anyways. We all had one common ancestor, all were Africans (shoo shoo creationists), and genetically we are the same if not extremely similar.

Racial supremacy of any kind is just plain moronic.
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:21 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Vazdania wrote: :clap: :clap: :clap:


If you think your race is a point of pride, surely you can look into yourself and find more fitting achievements?

as well as being white. Because in'm proud to be myself, which includes being white.
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Postby Abasha » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:21 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Abasha wrote:
Read my previous posts, I have met nice younger black people and some of my neighbors are older and respectable black individuals. Please read my previous post where I did say not all black people were violent and disrespectful, it just seems like either a vast majority OR a vocal minority of younger kids are like that. I am 19 still (about to turn 20) and many of them 15-25 try to get with me because they think I am an easy whore because I have a tramp stamp and a tattoo on my upper back. They are the ones I meet mostly, and they are the ones who seem to be the most inclined to seem like that.

Maybe it's because teenagers tend to be like that?

Are you fucking kidding me with this stupid shit?


Um.. No, Hispanics and whites have never talked to me like that, just blacks. So no, I am not kidding.
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Postby The Twilight Zone » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:21 pm

Considering I put very little work into being white, I think it'd be hard to justify being proud of being white, at least in my case.
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Postby Harkonna » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:22 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes wrote:I'm agreeing with him, it happens when people aren't purposely antagonistic, you should try it.

No thank you. I'll stick with dispelling the idiotic drivel that you post.

It'd be swell if you only had 200 posts.
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