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Postby St George » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:24 pm

Oh woo is me i'm a straight and i'm soooo persecuted.

yeah, come back when you face some actual discrimination for being straight.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:25 pm

Olthar wrote:
Planeia wrote:You can't put out a fire with more fire.

You can't save the planet from nuclear missiles by firing back with more nuclear missiles.

You can't fight discrimination with more discrimination.

Actually, a rather effective way to fight forest fires is to burn down sections with controlled fires.

Most anti-missile defenses are based around firing missiles at the missiles to blow them up in the air where they're harmless.

Funnily enough, typically nuclear missiles are used.
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Postby IshCong » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:25 pm

Olthar wrote:
Planeia wrote:You can't put out a fire with more fire.

You can't save the planet from nuclear missiles by firing back with more nuclear missiles.

You can't fight discrimination with more discrimination.

Actually, a rather effective way to fight forest fires is to burn down sections with controlled fires.

Most anti-missile defenses are based around firing missiles at the missiles to blow them up in the air where they're harmless.


Though, last I checked, those missiles aren't nuclear. Would be amusing if they were though...
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:25 pm

Planeia wrote:You can't put out a fire with more fire.


Yes, yes of course you can. We do it all the fucking time.

You can't save the planet from nuclear missiles by firing back with more nuclear missiles.


Actually using tactile nuclear weapons to disable fortified nuclear bunkers on the opposing side is not only a sound military strategy, but made up the bulk of the United States' cold war defense strategy against nuclear war. Our priority targets for nuclear warheads was always were their nuclear silos and launching points were, to disable the soviet capability for sustained nuclear exchanges.

So, yes, target nuclear strikes to disable further capabilities not only CAN save the planet, but was America's primary strategy if the cold war went hot

You can't fight discrimination with more discrimination.


You're already 0 for 2, I'm not sure why I should put much faith in this one.
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Postby Zottistan » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:25 pm

The owner should have every right to decide what goes on inside his or her premises, as long as nothing is being done to anybody without consent.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:25 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:That phrase irks me. Not because I don't agree with it but because I think there are better ways to shoot down an argument.


As a statement standing by itself it has as much relevance as it is relevant to the topic at hand. That said, there's a difference between stating a term, and discussing what said term means as a broader socio-political concept.

But once again, maybe I'm expecting a tad much from the crowd.


My contention is when the phrase becomes a shouting match during a debate. As in, use it, sure, but perhaps instead of letting it stand alone, an explanation following it would be good too.

I understand the meaning behind it and it's relevance, what I don't like is when it becomes the sole answer in a shouting match.
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Postby VonHyden » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:26 pm

It's totally discriminatory, but I'll never go in one so I don't really care.

Also, while reading the article, I couldn't help but notice there were Latino, Black, and Gay Voices, but no White Voices... Why is this?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:27 pm

IshCong wrote:
Olthar wrote:Actually, a rather effective way to fight forest fires is to burn down sections with controlled fires.

Most anti-missile defenses are based around firing missiles at the missiles to blow them up in the air where they're harmless.


Though, last I checked, those missiles aren't nuclear. Would be amusing if they were though...

Oh, yes they are.

Look up Enhanced Radiation Warheads.
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:27 pm

St George wrote:Oh woo is me i'm a straight and i'm soooo persecuted.

yeah, come back when you face some actual discrimination for being straight.


This is not an actual argument.

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Postby Planeia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:27 pm

Olthar wrote:
Planeia wrote:You can't put out a fire with more fire.

You can't save the planet from nuclear missiles by firing back with more nuclear missiles.

You can't fight discrimination with more discrimination.

Actually, a rather effective way to fight forest fires is to burn down sections with controlled fires.

Uncontrolled fires.
Most anti-missile defenses are based around firing missiles at the missiles to blow them up in the air where they're harmless.

Nuclear missiles.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:28 pm

Planeia wrote:
Olthar wrote:Actually, a rather effective way to fight forest fires is to burn down sections with controlled fires.

Uncontrolled fires.
Most anti-missile defenses are based around firing missiles at the missiles to blow them up in the air where they're harmless.

Nuclear missiles.

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Postby Choronzon » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:28 pm

Gay people don't want straight people taking over their hangouts and treating it like some kind of neat little novelty.

Somehow I am not outraged at all.

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Postby Galloism » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Planeia wrote:Uncontrolled fires.

Nuclear missiles.

Check your privilege.

Says the man one heartbeat away from having control over a huge nuclear arsenal.
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Choronzon wrote:Gay people don't want straight people taking over their hangouts and treating it like some kind of neat little novelty.

Somehow I am not outraged at all.


fascist.


.....how much do you want to bet I'm going to get warned for calling you a fascist?
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Choronzon wrote:Gay people don't want straight people taking over their hangouts and treating it like some kind of neat little novelty.

Somehow I am not outraged at all.

I'm very tempted to say "check your privilege", but it's getting stale.
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Postby Choronzon » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Gay people don't want straight people taking over their hangouts and treating it like some kind of neat little novelty.

Somehow I am not outraged at all.


fascist.


.....how much do you want to bet I'm going to get warned for calling you a fascist?

Edit it really quick and add an "lol jk" at the end.

Its foolproof.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Galloism wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Check your privilege.

Says the man one heartbeat away from having control over a huge nuclear arsenal.

I have checked the fuck out of my privilege. It is awesome.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:30 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Gay people don't want straight people taking over their hangouts and treating it like some kind of neat little novelty.

Somehow I am not outraged at all.

I'm very tempted to say "check your privilege", but it's getting stale.


And we're running out of spices.
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:31 pm

Choronzon wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
fascist.


.....how much do you want to bet I'm going to get warned for calling you a fascist?

Edit it really quick and add an "lol jk" at the end.

Its foolproof.


It's like the konami code for trolling. Doesn't make you invincible necessarily, but it makes the game a whole lot easier.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:31 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I'm very tempted to say "check your privilege", but it's getting stale.


And we're running out of spices.

There are always spices. There are many third-world countries to ransack. They got crazy spices.
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Postby Planeia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:31 pm

Myrensis wrote:
St George wrote:Oh woo is me i'm a straight and i'm soooo persecuted.

yeah, come back when you face some actual discrimination for being straight.


This is not an actual argument.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:31 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Edit it really quick and add an "lol jk" at the end.

Its foolproof.


It's like the konami code for trolling. Doesn't make you invincible necessarily, but it makes the game a whole lot easier.

Up up down down left right left right A B A B lol jk
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:31 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
And we're running out of spices.

There are always spices. There are many third-world countries to ransack. They got crazy spices.


You control the NSA, I knew it.
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Postby IshCong » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:32 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
IshCong wrote:
Though, last I checked, those missiles aren't nuclear. Would be amusing if they were though...

Oh, yes they are.

Look up Enhanced Radiation Warheads.


I'm aware of Safeguard. My understanding was that currently more recent systems are used, like kinetic vehicles.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:32 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:There are always spices. There are many third-world countries to ransack. They got crazy spices.


You control the NSA, I knew it.

I'm essentially propping up the US, and therefore the world, Government. You're welcome.
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