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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:40 pm

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I haven't been to the gay FEMA reformation camp yet. I trust you have a black helicopter for transportation.

What, aren't white helicopters good enough, negropressor?


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Ifreann wrote:intolerance is shit bars.

Just got a name for my bar.

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Galloism wrote:Just got a name for my bar.


I've always wanted to name one "The Stagger Home"

Assuming I get rich eventually, my bar will be called The Brig. People will get locked in there.

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Postby Norstal » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:41 pm

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Planeia wrote:I believe that gay bars should be banned. Let me rephrase that before a dimwitted person mistakes it for a statement of bigotry. Establishments meant exclusively for sexual orientation should be banned, that includes straight. They make all the campaigning of LGBT rights useless. Places like that should be for having fun anyway, if you're lucky enough to get lucky, good, but if you don't, whatever. Yes establishments can keep sexual orientation directed themes and what not to attract a certain crowd, but if the unwanted crowd ends up coming, it shouldn't matter.

Hopefully that would clear things up.

Where's a safe place for gays to mingle then?
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:41 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I haven't been to the gay FEMA reformation camp yet. I trust you have a black helicopter for transportation.

What, aren't white helicopters good enough, negropressor?


Galloism wrote:Just got a name for my bar.

You owe me at least one night of free drinks.


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I've always wanted to name one "The Stagger Home"

Assuming I get rich eventually, my bar will be called The Brig. People will get locked in there.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:41 pm

Norstal wrote:
Planeia wrote:Hopefully that would clear things up.

Where's a safe place for gays to mingle then?

E! and Bravo.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:42 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Carry on.


I do feel a need to clarify one bit, so allow me to indulge. I want to address this "neo art doesn't think it's discrimination when done against straight people".

It most certainly is. Or, to be more precise, it's discrimination against conduct that disparately impacts straight people. This...rabid and unrelenting attempt to try and pin me down, screaming "SAY IT! SAY IT'S DISCRIMINATION! SAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT" that certain company has engaged in here seems to be based primarily on the same limited and fundamentally childish thinking I alluded to earlier, this myopic, uneducated, unintelligent, and fundamentally stupid idea that they've latched on to, with all the trifling intellectual might that they're capable of mustering, that "discrimination = bad!" and have thus attempted to try and "trap" me into "admitting" that it's discrimination, thus *cough* forcing me into doing a 180 on my belief system because, to these towering monuments of intellectual vapidity "discrimination = bad" and "this = discrimination" and therefore, displaying all the grand thinking of a kindergarten math class, "this = bad"

And when I come along and state, actually, I don't find it that bad, the ENTIRE effort has now swung, with singleminded (because we seem incapable of more) fury, to try and make me admit "this=discrimination" and thus force me to conclude "this = bad" just as they, demonstrating the faculties that make them suited to push shopping carts at walmart, have concluded is the natural and probable result.

And therefore, they have been stymied, utterly stuck, and completely incapable of moving on from the fact that while I freely admit this is a discriminatory act, it's one I'm just not all that bothered by.

Because, once again "discrimination = bad!" is how children think. And I'm not a child.


I have nothing against you or your way of thinking. I have no reason to believe you are incapable of seeing a wrong doing when its happening. I think you're a reasonable individual, and I don't have a mission to make accept things you obviously already understand, as evidenced.

All I wish to clarify is that my statement was regarding this case in particular. If that wasn't clear, my bad.
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:43 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
I do feel a need to clarify one bit, so allow me to indulge. I want to address this "neo art doesn't think it's discrimination when done against straight people".

It most certainly is. Or, to be more precise, it's discrimination against conduct that disparately impacts straight people. This...rabid and unrelenting attempt to try and pin me down, screaming "SAY IT! SAY IT'S DISCRIMINATION! SAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT" that certain company has engaged in here seems to be based primarily on the same limited and fundamentally childish thinking I alluded to earlier, this myopic, uneducated, unintelligent, and fundamentally stupid idea that they've latched on to, with all the trifling intellectual might that they're capable of mustering, that "discrimination = bad!" and have thus attempted to try and "trap" me into "admitting" that it's discrimination, thus *cough* forcing me into doing a 180 on my belief system because, to these towering monuments of intellectual vapidity "discrimination = bad" and "this = discrimination" and therefore, displaying all the grand thinking of a kindergarten math class, "this = bad"

And when I come along and state, actually, I don't find it that bad, the ENTIRE effort has now swung, with singleminded (because we seem incapable of more) fury, to try and make me admit "this=discrimination" and thus force me to conclude "this = bad" just as they, demonstrating the faculties that make them suited to push shopping carts at walmart, have concluded is the natural and probable result.

And therefore, they have been stymied, utterly stuck, and completely incapable of moving on from the fact that while I freely admit this is a discriminatory act, it's one I'm just not all that bothered by.

Because, once again "discrimination = bad!" is how children think. And I'm not a child.

BUT MY S00PER CONSISTENT LIBERTARIAN VIEWS THEIR SO CONSISTENT AND I THINK THAT EVERYONE IS COMPLETELY EQUAL REGARDLESS OF NUANCES AND SENSE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE AND THERE ARE NO SHADES OF GRAY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:43 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I have nothing against you or your way of thinking. I have no reason to believe you are incapable of seeing a wrong doing when its happening. I think you're a reasonable individual, and I don't have a mission to make accept things you obviously already understand, as evidenced.

All I wish to clarify is that my statement was regarding this case in particular. If that wasn't clear, my bad.


Ah, nah, that wasn't really directed at you per se, more the flow of that particular conversation.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:43 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:BUT MY S00PER CONSISTENT LIBERTARIAN VIEWS THEIR SO CONSISTENT AND I THINK THAT EVERYONE IS COMPLETELY EQUAL REGARDLESS OF NUANCES AND SENSE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE AND THERE ARE NO SHADES OF GRAY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Joe, I'm going to marry you one day.

And then we'll adopt a young child, and get federal tax breaks for it. Because we can do that now.

We'll need a woman in the marriage too, so that we don't discriminate. And she needs to be Inuit.
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:44 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Joe, I'm going to marry you one day.

And then we'll adopt a young child, and get federal tax breaks for it. Because we can do that now.

We'll need a woman in the marriage too, so that we don't discriminate. And she needs to be Inuit.


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:44 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I have nothing against you or your way of thinking. I have no reason to believe you are incapable of seeing a wrong doing when its happening. I think you're a reasonable individual, and I don't have a mission to make accept things you obviously already understand, as evidenced.

All I wish to clarify is that my statement was regarding this case in particular. If that wasn't clear, my bad.


Ah, nah, that wasn't really directed at you per se, more the flow of that particular conversation.


Just making sure.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:45 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:We'll need a woman in the marriage too, so that we don't discriminate. And she needs to be Inuit.


It's a shame Neesika got DOSed, she was our token indian for a bit.

As in India or American?
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:45 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Ah, nah, that wasn't really directed at you per se, more the flow of that particular conversation.


Just making sure.


Frankly, I piggybacked off your quote because it was the only way I could see the quote that I was actually responding to. But mods don't like it when you say that sorta thing.
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:45 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
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It's a shame Neesika got DOSed, she was our token indian for a bit.

As in India or American?


Canadian, actually.

Nightkill is our token Indian from India.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:47 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Carry on.


I do feel a need to clarify one bit, so allow me to indulge. I want to address this "neo art doesn't think it's discrimination when done against straight people".

It most certainly is. Or, to be more precise, it's discrimination against conduct that disparately impacts straight people. This...rabid and unrelenting attempt to try and pin me down, screaming "SAY IT! SAY IT'S DISCRIMINATION! SAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT" that certain company has engaged in here seems to be based primarily on the same limited and fundamentally childish thinking I alluded to earlier, this myopic, uneducated, unintelligent, and fundamentally stupid idea that they've latched on to, with all the trifling intellectual might that they're capable of mustering, that "discrimination = bad!" and have thus attempted to try and "trap" me into "admitting" that it's discrimination, thus *cough* forcing me into doing a 180 on my belief system because, to these towering monuments of intellectual vapidity "discrimination = bad" and "this = discrimination" and therefore, displaying all the grand thinking of a kindergarten math class, "this = bad"

And when I come along and state, actually, I don't find it that bad, the ENTIRE effort has now swung, with singleminded (because we seem incapable of more) fury, to try and make me admit "this=discrimination" and thus force me to conclude "this = bad" just as they, demonstrating the faculties that make them suited to push shopping carts at walmart, have concluded is the natural and probable result.

And therefore, they have been stymied, utterly stuck, and completely incapable of moving on from the fact that while I freely admit this is a discriminatory act, it's one I'm just not all that bothered by.

Because, once again "discrimination = bad!" is how children think. And I'm not a child.


You really had to go ahead and make another one of your long posts, didn't you?

I mean yes, you are right, discrimination many times is necessary. In this case though I tend to see the policy as stupid, not so much discriminatory because all they are doing is driving away customers (and revenue much needed for the business).
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:47 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:As in India or American?


Canadian, actually.

Nightkill is our token Indian from India.

Crazy minorities being called the same thing. Who thought that up? Definitely not a white person, I'll tell you.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:48 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Just making sure.


Frankly, I piggybacked off your quote because it was the only way I could see the quote that I was actually responding to. But mods don't like it when you say that sorta thing.


No harm done, man. I just wondered, that's all.

On topic, I've ever seen a gay bar that I frequented engage in discrimination like the one mentioned in the OP.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:48 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Canadian, actually.

Nightkill is our token Indian from India.

Crazy minorities being called the same thing. Who thought that up? Definitely not a white person, I'll tell you.

Crazy white guy named Chris.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:48 pm

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Frisivisia wrote:As in India or American?


Canadian, actually.

Nightkill is our token Indian from India.

Would you like some curry?
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Canadian, actually.

Nightkill is our token Indian from India.

Would you like some curry?

Oh god. If you say his name, he appears! Nightkill is Bloody Mary! :shock:
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:49 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Canadian, actually.

Nightkill is our token Indian from India.

Crazy minorities being called the same thing. Who thought that up? Definitely not a white person, I'll tell you.

It was a proto-Mexican.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:49 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Would you like some curry?

Oh god. If you say his name, he appears! Nightkill is Bloody Mary! :shock:


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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:49 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
I do feel a need to clarify one bit, so allow me to indulge. I want to address this "neo art doesn't think it's discrimination when done against straight people".

It most certainly is. Or, to be more precise, it's discrimination against conduct that disparately impacts straight people. This...rabid and unrelenting attempt to try and pin me down, screaming "SAY IT! SAY IT'S DISCRIMINATION! SAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT" that certain company has engaged in here seems to be based primarily on the same limited and fundamentally childish thinking I alluded to earlier, this myopic, uneducated, unintelligent, and fundamentally stupid idea that they've latched on to, with all the trifling intellectual might that they're capable of mustering, that "discrimination = bad!" and have thus attempted to try and "trap" me into "admitting" that it's discrimination, thus *cough* forcing me into doing a 180 on my belief system because, to these towering monuments of intellectual vapidity "discrimination = bad" and "this = discrimination" and therefore, displaying all the grand thinking of a kindergarten math class, "this = bad"

And when I come along and state, actually, I don't find it that bad, the ENTIRE effort has now swung, with singleminded (because we seem incapable of more) fury, to try and make me admit "this=discrimination" and thus force me to conclude "this = bad" just as they, demonstrating the faculties that make them suited to push shopping carts at walmart, have concluded is the natural and probable result.

And therefore, they have been stymied, utterly stuck, and completely incapable of moving on from the fact that while I freely admit this is a discriminatory act, it's one I'm just not all that bothered by.

Because, once again "discrimination = bad!" is how children think. And I'm not a child.


You really had to go ahead and make another one of your long posts, didn't you?

I mean yes, you are right, discrimination many times is necessary. In this case though I tend to see the policy as stupid, not so much discriminatory because all they are doing is driving away customers (and revenue much needed for the business).

When Neo makes a longpost (one word, I just invented it), you've already lost. It's like when the kung fu guy punches the baddie a bunch of times and then he just falls apart, only with your argument.
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Postby Blakullar » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:50 pm

Oh my word.

A bar bans heterosexual couples from kissing and it makes the news.

Something tells me not a lot of interesting things have been showing up in the Huffington Post recently.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:50 pm

Olthar wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Would you like some curry?

Oh god. If you say his name, he appears! Nightkill is Bloody Mary! :shock:

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Postby Gulf Empire » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:50 pm

The Gulf Empire has a ZERO tolerance level for people of homosexual orientation. If you were caught, by police or bystanders, kissing another man on the lips or having anal sex (this goes the same for lesbians as well), you would be immediatly arrested and either shot on the spot or hauled off to a death/concentration camp (the first of the two options is much more merciful than the second). Therefore, most gays keep their gayness a secret and it is illegal to get married or own gay bars. Also gay sympathizers, people who help support or like gays, are also prosecuted. The Gays are to Imperialists like the jews were to the Nazis or like Christians were to Communists.
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