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Condunum
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:47 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Condunum wrote:Deflection:




You made a claim by doing what you thought was pointing out the obvious. You have yet to back this claim.


It's really not my problem that you can't do things for yourself.

It's not my claim, it's yours. Sorry that you can't complete a simple task.

Really at this point, you're just add ad homs to the discussion instead of trying to debunk my claim. Therefore, by your "logic," you concede.

What ad homs?

And I have no claim. I have a counter-claim, which is that you need to prove what you've said.
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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:47 pm

Condunum wrote:Here's rhetoric instead of actually doing what you're supposed to in a debate. Sucks when your posts bite you in the ass, huh?

Premislyd wrote:
It's really not my fault that he picked the two most biased sources out there.

Premislyd wrote:
It really does matter. It's really not that hard picking out an unbiased source.


Sucks when you feel the need to edit posts because you can't think of anything useful to prove your point.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:48 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Condunum wrote:Here's rhetoric instead of actually doing what you're supposed to in a debate. Sucks when your posts bite you in the ass, huh?




Sucks when you feel the need to edit posts because you can't think of anything useful to prove your point.

I didn't. Those are raw. In fact, if you click on the 'wrote' part, it will bring you back to the posts, looking exactly like that.

Unless, of course, you hate so little integrity that you go back and edit them.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:49 pm

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EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:49 pm

Condunum wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
It's really not my problem that you can't do things for yourself.

It's not my claim, it's yours. Sorry that you can't complete a simple task.

Really at this point, you're just add ad homs to the discussion instead of trying to debunk my claim. Therefore, by your "logic," you concede.

What ad homs?

And I have no claim. I have a counter-claim, which is that you need to prove what you've said.


Your claim is that my "claim" that the source is biased is false, which you have yet to point out is actually true because you haven't posted anything proving it.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Premislyd wrote:
So you have nothing to refute my claim.


Premislyd wrote:I didn't make any sort of claim, I was just pointing out the obvious.

*Sigh*

Summer...
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Premislyd wrote:

I didn't make any sort of claim, I was just pointing out the obvious.

*Sigh*

Summer...


*Sigh*

When people try to post witty comments because they can't debate...
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Condunum wrote:It's not my claim, it's yours. Sorry that you can't complete a simple task.


What ad homs?

And I have no claim. I have a counter-claim, which is that you need to prove what you've said.


Your claim is that my "claim" that the source is biased is false, which you have yet to point out is actually true because you haven't posted anything proving it.

That's because I don't have to. When someone calls you out on your claims, you have to prove it. It's up to the believer, not the skeptic, to prove themselves.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Gravlen wrote:*Sigh*

Summer...


*Sigh*

When people try to post witty comments because they can't debate...

You mean.... Like the rhetoric you've been posting?
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:51 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Liar.


So we've resorted to petty name calling instead of actually trying to refute my claim. How cute.

What, the claim you never made?
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:52 pm

Condunum wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Sucks when you feel the need to edit posts because you can't think of anything useful to prove your point.

I didn't. Those are raw. In fact, if you click on the 'wrote' part, it will bring you back to the posts, looking exactly like that.

Unless, of course, you hate so little integrity that you go back and edit them.


I don't hate integrity at all. Please point out where I said I do.

Condunum wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Your claim is that my "claim" that the source is biased is false, which you have yet to point out is actually true because you haven't posted anything proving it.

That's because I don't have to. When someone calls you out on your claims, you have to prove it. It's up to the believer, not the skeptic, to prove themselves.


I'm sorry, but that's not how it works, bud. If you had any experience in debating you would know that this is false.
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Pimps Inc wrote:Swastikas are not allowed in nationstates unless your are RPing as Nazi Germany or sumthing

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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:52 pm

TL;DR for the last few pages, Premislyd concedes claim because he cannot support claim, tries to shift burden of proof onto skeptic, gets called out for it.
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Postby The Realm of God » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:53 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Condunum wrote:Almost every source on the entire internet is biased. Bias is not an inherent bad. You have to show how it's bias skews the evidence. So do that.


Bias is inherently bad.

Again, thank you for contributing nothing to the conversation but rather just keep repeating: "I'm incapable of doing something myself, so you do it for me"


Bias is not bad....at all. You can't have anything unbiased, they tell you to write non-biased stuff in primary school to stop you writing opinions but because of the way people receive factual information is subjective as the quality of our senses is varied and all information is filtered through a brain full of experience and opinion. This means that all essays, posts, books even fecking video games are biased. You have to understand what the authors bias is, after that your golden.

Go and take an epistemology class......and actually take political science while your at it.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:53 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Gravlen wrote:*Sigh*

Summer...


*Sigh*

When people try to post witty comments because they can't debate...

Well, you haven't even posted a witty comment, so...
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:53 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Condunum wrote:I didn't. Those are raw. In fact, if you click on the 'wrote' part, it will bring you back to the posts, looking exactly like that.

Unless, of course, you hate so little integrity that you go back and edit them.


I don't hate integrity at all. Please point out where I said I do.

A minor typo. Hate should be have. Read again with that in mind.

Condunum wrote:That's because I don't have to. When someone calls you out on your claims, you have to prove it. It's up to the believer, not the skeptic, to prove themselves.


I'm sorry, but that's not how it works, bud. If you had any experience in debating you would know that this is false.

Go ahead and tell me how it works. I'm certain you're wrong.
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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:54 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
So we've resorted to petty name calling instead of actually trying to refute my claim. How cute.

What, the claim you never made?


You're the one saying I have a "claim". Not me.

Condunum wrote:TL;DR for the last few pages, Premislyd concedes claim because he cannot support claim, tries to shift burden of proof onto skeptic, gets called out for it.


Actually it's more like you guys can't bring up valid points. But hey, whatever makes your e-peen larger.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:54 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Gravlen wrote:What, the claim you never made?


You're the one saying I have a "claim". Not me.

Condunum wrote:TL;DR for the last few pages, Premislyd concedes claim because he cannot support claim, tries to shift burden of proof onto skeptic, gets called out for it.


Actually it's more like you guys can't bring up valid points. But hey, whatever makes your e-peen larger.

Well, it's not like you have any ability to back your claims. They brought up valid facts, you claimed they were biased and refused to show how.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:54 pm

Condunum wrote:TL;DR for the last few pages, Premislyd concedes claim because he cannot support claim, tries to shift burden of proof onto skeptic, gets called out for it.

A good rule is to not feed into the threadjacker...
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:55 pm

Condunum wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
You're the one saying I have a "claim". Not me.



Actually it's more like you guys can't bring up valid points. But hey, whatever makes your e-peen larger.

Well, it's not like you have any ability to back your claims. They brought up valid facts, you claimed they were biased and refused to show how.


If you actually bothered to read the thread, you would see that this is false.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:56 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Condunum wrote:TL;DR for the last few pages, Premislyd concedes claim because he cannot support claim, tries to shift burden of proof onto skeptic, gets called out for it.

A good rule is to not feed into the threadjacker...

Which I have done for the past few pages.

Since he can do nothing but repeat the same thing over again, I'll just leave knowing he was wrong. Because really, that's the truth. :)
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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:57 pm

Condunum wrote:
Gravlen wrote:A good rule is to not feed into the threadjacker...

Which I have done for the past few pages.

Since he can do nothing but repeat the same thing over again, I'll just leave knowing he was wrong. Because really, that's the truth. :)


The thread is a tad larger then "the past few pages," bud. But hey, if you feel the need to keep telling yourself you're right because you can't make any valid points, then by all means, go ahead.
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Pimps Inc wrote:Swastikas are not allowed in nationstates unless your are RPing as Nazi Germany or sumthing

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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:58 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Condunum wrote:Which I have done for the past few pages.

Since he can do nothing but repeat the same thing over again, I'll just leave knowing he was wrong. Because really, that's the truth. :)


The thread is a tad larger then "the past few pages," bud. But hey, if you feel the need to keep telling yourself you're right because you can't make any valid points, then by all means, go ahead.

Cute :)
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:58 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Gravlen wrote:What, the claim you never made?


You're the one saying I have a "claim". Not me.

Premislyd wrote:So you have nothing to refute my claim.

Liar.

Condunum wrote:
Gravlen wrote:A good rule is to not feed into the threadjacker...

Which I have done for the past few pages.

Since he can do nothing but repeat the same thing over again, I'll just leave knowing he was wrong. Because really, that's the truth. :)

Yeah, I'll follow your example. It's not worth the aggravation
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Premislyd » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:00 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
You're the one saying I have a "claim". Not me.

Premislyd wrote:So you have nothing to refute my claim.

Liar.


Glad to see you've stooped to Condom's level and edit my posts while you're quoting them.

Glad to see that even the best General has to offer can't even debunk an II veteran's claim.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
Liar.


Glad to see you've stooped to Condom's level and edit my posts while you're quoting them.

The funny thing is, I never edited them.
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