NYT: Jeep Cherokee, culturally insenstive??

[L Ron Cupboard]

The Dodge Swinger, now that was a great car name.

Dont worry its coming.

It already happened in the early 1970s. I wonder what the key fob you got with it looked like.

[Temujinn]

Dont worry its coming.

It already happened in the early 1970s. I wonder what the key fob you got with it looked like.

You dont know the song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYue6eZmlU

[L Ron Cupboard]

It already happened in the early 1970s. I wonder what the key fob you got with it looked like.

You dont know the song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYue6eZmlU

lol no I have not come across that before.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

Are you seriously that clueless?

do you know where the word jeep came from?
how about durango?
car manufacturers have been naming them after anything they think sounds even remotely positive.
often without even checking to see what the word even means.

Other jeep brands
jeep honcho
jeep gladiator
jeep cowboy
jeep patriot
jeep kaiser
jeep pioneer
jeep golden eagle
jeep wagoner

It however would have been funnier if it had been Pontiac that used that name.

"Ranger" isn't an ethnic group, "Cherokee" is.
Your argument here seems to be that since car companies have a history of cultural insensitivity, it's okay for them to be culturally insensitive.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

Regardless of whether or not this is "culturally insensitive" (which, I suppose not thinking about what other people think kind of is), there's still no reason why we should actually give a shit how the Cherokee feel about their name being used by someone else. If they really care, they can copyright it.

Check your privilege.

[Phocidaea]

Regardless of whether or not this is "culturally insensitive" (which, I suppose not thinking about what other people think kind of is), there's still no reason why we should actually give a shit how the Cherokee feel about their name being used by someone else. If they really care, they can copyright it.

Check your privilege.

... did... did... did you actually just use that phrase in a serious context, with the actual intent of getting a "privileged" person to feel bad about themselves?

Well, looks like Tumblr is the new Cicero.

[Frisivisia]

Regardless of whether or not this is "culturally insensitive" (which, I suppose not thinking about what other people think kind of is), there's still no reason why we should actually give a shit how the Cherokee feel about their name being used by someone else. If they really care, they can copyright it.

Check your privilege.

You should form a rap group, then you could write a song, "Straight Outta Tumblr".

[Frisivisia]

Check your privilege.

... did... did... did you actually just use that phrase in a serious context, with the actual intent of getting a "privileged" person to feel bad about themselves?

Check your priveledge, white cisgender straight male asshole sexist pig.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

Check your privilege.

... did... did... did you actually just use that phrase in a serious context, with the actual intent of getting a "privileged" person to feel bad about themselves?.

Oui, though I know it won't.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Regardless of whether or not this is "culturally insensitive" (which, I suppose not thinking about what other people think kind of is), there's still no reason why we should actually give a shit how the Cherokee feel about their name being used by someone else. If they really care, they can copyright it.

Check your privilege.

The words I would give you for having said this are unfortunately not worth yet another ban.

[Angleter]

At least it's not as bad as the poor Qashqai, who were so obscure before the co-option by the automotive industry that they're now completely and irrevocably associated with a Nissan.

[Mushet]

Check your privilege.

... did... did... did you actually just use that phrase in a serious context, with the actual intent of getting a "privileged" person to feel bad about themselves?

Well, looks like Tumblr is the new Cicero.

Check your privilege.

The words I would give you for having said this are unfortunately not worth yet another ban.

Oh no, god forbid somebody reminds you of the privileges you have, what's so wrong with being told to check your privilege that it deserves a hostile response?

[Geilinor]

How is naming a car after a tribe culturally insensitive? They may be poor, but they have cars too. Is this a "It's insensitive to name cars after people who probably can't afford them!!" rant?

[Frisivisia]

... did... did... did you actually just use that phrase in a serious context, with the actual intent of getting a "privileged" person to feel bad about themselves?

Well, looks like Tumblr is the new Cicero.

The words I would give you for having said this are unfortunately not worth yet another ban.

Oh no, god forbid somebody reminds you of the privileges you have, what's so wrong with being told to check your privilege that it deserves a hostile response?

Check your privilege, bro.

[Geilinor]

Well, here’s some: “We are really opposed to stereotypes,” said Amanda Clinton, a spokeswoman for the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma.

It's a car, people. Calm down.

[Geilinor]

At least it's not as bad as the poor Qashqai, who were so obscure before the co-option by the automotive industry that they're now completely and irrevocably associated with a Nissan.

At least some people will look up what the name means.

[Geilinor]

Regardless of whether or not this is "culturally insensitive" (which, I suppose not thinking about what other people think kind of is), there's still no reason why we should actually give a shit how the Cherokee feel about their name being used by someone else. If they really care, they can copyright it.

Check your privilege.

There's no privilege involved. As far as I know, no country, nation, or ethnicity as copyrighted their name. American isn't copyrighted.

[Warda]

And the three top contenders for tribal warrior cultures have been taken already; Apache, Comanche, and the Huron.

Cheyenne.

Blackfoot, Sioux, Seminoles, you guys need to watch some cowboy movies.

[Greed and Death]

Cherokee is the English name. Tsalagi is the transliteration of the Cherokee language name "ᏣᎳᎩ".
English has this habit that when a transliteration for a proper noun would be very difficult to impossible for a reader to pronouce just looking at it of adopting a name that is only tangentially related to the original.

It's not just English that does it, but yeah. Do you object to the use of Cherokee over Tsalagi?

Nope, and the official English name is Cherokee nation not Tsalagi nation.
See http://www.cherokee.org/

[Bodobol]

As a part Cherokee, I'm not offended at all by this.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

... did... did... did you actually just use that phrase in a serious context, with the actual intent of getting a "privileged" person to feel bad about themselves?

Well, looks like Tumblr is the new Cicero.

The words I would give you for having said this are unfortunately not worth yet another ban.

Oh no, god forbid somebody reminds you of the privileges you have, what's so wrong with being told to check your privilege that it deserves a hostile response?

Because then they might have to face the reality.

How is naming a car after a tribe culturally insensitive? They may be poor, but they have cars too. Is this a "It's insensitive to name cars after people who probably can't afford them!!" rant?

Use of an ethnic groups name with out the group's permission. How are you not not getting that?

Check your privilege.

There's no privilege involved. As far as I know, no country, nation, or ethnicity as copyrighted their name. American isn't copyrighted.

You're Caucasian, aren't you?

[Geilinor]

Oh no, god forbid somebody reminds you of the privileges you have, what's so wrong with being told to check your privilege that it deserves a hostile response?

Because then they might have to face the reality.

How is naming a car after a tribe culturally insensitive? They may be poor, but they have cars too. Is this a "It's insensitive to name cars after people who probably can't afford them!!" rant?

Use of an ethnic groups name with out the group's permission. How are you not not getting that?

There's no privilege involved. As far as I know, no country, nation, or ethnicity as copyrighted their name. American isn't copyrighted.

You're Caucasian, aren't you?

1. The context of the use isn't offensive. They are not using the name to mock or offend the Cherokee tribe. If it was being used that way, it would be insensitivity.
2. No, I'm Asian American(Indian-American to be exact). You don't hesitate to call people racist, do you?

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

As a part Cherokee, I'm not offended at all by this.

That isn't the question being asked.
The question asked was is it culturally insensitive, not is it offensive.

You say you're part Cherokee... Were you raised in the culture?

[Geilinor]

As a part Cherokee, I'm not offended at all by this.

That isn't the question being asked.
The question asked was is it culturally insensitive, not is it offensive.

You say you're part Cherokee... Were you raised in the culture?

He doesn't think it's insensitive to his culture.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

1. The context of the use isn't offensive. They are not using the name to mock or offend the Cherokee tribe. If it was being used that way, it would be insensitivity.
2. No, I'm Asian American(Indian-American to be exact). You don't hesitate to call people racist, do you?

1: Culturally insensitive =/= offensive.
2: No, I don't hesitate to call people who say/do racist things as being racist.