SCOTUS SSM rulings: DOMA overturned, Prop 8 gone

[Vazdania]

Cali did it, and Illinois might probably the next though...

Only if the Illinois State Senate calls for vote on that matter...

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

Thank G-d I live in Idaho.

[Choronzon]

Because he just wants attention, and everyone around here seems more than happy to give it to him.

Y'know, I really wish we'd get better at not doing that. We force ourselves to go through this shit.

My enjoyment of this place has increased exponentially now that I actually use my ignore function.

[Divair]

progress is subjective. It's really a sad day to see DOMA go.

No, progress is determined by what advances the wellbeing of sentient beings. The death of DOMA absolutely accomplished this.

un-fucking-fortunately it is inevitable.

Other people being happy together in consenting relationships. It's a truly terrifying notion.

Stop.

[Agritum]

Why are you so butthurt about people getting rights they deserve as human beings?

Because it gets him attention on NSG.

People, stop replying to him.

'kay.

[Divair]

Y'know, I really wish we'd get better at not doing that. We force ourselves to go through this shit.

My enjoyment of this place has increased exponentially now that I actually use my ignore function.

I've started using it more. Makes things a lot more manageable, but people still quote the people I'm trying to ignore.

[Zokorias personal views]

Cali did it, and Illinois might probably the next though...

Only if the Illinois State Senate calls for vote on that matter...

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

Washington state already has gay marriage, since Ref 74 was passed last year.

Oregon might probably legalize gay marriage next year through a ballot measure, I guess...

[Vazdania]

Y'know, I really wish we'd get better at not doing that. We force ourselves to go through this shit.

It's masochism, basically.

I feel the same way sometimes.

[Threlizdun]

That's not what Loving v Virginia said.

Educate me.

Loving v Virginia struck down laws prohibitting interacial marriages in any state

[Herador]

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

All of New England has legalized Gay Marriage, actually. And so has Washington.

Well shit, don't I look silly?

[Phocidaea]

progress is subjective. It's really a sad day to see DOMA go.

No, progress is determined by what advances the wellbeing of sentient beings. The death of DOMA absolutely accomplished this.

What is your flag, by the way? Are you going Prince on us and identifying yourself as a contrived symbol because your friends copyrighted "Threlizdun", is it supposed to express membership in and/or solidarity with one or more dubious sexual orientations/gender identities, or am I just making rude stereotypes of the typical applications of those sorts of symbols?

[Northern Dominus]

Cali did it, and Illinois might probably the next though...

Only if the Illinois State Senate calls for vote on that matter...

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

Actually the only thing holding Illinois back from legilsating marriage equality is a cadre of loudmouth bigoted assholes from downstate that their equally bigoted asshole constituency keeps voting into office.

So really the solution isn't to try and get it around that cardre, it's to cut the worthless southern counties off and give them to other states which would be happy to welcome bigoted loudmouth assholes like Indiana or Missouri or Kentucky... after offering amnesty for people who don't want to live in those states and understand that marriage is a fundamental human right.

[Divair]

All of New England has legalized Gay Marriage, actually. And so has Washington.

Well shit, don't I look silly?

So you know for the future, it's legal in:

DC
California
Connecticut
Delaware
Iowa
Massachusetts
Maryland
Maine
Minnesota
New Hampshire
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington
And five tribal jurisdictions

[Nailed to the Perch]

Cali did it, and Illinois might probably the next though...

Only if the Illinois State Senate calls for vote on that matter...

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

There is a rather obvious reason why only one of the states on your list could possibly be the next to legalize gay marriage.

ETA: Dang, that was some thorough ninja-ing. This thread is moving fast!

[DogDoo 7]

That's not what Loving v Virginia said.

Educate me.

well, the states couldn't ban interracial marriage, no matter how "states-righty" it is

[Phocidaea]

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

All of New England has legalized Gay Marriage, actually. And so has Washington.

I've heard rumors about a petition to put a SSM-legalization proposal on the 2016 ballot here in Michigan. It has zero hope of passing*, but I guess they might as well try.

[Zokorias personal views]

Without Macklemore (you know, the guy behind Thrift Shop), Prop 8 and DOMA wouldn't be struck down...

His song for marriage equality is so inspiring...

[Norstal]

Well shit, don't I look silly?

So you know for the future, it's legal in:

DC
California
Connecticut
Delaware
Iowa
Massachusetts
Maryland
Maine
Minnesota
New Hampshire
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington
And five tribal jurisdictions

This is of course with the hope that the California circuit court won't overturn their decision on prop 8.

[Threlizdun]

What is your flag, by the way? Are you going Prince on us and identifying yourself as a contrived symbol because your friends copyrighted "Threlizdun", is it supposed to express membership in and/or solidarity with one or more dubious sexual orientations/gender identities, or am I just making rude stereotypes of the typical applications of those sorts of symbols?

It's one of the more common of the many unofficial pansexual pride flags.

[Libertarian California]

Meh. Not good enough.

This is a huge precedent, though, so that's good. And another state legalized. And federal government legalized.

If it's legalized on a federal level, doesn't that render state bans null and void?

[Herador]

DC
California
Connecticut
Delaware
Iowa
Massachusetts
Maryland
Maine
Minnesota
New Hampshire
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington
And five tribal jurisdictions

mmmmm, tasty, tasty equality.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

No, progress is determined by what advances the wellbeing of sentient beings. The death of DOMA absolutely accomplished this.

What is your flag, by the way? Are you going Prince on us and identifying yourself as a contrived symbol because your friends copyrighted "Threlizdun", is it supposed to express membership in and/or solidarity with one or more dubious sexual orientations/gender identities, or am I just making rude stereotypes of the typical applications of those sorts of symbols?

Pansexual pride flag.

Google has this wonderful function whereby you can search images by URL and come up with images of a similar sort, thereby identifying the original image.

[Hornesia]

"Your thoughts?"

Gay Marriage should be illegal.

Upon what reasoning?

Marriage is defined as a union between man and woman. I have no problems with civil unions or anything of that sort, I just don't like calling it marriage as it's incorrect under the actual definition (without it being changed for political reasons)

[Divair]

So you know for the future, it's legal in:

DC
California
Connecticut
Delaware
Iowa
Massachusetts
Maryland
Maine
Minnesota
New Hampshire
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington
And five tribal jurisdictions

This is of course with the hope that the California circuit court won't overturn their decision on prop 8.

They won't.

This is a huge precedent, though, so that's good. And another state legalized. And federal government legalized.

If it's legalized on a federal level, doesn't that render state bans null and void?

Unfortunately, no.

[Divair]

Marriage is defined as a union between man and woman.

Says who?

[Rhodesi]

Of course, there was no gay marriage in Greece. But it is a retrograde step in the sense that it marks a further dissolution of boundaries and markers, which leaves me trembling at the thought of the next moves back to Ancient Greece, a highly dissolute and immoral society.

Actually, ancient Greece (no, you don't capitalize "ancient" here) was not a thoroughly depraved moral black hole. It had its share of things that are considered bad today, and probably should be, but it wasn't just a big pit of people stuffing their faces, getting drunk, throwing orgies, and murdering each other. Believing in depictions of it as such a society seriously undermines your credibility.

True... true.