SCOTUS SSM rulings: DOMA overturned, Prop 8 gone

[Edlichbury]

An episode of a tv series?

Wow, quite elaborate reactions you have.



And you also know shit about history.

Of course, there was no gay marriage in Greece. But it is a retrograde step in the sense that it marks a further dissolution of boundaries and markers, which leaves me trembling at the thought of the next moves back to Ancient Greece, a highly dissolute and immoral society.

Yes, like how the end of slavery, institutionalized sexism, and feudalism have destroyed society and all morals.

[Libertarian California]

So is it legal yet?

Is what legal yet?

Gary marriage.

[Zokorias personal views]

YES. Now if my best friend marries in CA or in any other state where same sex marriage is legal AND resides there, he gets the same benefits. Also, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING CALIFORNIA BACK TO SANITY/EQUALITY.

Too bad section 2 of DOMA wasn't up for question though.

The people voted No to same Sex marriage.

Don't be such a little kid and get your facts straight.

LGBT equality is inevitable.

[Liriena]

An episode of a tv series?

Wow, quite elaborate reactions you have.



And you also know shit about history.

Of course, there was no gay marriage in Greece. But it is a retrograde step in the sense that it marks a further dissolution of boundaries and markers, which leaves me trembling at the thought of the next moves back to Ancient Greece, a highly dissolute and immoral society.

I repeat: Why is your History teacher so shitty?

[Divair]

Is what legal yet?

Gary marriage.

On a federal level? Yes.
In Cali? Yes.
In every other state that it is currently not legal in? No.

[DogDoo 7]

Is what legal yet?

Gary marriage.

No. We still can't marry meowing cartoon snails.

[Herador]

Because he just wants attention, and everyone around here seems more than happy to give it to him.

Y'know, I really wish we'd get better at not doing that. We force ourselves to go through this shit.

Forcing yourself to do these things is a pre-req of being an NSG'er.

[Individuality-ness]

YES. Now if my best friend marries in CA or in any other state where same sex marriage is legal AND resides there, he gets the same benefits. Also, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING CALIFORNIA BACK TO SANITY/EQUALITY.

Too bad section 2 of DOMA wasn't up for question though.

I don't know if section 2 will be subject to court review.
I figured best shoot was the ruled ruled the bill unseverable.

Judging from the court document I'm reading, it probably will never be up for review, since marriage itself is in the realm of the states.

[Threlizdun]

So is it legal yet?

If by it, you mean same-sex marriage, then it is still only legal in the states that have passed legislation legalizing it. The death of DOMA removes the federal restrictions on same-sex marriage that provided unfair treatment even for same-sex couples in states where their marriage was legal and also can easily be used to combat the bans in other states.

[Divair]

Y'know, I really wish we'd get better at not doing that. We force ourselves to go through this shit.

Forcing yourself to do these things is a pre-req of being an NSG'er.

Only because we make it one.

[Libertarian California]

Gary marriage.

On a federal level? Yes.
In Cali? Yes.
In every other state that it is currently not legal in? No.

Meh. Not good enough.

[Vazdania]

The people voted No to same Sex marriage.

Don't be such a little kid and get your facts straight.

LGBT equality is inevitable.

un-fucking-fortunately it is inevitable.

[DogDoo 7]

I don't know if section 2 will be subject to court review.
I figured best shoot was the ruled ruled the bill unseverable.

Judging from the court document I'm reading, it probably will never be up for review, since marriage itself is in the realm of the states.

That's not what Loving v Virginia said.

[Zokorias personal views]

Gary marriage.

On a federal level? Yes.
In Cali? Yes.
In every other state that it is currently not legal in? No.

Cali did it, and Illinois might probably the next though...

Only if the Illinois State Senate calls for vote on that matter...

[Phocidaea]

An episode of a tv series?

Wow, quite elaborate reactions you have.



And you also know shit about history.

Of course, there was no gay marriage in Greece. But it is a retrograde step in the sense that it marks a further dissolution of boundaries and markers, which leaves me trembling at the thought of the next moves back to Ancient Greece, a highly dissolute and immoral society.

Actually, ancient Greece (no, you don't capitalize "ancient" here) was not a thoroughly depraved moral black hole. It had its share of things that are considered bad today, and probably should be, but it wasn't just a big pit of people stuffing their faces, getting drunk, throwing orgies, and murdering each other. Believing in depictions of it as such a society seriously undermines your credibility.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Even people with reactionary views tend to understand that the term is not something to proud of. Blindly thrusting us into the past and seeking to undo any progress made is not in the slightest sense a respectable ideology.

progress is subjective. It's really a sad day to see DOMA go.

If you class yourself as a reactionary, you are by definition opposed to progress. Therefore you oppose progressive measures and support reactionary ones. Therefore measures you support are, in you eyes, reactionary. Therefore DOMA is reactionary in both my eyes and yours.

[Divair]

On a federal level? Yes.
In Cali? Yes.
In every other state that it is currently not legal in? No.

Meh. Not good enough.

This is a huge precedent, though, so that's good. And another state legalized. And federal government legalized.

[Individuality-ness]

Judging from the court document I'm reading, it probably will never be up for review, since marriage itself is in the realm of the states.

That's not what Loving v Virginia said.

Educate me.

[Agritum]

Don't be such a little kid and get your facts straight.

LGBT equality is inevitable.

un-fucking-fortunately it is inevitable.

Why are you so butthurt about people getting rights they deserve as human beings?

[Threlizdun]

progress is subjective. It's really a sad day to see DOMA go.

No, progress is determined by what advances the wellbeing of sentient beings. The death of DOMA absolutely accomplished this.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Don't be such a little kid and get your facts straight.

LGBT equality is inevitable.

un-fucking-fortunately it is inevitable.

Other people being happy together in consenting relationships. It's a truly terrifying notion.

[Herador]

On a federal level? Yes.
In Cali? Yes.
In every other state that it is currently not legal in? No.

Cali did it, and Illinois might probably the next though...

Only if the Illinois State Senate calls for vote on that matter...

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

[Divair]

un-fucking-fortunately it is inevitable.

Why are you so butthurt about people getting rights they deserve as human beings?

Because it gets him attention on NSG.

People, stop replying to him.

[Agritum]

Cali did it, and Illinois might probably the next though...

Only if the Illinois State Senate calls for vote on that matter...

Illinois? Really? Bit of an odd state to come next, I'd expect some place like Oregon, Washington, or maybe some state in New England to be next.

All of New England has legalized Gay Marriage, actually. And so has Washington.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Because he just wants attention, and everyone around here seems more than happy to give it to him.

Y'know, I really wish we'd get better at not doing that. We force ourselves to go through this shit.

It's masochism, basically.