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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:00 am

Agritum wrote:
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I can't. That's the problem.

But it's unnatural. You stated that you dislike homosexuality due to it being unnatural (even while it actually is natural)


That doesn't make sense. :(

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Postby Edlichbury » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:01 am

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Yes. Yes it does. Supporting tyranny and genocide makes you evil.


Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.

Yes, my sister and her biological father are certainly "trash." That's not an offensive statement at all.

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Postby Lithosano » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:02 am

So if Schwarzenegger had mounted a defense for Prop 8 then SCOTUS may have ruled to end all ant-equality laws? What would the odds of that be?

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Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.


You are an extraordinarily unlikable person.
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Postby Mirkana » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:02 am

Helvereos wrote:
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Yes. Yes it does. Supporting tyranny and genocide makes you evil.


Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't necessarily refer to me and my people (the Jews) as trash.

Who did you refer to?

Also, for the record, what is natural is not necessarily moral.
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Postby Agritum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:03 am

Helvereos wrote:
Mirkana wrote:
Yes. Yes it does. Supporting tyranny and genocide makes you evil.


Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.

What if you were considered "trash" by the higher-ups? Would you continue defending their social darwinism?

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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:03 am

Helvereos wrote:
Agritum wrote:Get off this unnatural internet, now.


I can't. That's the my problem.


Fixed.
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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:04 am

Edlichbury wrote:
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Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.

Yes, my sister and her biological father are certainly "trash." That's not an offensive statement at all.


I don't know you, so I can't say for certain. Everyone is entitled to their opinions right?

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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:04 am

Ailiailia wrote:
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I can't. That's the my problem.


Fixed.


I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has this problem.

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Postby Agritum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:04 am

Helvereos wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:Yes, my sister and her biological father are certainly "trash." That's not an offensive statement at all.


I don't know you, so I can't say for certain. Everyone is entitled to their opinions right?

Yes. That doesn't imply that opinions can't be wrong.

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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:05 am

Agritum wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.

What if you were considered "trash" by the higher-ups? Would you continue defending their social darwinism?


Unlikely. But in the event, yes, I would.

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Postby DogDoo 7 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:05 am

Lithosano wrote:So if Schwarzenegger had mounted a defense for Prop 8 then SCOTUS may have ruled to end all ant-equality laws? What would the odds of that be?

They could have just used Romer and Windsor to make a case that this was motivated by "particular animus" (which would have been farther reaching, but still not legalized SSM nationwide).
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Postby Mirkana » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:05 am

Helvereos wrote:
Agritum wrote:What if you were considered "trash" by the higher-ups? Would you continue defending their social darwinism?


Unlikely. But in the event, yes, I would.


I find it hard to believe that you would accept your own extermination.

Social Darwinism is evil.
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Rokartian States wrote:There sure is a lot of damning and fucking going around in here. :lol:

It's the international nature of the board.

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Postby DogDoo 7 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:06 am

Mirkana wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't necessarily refer to me and my people (the Jews) as trash.

Referring to ANY collective of people as "trash" is EQUALLY bad.
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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:06 am

Lithosano wrote:So if Schwarzenegger had mounted a defense for Prop 8 then SCOTUS may have ruled to end all ant-equality laws? What would the odds of that be?

Helvereos wrote:
Hey, when it's time to take the trash out, it's time to take the trash out. With regards to evolution, this is quite natural.


You are an extraordinarily unlikable person.


Eh, I'm pretty sure I'm not the worst there is.

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Postby Mirkana » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:06 am

Helvereos wrote:
Lithosano wrote:So if Schwarzenegger had mounted a defense for Prop 8 then SCOTUS may have ruled to end all ant-equality laws? What would the odds of that be?



You are an extraordinarily unlikable person.


Eh, I'm pretty sure I'm not the worst there is.


True. You could be Fred Phelps.
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Rokartian States wrote:There sure is a lot of damning and fucking going around in here. :lol:

It's the international nature of the board.

In some places, it's Saturday night; in other places, Sunday morning.


Blazedtown wrote:Because every decision ever is a secret conspiracy to keep the brothers down.

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Postby Zokorias personal views » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:07 am

Helvereos wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
Fixed.


I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has this problem.

Your problem is that you think that "gays are unnatural".

Can you please, like, provide some facts?
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Postby Agritum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:07 am

Helvereos wrote:
Agritum wrote:What if you were considered "trash" by the higher-ups? Would you continue defending their social darwinism?


Unlikely. But in the event, yes, I would.

So you'd yap in a friendly manner at the bigger dogs as they kill you. Typical.
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Postby Lithosano » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:07 am

DogDoo 7 wrote:
Lithosano wrote:So if Schwarzenegger had mounted a defense for Prop 8 then SCOTUS may have ruled to end all ant-equality laws? What would the odds of that be?

They could have just used Romer and Windsor to make a case that this was motivated by "particular animus" (which would have been farther reaching, but still not legalized SSM nationwide).


"We literally just ruled on this case, and now we're going to cite it for the very next case on the docket."

Has that ever happened before? Either way, this is a pretty big battle, but the war is not over. I really hope the waves made with today's decisions can push equality through split states (Come on, PA!).
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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:08 am

DogDoo 7 wrote:
Mirkana wrote:
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't necessarily refer to me and my people (the Jews) as trash.

Referring to ANY collective of people as "trash" is EQUALLY bad.


I wouldn't agree with you on that. Take Gypsies for instance.

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Postby Agritum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:08 am

Helvereos wrote:
DogDoo 7 wrote:Referring to ANY collective of people as "trash" is EQUALLY bad.


I wouldn't agree with you on that. Take Gypsies for instance.

*Romani people.

And no, they aren't "trash".

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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:09 am

Mirkana wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
Eh, I'm pretty sure I'm not the worst there is.


True. You could be Fred Phelps.


Hey, I ain't friends with Darth Sidious, although I try to be.

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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:10 am

Zokorias personal views wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has this problem.

Your problem is that you think that "gays are unnatural".

Can you please, like, provide some facts?

Just saying Tabs go into slots.
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Postby Mirkana » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:11 am

Agritum wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
I wouldn't agree with you on that. Take Gypsies for instance.

*Romani people.

And no, they aren't "trash".


Indeed they are not. Racists, on the other hand...
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Rokartian States wrote:There sure is a lot of damning and fucking going around in here. :lol:

It's the international nature of the board.

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Postby Olivaero » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:11 am

greed and death wrote:
Zokorias personal views wrote:Your problem is that you think that "gays are unnatural".

Can you please, like, provide some facts?

Just saying Tabs go into slots.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:11 am

Helvereos wrote:
DogDoo 7 wrote:Referring to ANY collective of people as "trash" is EQUALLY bad.


I wouldn't agree with you on that. Take Gypsies for instance.

Who is this person and why won't he go back to Stormfront?
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