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Postby Divair » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:27 am

Helvereos wrote:Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

Say what?

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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:28 am

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Helvereos wrote:Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

You're so clever.


Many thanks. :) :) :)

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Postby Vettrera » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:29 am

Helvereos wrote:Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

is literally confused...
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Postby Wamitoria » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:30 am

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Wamitoria wrote:You're so clever.


Many thanks. :) :) :)

That was sarcasm.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:30 am

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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:30 am

Wamitoria wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
Many thanks. :) :) :)

That was sarcasm.


I'm not sure it was.

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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:31 am

Helvereos wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:That was sarcasm.


I'm not sure it was.

Generally a speaker can determine whether they used sarcasm or not.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:32 am

Neo Art wrote:But yeah, between the "actually, I'm pretty sure Roberts is gonna swing the vote for upholding Obamacare on federalist tax principles" and going 3 for 3 on this one (including calling the 5-4 breakdown), I'm still virtually certain I'm still going to continue to get a plethora of "well, if you were a REAL lawyer...."


Well, if you were a REAL lawyer you wouldn't complain about comments of "well, if you were a REAL lawyer....."
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Postby Choronzon » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:32 am

Helvereos wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:That was sarcasm.


I'm not sure it was.

I promise you, it was.

No one over the age of 12 would have found your comment clever.

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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:33 am

Welsh Cowboy wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
I'm not sure it was.

Generally a speaker can determine whether they used sarcasm or not.


Well, I can't determine their tone or anything.

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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:33 am

Choronzon wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
I'm not sure it was.

I promise you, it was.

No one over the age of 12 would have found your comment clever.


Depends.

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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:33 am

Helvereos wrote:
Welsh Cowboy wrote:Generally a speaker can determine whether they used sarcasm or not.


Well, I can't determine their tone or anything.

But they can. ;)
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:34 am

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greed and death wrote:Kinda wish they had found standing, but gay people are icky really is not standing.

What standing could there have been?

I would rather have had the state of California defend the law. I have and continue to have reservations when elected officials decline to defend the law and this is one of the reasons.
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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:34 am

Welsh Cowboy wrote:
Helvereos wrote:
Well, I can't determine their tone or anything.

But they can. ;)


Hmmmm. Most Interesting.

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Postby Zokorias personal views » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:34 am

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Postby Oneracon » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:34 am

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:Hip hip hooray, the wicked witch is dead.


Half-dead, §2 of DOMA still lives.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:36 am

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DogDoo 7 wrote:Yeah, but the district court only has jurisdiction over the northern half of California. Nowhere else needs to listen to him.


That's not necessarily true when it comes to matter of state law. The court struck down a state law, the district court has the power to do that, and it affects the entire state.

When it comes ot FEDERAL law, the federal district court is binding only in the district, but when it comes to state law, the district court is binding on the state.

I thought because the state was a party it was bound by the injunction against enforcing the law.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:37 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Neo Art wrote:But yeah, between the "actually, I'm pretty sure Roberts is gonna swing the vote for upholding Obamacare on federalist tax principles" and going 3 for 3 on this one (including calling the 5-4 breakdown), I'm still virtually certain I'm still going to continue to get a plethora of "well, if you were a REAL lawyer...."


Well, if you were a REAL lawyer you wouldn't complain about comments of "well, if you were a REAL lawyer....."


If Neo Art were a real lawyer he would be the forum's lawyer and give pro bono legal advice and represent us all in court for free.
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Postby Mr Summertime Noposts » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:37 am

Helvereos wrote:Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.


I agree entirely. It's amazing how alike we are.

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Postby Neo Art » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 am

greed and death wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
That's not necessarily true when it comes to matter of state law. The court struck down a state law, the district court has the power to do that, and it affects the entire state.

When it comes ot FEDERAL law, the federal district court is binding only in the district, but when it comes to state law, the district court is binding on the state.

I thought because the state was a party it was bound by the injunction against enforcing the law.


I'm not sure how that's different from what I said...
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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:39 am

Mr Summertime Noposts wrote:
Helvereos wrote:Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.


I agree entirely. It's amazing how alike we are.


Actually, I got that line from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxLnCJJB_Jg

Hope you enjoy it. :)

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Postby Zocra » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:40 am

Greater Terra Empire wrote:"Your thoughts?"

Gay Marriage should be illegal.


Agreed.
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Postby Enadail » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:40 am

Zocra wrote:
Greater Terra Empire wrote:"Your thoughts?"

Gay Marriage should be illegal.


Agreed.


Why do you hate equality?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:40 am

greed and death wrote:
Vettrera wrote:What standing could there have been?

I would rather have had the state of California defend the law. I have and continue to have reservations when elected officials decline to defend the law and this is one of the reasons.


Well?

There are still a great many dimple heads in this state. I actually know a few people who voted for Prop 8 because they thought the kiddies would have mandatory lessons of the gay lifestyle.

The end result is what matters.

What is interesting to me is I have a few friends who like to drone on about the nanny state and yet support prop 8.
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Postby Helvereos » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:40 am

Zocra wrote:
Greater Terra Empire wrote:"Your thoughts?"

Gay Marriage should be illegal.


Agreed.


The Bible clearly says they're evil. ;)

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