SCOTUS SSM rulings: DOMA overturned, Prop 8 gone

[Zokorias personal views]

Why do you hate equality?

And honestly, I doubt banning same sex marriages will ever be outright declared constitutional.

Given that the Supreme Court will only become more liberal over the next few years, there's no chance.

Unless either Judges Scalia, Alito, or Thomas retires...

[Oneracon]

And actually, as an immigration advocate, this is also great news; same sex couples can now file for spousal visa's and petitions I'd imagine (unless USCIS doesn't count as part of the Federal government).

Progress marches on, friend.

A little more slowly in the US, but indeed it's true.

[Neo Art]

Neo, let me ask you this, if SCOTUS sent the Proposition 8 case back to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals with instructions to dismiss and vacate their decision, doesn't that make the whole thing fall back on the San Francisco judge's decision, which was much more damaging to bans around the country?

Yeah, but the district court only has jurisdiction over the northern half of California. Nowhere else needs to listen to him.

That's not necessarily true when it comes to matter of state law. The court struck down a state law, the district court has the power to do that, and it affects the entire state.

When it comes ot FEDERAL law, the federal district court is binding only in the district, but when it comes to state law, the district court is binding on the state.

[Northern Dominus]

Given that the Supreme Court will only become more liberal over the next few years, there's no chance.

Unless either Judges Scalia, Alito, or Thomas retires...

Or dies. It's amazing what stress and a crap diet will do to a blobby bigoted asshole like Scalia

[New Chalcedon]

Given that the Supreme Court will only become more liberal over the next few years, there's no chance.

Unless either Judges Scalia, Alito, or Thomas retires...

Scalia's been on the Court for 27 years, and is 77 years old. He's unlikely (at best) to retire, but he's getting on in years.
Alito - no chance. He's a recent (7 years ago) appointment, and is only 63 years old. He won't retire, and is highly-unlikely to shuffle off.
Thomas - is only two years older than Alito, although he's served since 1991, and is showing no signs of ill-health or impending retirement.

There are three Justices who might die or retire soon: Scalia, Kennedy and Ginsburg. Breyer's an outside chance to retire soon.

What this means regarding politics is simple: party loyalty is going to be emphasised heavily, not just by the organisations of each party (that's to be expected), but by appeals to SCOTUS appointments: Democratic netroots who dislike [insert Democratic nominee's name here] will be told to vote because the SCOTUS matters, as will Republican netroots.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Given that the Supreme Court will only become more liberal over the next few years, there's no chance.

Unless either Judges Scalia, Alito, or Thomas retires...

Scalia is 77 years old. I don't wish him harm (I'd love it if he had a long, happy retirement starting any time now ), but it's not inconceivable that he may not have too very many more years on the court.

[Greed and Death]

Kinda wish they had found standing, but gay people are icky really is not standing.

[Greed and Death]

Unless either Judges Scalia, Alito, or Thomas retires...

Scalia is 77 years old. I don't wish him harm (I'd love it if he had a long, happy retirement starting any time now ), but it's not inconceivable that he may not have too very many more years on the court.

Ginsburg is older and has two bouts of cancer.
Strangely she has declined to retire this year or next.

[Vettrera]

Kinda wish they had found standing, but gay people are icky really is not standing.

What standing could there have been?

[Nailed to the Perch]

Scalia is 77 years old. I don't wish him harm (I'd love it if he had a long, happy retirement starting any time now ), but it's not inconceivable that he may not have too very many more years on the court.

Ginsburg is older and has two bouts of cancer.
Strangely she has declined to retire this year or next.

She's stated before that she's holding out to equal Brandeis's record and she won't retire until she's at least 82. And if ever there were someone who could simply decide not to let cancer or age slow her down, it's Ruth Bader Ginsburg. The woman's a badass.

[Welsh Cowboy]

Ginsburg is older and has two bouts of cancer.
Strangely she has declined to retire this year or next.

She's stated before that she's holding out to equal Brandeis's record and she won't retire until she's at least 82. And if ever there were someone who could simply decide not to let cancer or age slow her down, it's Ruth Bader Ginsburg. The woman's a badass.

I don't really like her decisions, but I admire people who are still on it when they're old.

Although maybe there's something to be said for mandatory retirement at say, 70 years old.

[Neo Art]

There's a bit of a joke in legal circles. Ruther Bader Ginsberg doesn't get cancer. Cancer gets Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

[Neo Art]

Brandeis's

Really? From you?

[Nailed to the Perch]

There's a bit of a joke in legal circles. Ruther Bader Ginsberg doesn't get cancer. Cancer gets Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

Ha. Pretty much.

[Oneracon]

There's a bit of a joke in legal circles. Ruther Bader Ginsberg doesn't get cancer. Cancer gets Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

You Ruth Bader believe it!

[Neo Art]

But yeah, between the "actually, I'm pretty sure Roberts is gonna swing the vote for upholding Obamacare on federalist tax principles" and going 3 for 3 on this one (including calling the 5-4 breakdown), I'm still virtually certain I'm still going to continue to get a plethora of "well, if you were a REAL lawyer...."

[Helvereos]

Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

[Welsh Cowboy]

But yeah, between the "actually, I'm pretty sure Roberts is gonna swing the vote for upholding Obamacare on federalist tax principles" and going 3 for 3 on this one (including calling the 5-4 breakdown), I'm still virtually certain I'm still going to continue to get a plethora of "well, if you were a REAL lawyer...."

I hear there's a lot of federal court openings...

You might want to send your credentials to the White House.

[Ceannairceach]

Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

...What?

[Nailed to the Perch]

Brandeis's

Really? From you?

Really, from me! I dispute the idea that singular proper nouns ending in S should be treated differently than singular proper nouns not ending in S when forming the possessive, and feel written language should reflect spoken language rather than deferring to visual aesthetics. Spoken aloud, most people would say "Brandeis-es record" rather than "Brandeis record." Further, "Brandeis's" may LOOK sloppier, but it communicates more clearly that we are refering to a singular person named Brandeis and not a collection of people named Brandei, and I value clarity above all in my grammatical philosophy.

I'm not just a grammar nerd - I'm a grammar nerd with OPINIONS.

[Wamitoria]

Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

You're so clever.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

Well that is a stupid post.

[Greed and Death]

Unless either Judges Scalia, Alito, or Thomas retires...

Scalia's been on the Court for 27 years, and is 77 years old. He's unlikely (at best) to retire, but he's getting on in years.
Alito - no chance. He's a recent (7 years ago) appointment, and is only 63 years old. He won't retire, and is highly-unlikely to shuffle off.
Thomas - is only two years older than Alito, although he's served since 1991, and is showing no signs of ill-health or impending retirement.

There are three Justices who might die or retire soon: Scalia, Kennedy and Ginsburg. Breyer's an outside chance to retire soon.

What this means regarding politics is simple: party loyalty is going to be emphasised heavily, not just by the organisations of each party (that's to be expected), but by appeals to SCOTUS appointments: Democratic netroots who dislike [insert Democratic nominee's name here] will be told to vote because the SCOTUS matters, as will Republican netroots.

Ginsburg is most likely to retire during this President. She is tough but two bouts of cancer cracks even the strongest among us.

Scalia and Kennedy will retire next president if it is a Republican. IF there is a Democrat elected there is a chance one of them dies. While Scalia is in good health he is overweight so heart attack is a possibility. Though both Kennedy and Scalia are at the age where deaths plateau for a few years.

Thomas despite being 10+ years younger is also at risk of death next president. He comes from a poor back ground which meant poor diet as a kid, which may influence life expectancy.

[Choronzon]

Not to be rude or anything, but the US needs to stop its f****t-y ways; even Elton John is calling them gay.

Source?

[Nailed to the Perch]

But yeah, between the "actually, I'm pretty sure Roberts is gonna swing the vote for upholding Obamacare on federalist tax principles" and going 3 for 3 on this one (including calling the 5-4 breakdown), I'm still virtually certain I'm still going to continue to get a plethora of "well, if you were a REAL lawyer...."

Well, duh. You're still not on Youtube, after all.