SCOTUS SSM rulings: DOMA overturned, Prop 8 gone

[Grenartia]

The ends justify the means

Until you look in the mirror and find the same kind of monster you were fighting all along.

[Valcouria]

I would eagerly embrace the Confederacy without hesitation. I thought that clear.

And, again, the Confederacy would be crushed, and, again, much like with the first Civil War and total abhorration of slavery in its wake, so will the second Civil War's end bring about a total opposition to banning same-sex marriage.

And I would die in combat rather than live to see such an abhorrent thing put into place. Frankly I would hope that a guerrilla resistance would spring up should it come to that.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I would eagerly embrace the Confederacy without hesitation. I thought that clear.

And, again, the Confederacy would be crushed, and, again, much like with the first Civil War and total abhorration of slavery in its wake, so will the second Civil War's end bring about a total opposition to banning same-sex marriage.

Bummer. Is she that bad, huh?

He. And yes. You should google him. His shit would be hilarious if he wasn't actually in office.

I will, but not tonight. I had enough derp as it is.

[Valcouria]

The ends justify the means

Until you look in the mirror and find the same kind of monster you were fighting all along.

I believe that requires empathy...a useless trait.

[Liriena]

So you're also a liar?

You rant and ramble against the "immorality" of homosexuality and same-sex marriage (both of which are not in any way harmful, abnormal or unnatural)...yet every single opinion, every single proposal, and every single "project" of yours are based on blatant sins and immoralities.

How come your brain hasn't exploded from the cognitive dissonance?

Oh...that's right! You are completely comfortable with holding onto hypocritical beliefs!

Why did I even give you the time of day?

Also: Considering that our discussion regarding Valcourias' character is clearly useless and also a waste of a good thread...Can't we just...you know...talk about DOMA and Prop 8? Maybe celebrate a bit?

The ends justify the means...to tell a lie now to ensure a more moral and upright society in the future is worth it.

No, the end never justifies the means.

That Torquemada thought he was creating a better Spain in no way validated his persecution of Jews.

That Hitler thought he was creating a better Germany in no way validated his genocide against Jews, gypsies, romani, gays, esperantists, etc.

That Mao thought he was creating a better China in no way validated his colossal failure of a "Great Leap Forward".

That the French Revolution eventually brought us human rights in no way validated the Terror of Robespierre.

That the colonization of the Americas led to the eventual birth of prosper nations in no way validated the genocide against the original inhabitants of the land.

That homophobes believe that they are creating a better world in no way validates their ignorant, irrational and hateful persecution of LGBT people.

[The Rich Port]

Alright, I'm fucking sick of Valcorkia's phony early 1900's bullshit threadjack.

Ignored, and everyone would be wise to do the same.

Now then... I really have to wonder whether making this a state's rights thing was the best way to go...

[Mavorpen]

The ends justify the means

Until you look in the mirror and find the same kind of monster you were fighting all along.

You should be a poet. *nods*

[Lithosano]

And, again, the Confederacy would be crushed, and, again, much like with the first Civil War and total abhorration of slavery in its wake, so will the second Civil War's end bring about a total opposition to banning same-sex marriage.

And I would die in combat rather than live to see such an abhorrent thing put into place. Frankly I would hope that a guerrilla resistance would spring up should it come to that.

I've never before met someone who called themselves a Christian but was such an antithesis to Christianity.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Alright, I'm fucking sick of Valcorkia's phony early 1900's bullshit threadjack.

Ignored, and everyone would be wise to do the same.

Now then... I really have to wonder whether making this a state's rights thing was the best way to go...

Wasn't that one of Scalia's contentions?

[Liriena]

Until you look in the mirror and find the same kind of monster you were fighting all along.

I believe that requires empathy...a useless trait.

The Catholic Church says otherwise.

Surprisingly enough...the Catholic Church also disagrees with you on homosexuality.

[Mkuki]

Alright, I'm fucking sick of Valcorkia's phony early 1900's bullshit threadjack.

Ignored, and everyone would be wise to do the same.

Now then... I really have to wonder whether making this a state's rights thing was the best way to go...

Leaving it to the current Congress would be worse. Much worse, y'know.

[Individuality-ness]

Alright, I'm fucking sick of Valcorkia's phony early 1900's bullshit threadjack.

Ignored, and everyone would be wise to do the same.

Now then... I really have to wonder whether making this a state's rights thing was the best way to go...

Leaving it to the current Congress would be worse. Much worse, y'know.

Catch 22?

[Liriena]

Also: Considering that our discussion regarding Valcourias' character is clearly useless and also a waste of a good thread...Can't we just...you know...talk about DOMA and Prop 8? Maybe celebrate a bit?

I support this message by hoisting the colors!

Fabulous

[Liriena]

Alright, I'm fucking sick of Valcorkia's phony early 1900's bullshit threadjack.

Ignored, and everyone would be wise to do the same.

Now then... I really have to wonder whether making this a state's rights thing was the best way to go...

Wasn't that one of Scalia's contentions?

Scalia's "contentions" were incoherent ramblings.

I expected a tiny little bit better from him.

[Valcouria]

Alright, I'm fucking sick of Valcorkia's phony early 1900's bullshit threadjack.

Ignored, and everyone would be wise to do the same.

Now then... I really have to wonder whether making this a state's rights thing was the best way to go...

You flatter me with assuming that is my intention; I certainly wouldn't mind intentionally trying to destroy any celebration of gay marriage. But I am only still here because people still challenge me, and I, being a gentleman, obligingly respond.

Perhaps everyone should decide to leave me be rather than keep trying to convince me that homosexuality is anything but the perversion it is?
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Good. I will take my leave now, and, although I feel it is a waste, will pray for all of you that you all will see the light and decide to drop this immoral crusade.

[Grenartia]

And, again, the Confederacy would be crushed, and, again, much like with the first Civil War and total abhorration of slavery in its wake, so will the second Civil War's end bring about a total opposition to banning same-sex marriage.

And I would die in combat rather than live to see such an abhorrent thing put into place. Frankly I would hope that a guerrilla resistance would spring up should it come to that.

Except everybody save for a fringe few would realize that the attempt to secede is shit. And of course, you and your ilk would be tried for treason (if not killed in the attempt to over throw the government), and, most likely, either put in prison for life, or executed.

I'd rather just, you know, find a way to rationalize things and change my fucking mind. But, then again, I'm a reasonable, rational person who values the happiness of others.

[Grenartia]

Until you look in the mirror and find the same kind of monster you were fighting all along.

I believe that requires empathy...a useless trait.

No. Its the lack of empathy that's a useless trait (IIRC, that's called sociopathy).

[Mkuki]

Leaving it to the current Congress would be worse. Much worse, y'know.

Catch 22?

Given that eight states have legalized, or relegalized in the case of California, since 2010 I'd say it's done a pretty good job.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Wasn't that one of Scalia's contentions?

Scalia's "contentions" were incoherent ramblings.

I expected a tiny little bit better from him.

I must say, his dissent made him sound butthurt to me.

Correcting myself: he said that once there was no more dispute, the case should've stayed in district court's and not reach SCOTUS.

[Individuality-ness]

Catch 22?

Given that eight states have legalized, or relegalized in the case of California, since 2010 I'd say it's done a pretty good job.

What, states doing it on their own initiative?

[Liriena]

I'd rather just, you know, find a way to rationalize things and change my fucking mind. But, then again, I'm a reasonable, rational person who values the happiness of others.

You godless muslim commie illuminatti!

[Mkuki]

Given that eight states have legalized, or relegalized in the case of California, since 2010 I'd say it's done a pretty good job.

What, states doing it on their own initiative?

--ignore--

[Individuality-ness]

Scalia's "contentions" were incoherent ramblings.

I expected a tiny little bit better from him.

I must say, his dissent made him sound butthurt to me.

Correcting myself: he said that once there was no more dispute, the case should've stayed in district court's and not reach SCOTUS.

Except the US never paid it.

[Individuality-ness]

What, states doing it on their own initiative?

All 13 or 14 of them have.

You think it's possible to convince the others to join us?

[Liriena]

I feel it is a waste, will pray for all of you that you all will see the light and decide to drop this immoral crusade.

You know...I don't usually do this...but this time, it's quite fitting.

FUCKING DITTO!