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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:We have the Internet, we have better communications system, we have more supporters by the minute now. We'll get there.

I surely hope so. It's a matter of treating people with dignity, regardless of their sexual orientation.

Yes. That's all it is. Treat people with respect.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:52 pm

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Valcouria wrote:I think they have something much more important to uphold, like the traditional and correct definition of marriage and to reverse the secularization of society.

I'd be willing to fight alongside them in a heartbeat.

My god the ITGness is dripping off you.

Sounds like a good porno concept.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:53 pm

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Preferably not. Preferably, all at the same time, as soon as possible.



And, as I said before, that only gives our cause more legitimacy. Effectively, you'd play a crucial role in the nation-wide recognition of same-sex marriage. Do you really want that on your conscious?

Frankly, if the south goes it's own way and upholds marriage as it should be, I'd be willing to say without remorse 'to Hell with the US.'


Except it can't and won't. And the news of your attempts to rebel for such a relatively trivial reason will polarize almost everybody else in favor of SSM.

Again, effectively, you'd be handing us SSM.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:53 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I surely hope so. It's a matter of treating people with dignity, regardless of their sexual orientation.

Yes. That's all it is. Treat people with respect.

How about I treat everyone without respect equally?
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Postby Valcouria » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:53 pm

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Valcouria wrote:Frankly, if the south goes it's own way and upholds marriage as it should be, I'd be willing to say without remorse 'to Hell with the US.'

And where would you go?

I would eagerly embrace the Confederacy without hesitation. I thought that clear.
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Postby Condunum » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:53 pm

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Condunum wrote:My god the ITGness is dripping off you.

Sounds like a good porno concept.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:53 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Yes. That's all it is. Treat people with respect.

How about I treat everyone without respect equally?

Matters little, I guess, so long as you don't impose your hate on others.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:53 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I surely hope so. It's a matter of treating people with dignity, regardless of their sexual orientation.

Yes. That's all it is. Treat people with respect.


Such a simple concept yet, so difficulties to grasp for some.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:54 pm

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Vettrera wrote:And where would you go?

I would eagerly embrace the Confederacy without hesitation. I thought that clear.

Who knew there were such dedicated masochists in the world.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:54 pm

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You're still very unlikely to pass. I don't think many professors of criminal law or human rights would look kindly upon a student who worships Pinochet, favors vigilantism and lynchins as a pseudo-legitimate form of justice and apparently understands nothing about the origins and nature of human law.

You forget...I am a figurative chameleon...I can mask my true persona under a more socially acceptable one, if need be.

So you're also a liar?

You rant and ramble against the "immorality" of homosexuality and same-sex marriage (both of which are not in any way harmful, abnormal or unnatural)...yet every single opinion, every single proposal, and every single "project" of yours are based on blatant sins and immoralities.

How come your brain hasn't exploded from the cognitive dissonance?

Oh...that's right! You are completely comfortable with holding onto hypocritical beliefs!

Why did I even give you the time of day? :palm:

Also: Considering that our discussion regarding Valcourias' character is clearly useless and also a waste of a good thread...Can't we just...you know...talk about DOMA and Prop 8? Maybe celebrate a bit?
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Postby Vettrera » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:54 pm

Valcouria wrote:
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Oh, yeah, that's worked out great before.

They had great reasons, too.

I think they have something much more important to uphold, like the traditional and correct definition of marriage and to reverse the secularization of society.

I'd be willing to fight alongside them in a heartbeat.

I wonder how that is working in the Middle East...
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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Yes. That's all it is. Treat people with respect.

Such a simple concept yet, so difficulties to grasp for some.

Sadists, I presume. And we're the masochists, willing to take the bait and torture ourselves.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:54 pm

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No. Tennessee. I'm willing to bet actual money on that.



I was referring to people who'd been caught before the abortion was performed.


Is it worse on your neck of the woods?


Yep. Especially considering that Stacey Campfield keeps getting elected.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:55 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:How about I treat everyone without respect equally?

Matters little, I guess, so long as you don't impose your hate on others.

My hate will be perfectly passive.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:55 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Such a simple concept yet, so difficulties to grasp for some.

Sadists, I presume. And we're the masochists, willing to take the bait and torture ourselves.


If you're referring to the poster in question, I ceased arguing with him. No point. I call Poe on him.
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Postby Vettrera » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:56 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Vettrera wrote:And where would you go?

I would eagerly embrace the Confederacy without hesitation. I thought that clear.

I misread you post as saying if the South adopted Gay marriage.
I still don't understand how you can center your life, let alone a country, on a book that obviously has some inaccuracies.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:56 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Is it worse on your neck of the woods?


Yep. Especially considering that Stacey Campfield keeps getting elected.


Bummer. Is she that bad, huh?
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Postby Valcouria » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Valcouria wrote:You forget...I am a figurative chameleon...I can mask my true persona under a more socially acceptable one, if need be.

So you're also a liar?

You rant and ramble against the "immorality" of homosexuality and same-sex marriage (both of which are not in any way harmful, abnormal or unnatural)...yet every single opinion, every single proposal, and every single "project" of yours are based on blatant sins and immoralities.

How come your brain hasn't exploded from the cognitive dissonance?

Oh...that's right! You are completely comfortable with holding onto hypocritical beliefs!

Why did I even give you the time of day? :palm:

Also: Considering that our discussion regarding Valcourias' character is clearly useless and also a waste of a good thread...Can't we just...you know...talk about DOMA and Prop 8? Maybe celebrate a bit?

The ends justify the means...to tell a lie now to ensure a more moral and upright society in the future is worth it.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:57 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Sadists, I presume. And we're the masochists, willing to take the bait and torture ourselves.

If you're referring to the poster in question, I ceased arguing with him. No point. I call Poe on him.

No point, yes. We're destroying the forum due to our masochism.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:58 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:If you're referring to the poster in question, I ceased arguing with him. No point. I call Poe on him.

No point, yes. We're destroying the forum due to our masochism.


I agreed, but lets not debate that here. :)
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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:No point, yes. We're destroying the forum due to our masochism.

I agreed, but lets not debate that here. :)

True. :) So let's celebrate instead.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:59 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Vettrera wrote:And where would you go?

I would eagerly embrace the Confederacy without hesitation. I thought that clear.


And, again, the Confederacy would be crushed, and, again, much like with the first Civil War and total abhorration of slavery in its wake, so will the second Civil War's end bring about a total opposition to banning same-sex marriage.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Yep. Especially considering that Stacey Campfield keeps getting elected.


Bummer. Is she that bad, huh?


He. And yes. You should google him. His shit would be hilarious if he wasn't actually in office.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:59 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I agreed, but lets not debate that here. :)

True. :) So let's celebrate instead.


I've gone into Disco ball mode with my best friend since the ruling came down. :lol:
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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:59 pm

Choronzon wrote:....law comes from God?

So...lawyers are like priests?


I'm gonna go with no. In at least one very important way, lawyers are definitely not like priests, in my experience. 8) ;)
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Postby Bralia » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:00 pm

Liriena wrote:Also: Considering that our discussion regarding Valcourias' character is clearly useless and also a waste of a good thread...Can't we just...you know...talk about DOMA and Prop 8? Maybe celebrate a bit?

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