SCOTUS SSM rulings: DOMA overturned, Prop 8 gone

[Norstal]

Says who?

Says the fact that in no society, in history, up until the early 2000's (waiting to be debunked on this one), has ever married gays. This is self-evident.

Ancient Chinese civilization had it. But damn laowais foreigners had to change that.

Honestly, the collapse of the Chinese empire is due to them banning homosexual relationships.

[Hornesia]

Apparently. I apologize.

So now you support same sex marriage?


Damn, that was easy.

Not really, but I never really had a problem with them having equal rights.

[Agritum]

Says the fact that in no society, in history, up until the early 2000's (waiting to be debunked on this one), has ever married gays. This is self-evident.

Ancient Chinese civilization had it. But damn laowais foreigners had to change that.

Honestly, the collapse of the Chinese empire is due to them banning homosexual relationships.

[DogDoo 7]

Traditional marriage:

My wife who was my brothers widow.

Every year in Israel, a number of people appear before the rabbinical courts in order to get out of the levirate marriage obligation, and have their shoes spat in. True story.

[Divair]

So now you support same sex marriage?


Damn, that was easy.

Not really, but I never really had a problem with them having equal rights.

So you support same sex marriage.


Damn, that was easy.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Speaking as a Missourian, please do not give us your bigoted loudmouth assholes.

We would never do that to you guys. You have enough of your own.

Srsly.

[Norstal]

This is of course with the hope that the California circuit court won't overturn their decision on prop 8.

The 9th Circuit has to dismiss the case since the Proponents didn't have standing to appeal.
According to this document in the 9th circuit one does not necessarily need to have standing to INTERVENE in a case, so the District Court's ruling would stand.
Which actually results in an interesting precedent. Someone can intervene without standing, but then isn't allowed to appeal the ruling. What happens (purely hypothetical) if the Intervenors without Standing WIN a case, and the losers (with standing) appeal?

I think I get it. Maybe.

[Norstal]

Ancient Chinese civilization had it. But damn laowais foreigners had to change that.

Honestly, the collapse of the Chinese empire is due to them banning homosexual relationships.

That last part is sarcasm btw.

[Rhodesi]

Says the fact that in no society, in history, up until the early 2000's (waiting to be debunked on this one), has ever married gays. This is self-evident.

Damn, your history is really shit, isn't it? Go read up a bit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#Ancient

Ancient Mesopotamia? Rather obscure... and seriously, Elagabulus is a positive argument for same-sex marriage?

[Lithosano]

Says the fact that in no society, in history, up until the early 2000's (waiting to be debunked on this one), has ever married gays. This is self-evident.

Ancient Chinese civilization had it. But damn laowais foreigners had to change that.

Honestly, the collapse of the Chinese empire is due to them banning homosexual relationships.

You can add ancient Rome, Greece, reasonably modern Japan, and medieval Spain (With the blessing of the Church!)

[Hornesia]

Not really, but I never really had a problem with them having equal rights.

So you support same sex marriage.


Damn, that was easy.

I guess. I never was an anti-gay marriage extremist though and I waver easily, so I'm not that much of a feat.

[Divair]

Damn, your history is really shit, isn't it? Go read up a bit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#Ancient

Ancient Mesopotamia? Rather obscure... and seriously, Elagabulus is a positive argument for same-sex marriage?

No, you don't see anyone here arguing for same sex marriage because it was legal in the past. I'm just disproving your shitty claims.

[Phocidaea]

Dictionaries.

From the Merriam-Dexter dictionary.

Definition 2 explicitly defines same-sex marriage as being a form of marriage.

Bigotry fail.

[Aldheim]

Says who?

Says the fact that in no society, in history, up until the early 2000's (waiting to be debunked on this one), has ever married gays. This is self-evident.

I believe there were several native american tribes that performed gay marriages until the Europeans came along and forced them to stop

[Divair]

So you support same sex marriage.


Damn, that was easy.

I guess. I never was an anti-gay marriage extremist though and I waver easily, so I'm not that much of a feat.

Welcome aboard the rainbow train.

[Northern Dominus]

Actually the only thing holding Illinois back from legilsating marriage equality is a cadre of loudmouth bigoted assholes from downstate that their equally bigoted asshole constituency keeps voting into office.

So really the solution isn't to try and get it around that cardre, it's to cut the worthless southern counties off and give them to other states which would be happy to welcome bigoted loudmouth assholes like Indiana or Missouri or Kentucky... after offering amnesty for people who don't want to live in those states and understand that marriage is a fundamental human right.

Speaking as a Missourian, please do not give us your bigoted loudmouth assholes.

How bout you move up this way then, lend your talent and understanding to Illinois above the Peoria/Chapagna line?

That way Missouri can finally change it's motto "Gives your banal, your bigoted, your ignorant..."

[Ifreann]

Damn, your history is really shit, isn't it? Go read up a bit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#Ancient

Ancient Mesopotamia? Rather obscure... and seriously, Elagabulus is a positive argument for same-sex marriage?

You said you were waiting to be debunked. You have been. No one said anything about positive arguments for same sex marriage.

[Rhodesi]

Says the fact that in no society, in history, up until the early 2000's (waiting to be debunked on this one), has ever married gays. This is self-evident.

I believe there were several native american tribes that performed gay marriages until the Europeans came along and forced them to stop

And who says colonization was a bad thing

[Phocidaea]

Says who?

Says the fact that in no society, in history, up until the early 2000's (waiting to be debunked on this one), has ever married gays. This is self-evident.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_unions

Or do you prefer Conservapedia?

[DogDoo 7]

The 9th Circuit has to dismiss the case since the Proponents didn't have standing to appeal.
According to this document in the 9th circuit one does not necessarily need to have standing to INTERVENE in a case, so the District Court's ruling would stand.
Which actually results in an interesting precedent. Someone can intervene without standing, but then isn't allowed to appeal the ruling. What happens (purely hypothetical) if the Intervenors without Standing WIN a case, and the losers (with standing) appeal?

I think I get it. Maybe.

I am most certainly not a lawyer though. I wish there was someone here who was so he/she could answer my hypotheticals.

[Agritum]

Ancient Chinese civilization had it. But damn laowais foreigners had to change that.

Honestly, the collapse of the Chinese empire is due to them banning homosexual relationships.

You can add ancient Rome, Greece, reasonably modern Japan, and medieval Spain (With the blessing of the Church!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelphopoiesis and this.

[Divair]

I believe there were several native american tribes that performed gay marriages until the Europeans came along and forced them to stop

And who says colonization was a bad thing

Pretty much anyone who wants to be taken seriously on this forum.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

I'm quite glad the Supreme Court has defended my right to get married today. Correct ruling, for a change, at least in my opinion.
Joy oh joy~

[Herador]

I believe there were several native american tribes that performed gay marriages until the Europeans came along and forced them to stop

And who says colonization was a bad thing

Usually the people being colonized, but who gives a fuck about them, right?

[Aldheim]

I believe there were several native american tribes that performed gay marriages until the Europeans came along and forced them to stop

And who says colonization was a bad thing

I do