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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:53 pm

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Anyways This special session is definitely going to be heated.

He can call it what he wants.

What happened there? That is the democratic process. If your bill can't get past the people who it's about, tough.


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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:54 pm

Hey we already got locked because of you guys' inability to stay on topic.
So I'll say it again -- THIS IS NOT AN ABORTION THREAD.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:01 pm

Lol, I read the title as "Wendy's is going for a 13 hr filibuster", I had to do a double take.

But anyway, even as an anti-abortionist, I must acknowledge this woman's resolve. It isn't common these days for a person, especially a politician to stick to their guns. She maybe my ideological enemy, but the woman has balls, the woman has balls.

I still hate filibusters though, even when people I like do it. They're a waste of time.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:05 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Hey we already got locked because of you guys' inability to stay on topic.
So I'll say it again -- THIS IS NOT AN ABORTION THREAD.


The only ones going off-topic and talking about abortion are the ones trying to excuse the flagrant political manipulations and cheating being conducted by the Texas Republicans.
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Postby Orham » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:16 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:Lol, I read the title as "Wendy's is going for a 13 hr filibuster", I had to do a double take.

But anyway, even as an anti-abortionist, I must acknowledge this woman's resolve. It isn't common these days for a person, especially a politician to stick to their guns. She maybe my ideological enemy, but the woman has balls, the woman has balls.

I still hate filibusters though, even when people I like do it. They're a waste of time.


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Postby Choronzon » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:18 pm

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It's good to know that you're smart enough to say snarky things. I would hardly call people misogynists just because they think lives are worth protecting. Texas Republicans are constantly protecting freedom and democracy against Davis and her multiculturalist, identity politicking ilk.

You overplayed you hand pal.

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Postby Kaylea » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:59 pm

Hope she does it again. <3

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:15 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:Lol, I read the title as "Wendy's is going for a 13 hr filibuster", I had to do a double take.

But anyway, even as an anti-abortionist, I must acknowledge this woman's resolve. It isn't common these days for a person, especially a politician to stick to their guns. She maybe my ideological enemy, but the woman has balls, the woman has balls.

I still hate filibusters though, even when people I like do it. They're a waste of time.

That would be the point, to waste time to ensure that the minority isn't trampled upon by a great majority.

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Postby Cashewbutter » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:30 pm

Why bother with democracy, then, if the minority can force their will upon the majority anyway? "Well, we vote, and the majority wins, unless the minority doesn't want that to happen, and then they can gum up the process and get their way regardless."

We already have a process for getting rid of unconstitutional bills that unlawfully hinder people's rights. You take it to court. The Supreme Court, if necessary. Filibusters are a way of abusing the system and exploiting loopholes. It doesn't matter which side is going it - it's ridiculous.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:38 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:Lol, I read the title as "Wendy's is going for a 13 hr filibuster", I had to do a double take.

But anyway, even as an anti-abortionist, I must acknowledge this woman's resolve. It isn't common these days for a person, especially a politician to stick to their guns. She maybe my ideological enemy, but the woman has balls, the woman has balls.

I still hate filibusters though, even when people I like do it. They're a waste of time.


Yes. They are a waste of time. By design. It's one way to check and balance the whole procedure, because it can slow legislation that is being forced through under pressure.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:39 pm

Cashewbutter wrote:Why bother with democracy, then, if the minority can force their will upon the majority anyway? "Well, we vote, and the majority wins, unless the minority doesn't want that to happen, and then they can gum up the process and get their way regardless."

We already have a process for getting rid of unconstitutional bills that unlawfully hinder people's rights. You take it to court. The Supreme Court, if necessary. Filibusters are a way of abusing the system and exploiting loopholes. It doesn't matter which side is going it - it's ridiculous.


What's ridiculous, is describing part of the system as an abuse of the system.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:04 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cashewbutter wrote:Why bother with democracy, then, if the minority can force their will upon the majority anyway? "Well, we vote, and the majority wins, unless the minority doesn't want that to happen, and then they can gum up the process and get their way regardless."

We already have a process for getting rid of unconstitutional bills that unlawfully hinder people's rights. You take it to court. The Supreme Court, if necessary. Filibusters are a way of abusing the system and exploiting loopholes. It doesn't matter which side is going it - it's ridiculous.


What's ridiculous, is describing part of the system as an abuse of the system.


It's only abuse when Democrats use it.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Minnysota » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:07 pm

Choronzon wrote:You overplayed you hand pal.


Do elaborate.
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