Wendy Davis Is Going for a 13 Hour Filibuster

[Forsakia]

Because politicians shouldn't be the people deciding how tax money is spent?

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that politicians should stop trying to ban or severely restrict abortion.

Not aimed at you particularly, but the image seemed a bit of an odd fit in the thread about restricting healthcare funding.

But on a side note, yes the legality of abortions and particularly what stage in the pregnancy they became illegal is something politicians should be deciding.

[Maurepas]

They shouldn't be the ones deciding which medical procedures are performed.

Imagine if they were doing this to say, Cardiologists instead: "We need to protect the sanctity of the natural heart! Ban coronary bypasses, and stop all public funding for performing the operation! Life begins at the cellular level!" It'd be ridiculous. What makes abortion any different?

They decide how tax money is spent, sure, but if you're going to use tax money for medicinal purposes, it should be someone educated in medical science who makes the decision as to what procedures it's spent on.

They already do that.

Well, maybe that part. But I mean, like I said, if we're going to publicly fund medical procedures, we shouldn't be picking and choosing what those are, or at least someone without a degree in the field shouldn't.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that politicians should stop trying to ban or severely restrict abortion.

Not aimed at you particularly, but the image seemed a bit of an odd fit in the thread about restricting healthcare funding.

But on a side note, yes the legality of abortions and particularly what stage in the pregnancy they became illegal is something politicians should be deciding.

No. They shouldn't.

[Frisivisia]

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that politicians should stop trying to ban or severely restrict abortion.

Not aimed at you particularly, but the image seemed a bit of an odd fit in the thread about restricting healthcare funding.

But on a side note, yes the legality of abortions and particularly what stage in the pregnancy they became illegal is something politicians should be deciding.

Viability. Done.

[Individuality-ness]

Not aimed at you particularly, but the image seemed a bit of an odd fit in the thread about restricting healthcare funding.

But on a side note, yes the legality of abortions and particularly what stage in the pregnancy they became illegal is something politicians should be deciding.

Viability. Done.

What about for medical reasons?

[Frisivisia]

Viability. Done.

What about for medical reasons?

Except for medical reasons. I thought that was implied because, you know, logic.

[Individuality-ness]

What about for medical reasons?

Except for medical reasons. I thought that was implied because, you know, logic.

Oh, but someone's going to bring it up.

[Edlichbury]

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that politicians should stop trying to ban or severely restrict abortion.

Not aimed at you particularly, but the image seemed a bit of an odd fit in the thread about restricting healthcare funding.

But on a side note, yes the legality of abortions and particularly what stage in the pregnancy they became illegal is something politicians should be deciding.

Why? What gives politicians the right to regulate medical procedures they literally do not and refuse to understand?

[Euronion]

My opinion of Wendy Davis? I think she is a horrible woman. I agreed with her on stopping cuts to Public Education but she filibustered a bill that had the potential to save the lives of babies. They are now going to go into a special legislative session where they will hopefully pass that bill. So yes, a horrible horrible woman, a horrible person, and I sincerely hope that she gets booted out of the Texas Senate when she is next up for re-election.

[Slazliyka]

Not aimed at you particularly, but the image seemed a bit of an odd fit in the thread about restricting healthcare funding.

But on a side note, yes the legality of abortions and particularly what stage in the pregnancy they became illegal is something politicians should be deciding.

Viability. Done.

I'd rather abortion be legal throughout the whole pregnancy, not just until viability.

[Revolutionarily]

proves that politics is a game and those people have got to be doing a lot of drugs to be able to sleep at night

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

My opinion of Wendy Davis? I think she is a horrible woman. I agreed with her on stopping cuts to Public Education but she filibustered a bill that had the potential to save the lives of babies. They are now going to go into a special legislative session where they will hopefully pass that bill. So yes, a horrible horrible woman, a horrible person, and I sincerely hope that she gets booted out of the Texas Senate when she is next up for re-election.

We're going to fight again for that bill to not pass, and I think she might just make governor.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

My opinion of Wendy Davis? I think she is a horrible woman. I agreed with her on stopping cuts to Public Education but she filibustered a bill that had the potential to save the lives of babies. They are now going to go into a special legislative session where they will hopefully pass that bill. So yes, a horrible horrible woman, a horrible person, and I sincerely hope that she gets booted out of the Texas Senate when she is next up for re-election.

It doesn't save the lives of babies. It saves the lives of parasites.

So, tell me, why is it that you have such a low regard for the intrinsic sanctity and value of human life, that you'd give a parasite legal priority over a person?

[Regnum Dominae]

Not aimed at you particularly, but the image seemed a bit of an odd fit in the thread about restricting healthcare funding.

But on a side note, yes the legality of abortions and particularly what stage in the pregnancy they became illegal is something politicians should be deciding.

Viability. Done.

Birth. Done.

[Regnum Dominae]

Viability. Done.

I'd rather abortion be legal throughout the whole pregnancy, not just until viability.

Agreed.

[Frisivisia]

Viability. Done.

Birth. Done.

Why? If it's viable outside of the womb, why kill it, other than for the life of the mother?

[Regnum Dominae]

Birth. Done.

Why? If it's viable outside of the womb, why kill it, other than for the life of the mother?

Bodily sovereignty, no ifs, no buts.

I think that if a woman has delayed an abortion for that long, she probably has a pretty good personal reason.

[Individuality-ness]

Viability. Done.

Birth. Done.

Abortion legal throughout the whole pregnancy, but live birth if possible starting from viability on. Better?

[Regnum Dominae]

Birth. Done.

Abortion legal throughout the whole pregnancy, but live birth if possible starting from viability on. Better?

Maybe, but I think that if a woman has waited THAT LONG to get an abortion, she probably has a pretty good reason, and most of the time that reason would prevent a live birth.

[Individuality-ness]

Abortion legal throughout the whole pregnancy, but live birth if possible starting from viability on. Better?

Maybe, but I think that if a woman has waited THAT LONG to get an abortion, she probably has a pretty good reason, and most of the time that reason would prevent a live birth.

I'm aware, hence "live birth if possible", which includes up to C-sections. Also, a lot of times, if a pregnancy is done that late, the fetus isn't viable at all, which pretty much solves that problem.

[Frisivisia]

Why? If it's viable outside of the womb, why kill it, other than for the life of the mother?

Bodily sovereignty, no ifs, no buts.

I think that if a woman has delayed an abortion for that long, she probably has a pretty good personal reason.

If you can give live birth, you should. At the point where the fetus is viable outside of the womb, it is entitled to take advantage of the viability, up until the point where the life of the mother is involved.

[Greed and Death]

Bodily sovereignty, no ifs, no buts.

I think that if a woman has delayed an abortion for that long, she probably has a pretty good personal reason.

If you can give live birth, you should. At the point where the fetus is viable outside of the womb, it is entitled to take advantage of the viability, up until the point where the life of the mother is involved.

point of viability is reasonable, of course with exception for the mother's life.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

If you can give live birth, you should. At the point where the fetus is viable outside of the womb, it is entitled to take advantage of the viability, up until the point where the life of the mother is involved.

point of viability is reasonable, of course with exception for the mother's life.

Agreed, though I sometimes go back and forth on the idea...

[Gauthier]

Why do I get this visualization of Republicans wishing babies were born like Chestbursters to fullfill their pro-life and slut-punishing fantasies at the same time?

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Why do I get this visualization of Republicans wishing babies were born like Chestbursters to fullfill their pro-life and slut-punishing fantasies at the same time?

Because it fucking is what some of them want. Rick Perry, for example, very much supports banning abortion even in the case that it kills the mother.