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Could a modern day dictatorship or Third Reich once rise again Europe?

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Jehuddah
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Postby Jehuddah » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:30 am

greed and death wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Interesting that you linked to the movie as opposed to the actual experiment it was based on.

Imagine if he had not terminated that experiment and it continued to spread.

California goes fascist by accident.

The Emperor Ron Jones. :lol:
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91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
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Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
Dislikes: Antisemitism, Anti Zionism, Anti-nationalism, civic nationalism, "Two states for two peoples", Bi-National solution, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:39 am

You mean could fascists rise once again? Possibly in the balkans, Hungary, or Greece, but it's unlikely.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:39 am

Diopolis wrote:You mean could fascists rise once again? Possibly in the balkans, Hungary, or Greece, but it's unlikely.

:palm: :palm: :palm:

Fascism is NOT National Socialism.
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Southern Babylonia
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:40 am

No, because it'd be the Fourth Reich.
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Greed and Death
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:41 am

Jehuddah wrote:
greed and death wrote:Imagine if he had not terminated that experiment and it continued to spread.

California goes fascist by accident.

The Emperor Ron Jones. :lol:

I did not mean to take over the state as furor, but since I am furor lets start laying down some rules or a disciplined and orderly society.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:47 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Diopolis wrote:You mean could fascists rise once again? Possibly in the balkans, Hungary, or Greece, but it's unlikely.

:palm: :palm: :palm:

Fascism is NOT National Socialism.

I know, but national socialism is fascism, and that's what the question usually means.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:50 am

Diopolis wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote: :palm: :palm: :palm:

Fascism is NOT National Socialism.

I know, but national socialism is fascism, and that's what the question usually means.

No it is not. Nein ist es nicht. No Fascist will say National Socialism is Fascist.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:52 am

Could it? Yes, and that's something we must always remember to guard against.

Will it? No.
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Postby Scholencia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:52 am

Maybe in Israel but in Europe no.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:53 am

Scholencia wrote:Maybe in Israel but in Europe no.

Nazis in Israel, how ironic.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:53 am

Scholencia wrote:Maybe in Israel but in Europe no.

How the fuck would a National Socialist state rise in fucking Israel?
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Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:54 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Maybe in Israel but in Europe no.

How the fuck would a National Socialist state rise in fucking Israel?

How is that impossible? Israel is lately a pretty crazy country as far as government goes. Of course, they won't call themselves Nazis.

They'll call themselves Likud.
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.
Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.
I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Jehuddah
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Postby Jehuddah » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:54 am

Scholencia wrote:Maybe in Israel but in Europe no.

Actually no.
I'm a supporter of Otzma Leyisrael, the radical Right-Wing party which wants to banish the Arabs, we didn't get a seat in the current Knesset (Last Knesset we had 2 seats). (There are 120 seats)
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Political test:
91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=241535&p=14484567#p14484567
Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
Dislikes: Antisemitism, Anti Zionism, Anti-nationalism, civic nationalism, "Two states for two peoples", Bi-National solution, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism
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Of the Free Socialist Territories
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:54 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Maybe in Israel but in Europe no.

How the fuck would a National Socialist state rise in fucking Israel?


[insert ultranationalist diatribe about Arabs here]
Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Jehuddah
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Postby Jehuddah » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:55 am

Arglorand wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:How the fuck would a National Socialist state rise in fucking Israel?

How is that impossible? Israel is lately a pretty crazy country as far as government goes. Of course, they won't call themselves Nazis.

They'll call themselves Likud.

Are you serious? Likud=Conservative UK party.
Last edited by John of Giscala on Wed May 2, 68 19:32 pm, edited 3546 times in total.

Political test:
91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=241535&p=14484567#p14484567
Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
Dislikes: Antisemitism, Anti Zionism, Anti-nationalism, civic nationalism, "Two states for two peoples", Bi-National solution, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:55 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I know, but national socialism is fascism, and that's what the question usually means.

No it is not. Nein ist es nicht. No Fascist will say National Socialism is Fascist.

The fascists are wrong. National socialism is a form of fascism, just like juche is a form of stalinism.
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Jehuddah
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Postby Jehuddah » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:55 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:How the fuck would a National Socialist state rise in fucking Israel?


[insert ultranationalist diatribe about Arabs here]

Nah, I don't hate Arabs..... as long as they're not in Israel.
Last edited by John of Giscala on Wed May 2, 68 19:32 pm, edited 3546 times in total.

Political test:
91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=241535&p=14484567#p14484567
Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
Dislikes: Antisemitism, Anti Zionism, Anti-nationalism, civic nationalism, "Two states for two peoples", Bi-National solution, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism
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Of the Free Socialist Territories
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:56 am

Diopolis wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:No it is not. Nein ist es nicht. No Fascist will say National Socialism is Fascist.

The fascists are wrong. National socialism is a form of fascism, just like juche is a form of stalinism.


Juche isn't a form of Stalinism. I don't quite know what I'd call it, beyond totalitarian crypto-monarchism, but it isn't Stalinism. Particularly as the DPRK officially gave up on Marxism-Leninism a while back.
Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:56 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Maybe in Israel but in Europe no.

How the fuck would a National Socialist state rise in fucking Israel?

Jehuddah
Check out his sig.
Likes: Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Authoritarian government
Sounds familiar.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:57 am

Diopolis wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:No it is not. Nein ist es nicht. No Fascist will say National Socialism is Fascist.

The fascists are wrong. National socialism is a form of fascism, just like juche is a form of stalinism.

We are not wrong. National Socialism is completely different from Fascism and only Wikipedia calls National Socialism to be Fascist.
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Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
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Anti-Republican on government,
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Jehuddah
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Postby Jehuddah » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:57 am

Genivaria wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:How the fuck would a National Socialist state rise in fucking Israel?

Jehuddah
Check out his sig.
Likes: Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Authoritarian government
Sounds familiar.

I don't hate Arabs. I KNOW an Arab (Went to a party of his), I just want them out of here.
Last edited by Jehuddah on Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
Last edited by John of Giscala on Wed May 2, 68 19:32 pm, edited 3546 times in total.

Political test:
91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=241535&p=14484567#p14484567
Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
Dislikes: Antisemitism, Anti Zionism, Anti-nationalism, civic nationalism, "Two states for two peoples", Bi-National solution, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:57 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
[insert ultranationalist diatribe about Arabs here]

Nah, I don't hate Arabs..... as long as they're not in Israel.

I don't hate Jews...as long as they're not in Germany.
Completely different right?
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Jehuddah
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Postby Jehuddah » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:59 am

Genivaria wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:Nah, I don't hate Arabs..... as long as they're not in Israel.

I don't hate Jews...as long as they're not in Germany.
Completely different right?

Actually Hitler wanted to murder us worldwide, see Wansee protocols.
Last edited by Jehuddah on Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
Last edited by John of Giscala on Wed May 2, 68 19:32 pm, edited 3546 times in total.

Political test:
91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=241535&p=14484567#p14484567
Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
Dislikes: Antisemitism, Anti Zionism, Anti-nationalism, civic nationalism, "Two states for two peoples", Bi-National solution, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:59 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Diopolis wrote:The fascists are wrong. National socialism is a form of fascism, just like juche is a form of stalinism.


Juche isn't a form of Stalinism. I don't quite know what I'd call it, beyond totalitarian crypto-monarchism, but it isn't Stalinism. Particularly as the DPRK officially gave up on Marxism-Leninism a while back.

My mistake. I'm not super well versed in the different "communist" ideologies.
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Postby Murray land » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:00 pm

A modern day third reich? Nothing is impossible. I know the political situation in certain European countries is slightly unstable. But I'd need to do some research. But a full on genocidal warmachine? I wouldn't put my money on it now or in the next 15 years.
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