US Gun Control (Yes, again).

[Big Jim P]

Well of course they're not banning all guns completely. That's just obvious, and its not even necessary to ask. In fact, what they're trying to do is less than most countries have.

They can't unless they amend the constitution, which wouldn't fly. I don't support any of the efforts the gun control lobby is putting forth. The horrible sad truth is that they can't even enforce the laws and restrictions they have in place now, let alone all the other ones they are proposing, especially regarding "high powered assault weapons" and "High Capacity Magazines".

High powered assault rifles. Another example of the gun-control crowds ignorance.

[Hornesia]

The Newtown shooter had no history of mental issues before the shooting besides Aspergers. You call that a condition that is worthy of not only blocking you from buying a gun but your entire family?

The guns of the Newtown shooter were purchased by his mother, IIRC.

I was replying to someone who suggested that they should consider your family when buying a gun.

[Republik auf Texas]

Jassyworth
It's simple... 2nd Amendment needs to go then. No big deal... right?

I mean the rest of the developed world (Japan, France, Italy etc) seem to be doing very well and are perfectly fine and safe (without high gun crimes) without this stupid thing called... the 2nd Amendment.

Quite frankly, the whole 2nd Amendment has done nothing except condemn a ton of innocent schoolchildren and civilians to die by gunfire...


Please move to the UK or AUS because YOU don't belong in my nation....

[Hornesia]

That would be great!

I guess that American History buffs won't have the same opinion of it.

Dude, I'm a civil war reenactor and that's fucking awesome.

[Big Jim P]

No, the chance of getting shot by an assault rifle is greater than attacked by a shark (but then, most dangerous things are more likely than shark attacks).

Like hell. Do you understand how regulated Real Assault riles are? For starter's they are Class 3, And second they cost in excess of 15GRAND

And if that doesn't bankrupt you, ammo costs will. These things are rich peoples toys.

[Republik auf Texas]

They can't unless they amend the constitution, which wouldn't fly. I don't support any of the efforts the gun control lobby is putting forth. The horrible sad truth is that they can't even enforce the laws and restrictions they have in place now, let alone all the other ones they are proposing, especially regarding "high powered assault weapons" and "High Capacity Magazines".

High powered assault rifles. Another example of the gun-control crowds ignorance.

Big JIM your my new favorite person!

[Eliasonia]

They can't unless they amend the constitution, which wouldn't fly. I don't support any of the efforts the gun control lobby is putting forth. The horrible sad truth is that they can't even enforce the laws and restrictions they have in place now, let alone all the other ones they are proposing, especially regarding "high powered assault weapons" and "High Capacity Magazines".

High powered assault rifles. Another example of the gun-control crowds ignorance.

It's really rather sad that they can get away with making up an entirely non existant classification of weapon and still have people fall for it.

[Agritum]

I guess that American History buffs won't have the same opinion of it.

Dude, I'm a civil war reenactor and that's fucking awesome.

Ok, then we have the buff's blessing

[Yes Im Biop]

Like hell. Do you understand how regulated Real Assault riles are? For starter's they are Class 3, And second they cost in excess of 15GRAND

Do you know how rare shark attacks are? A hundred a year, worldwide, and only seventeen people a year are killed by shark attacks. More people are killed in wars every hour than are killed by shark attacks in a year.

DO you know how many Homicides have involved Class 3 weapons Since 1934? 3. That's 3 in what? 80 or so years...Come on math work for me!.
One was by a Cop.

[Hornesia]

Not to mention that the designation of assault weapon was created when assault rifles were already illegal, and is based purely on cosmetic features.

[Ifreann]

Liar.

Really is that why 4 of friends which I know 1 from Scotland 3 from the UK have been JAILED FOR A KNIFE the 2 had a BUTTER KNIFE and other had a simple POCKET KNIFE 1 was a dam farmer.

I don't believe you. I think you're lying.

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High powered assault rifles. Another example of the gun-control crowds ignorance.

It's really rather sad that they can get away with making up an entirely non existant classification of weapon and still have people fall for it.

You'd swear that they think gun classifications are entirely artificial things that we can make up as and how it suits.

Shit, that's true though, isn't it?

[Yes Im Biop]

Like hell. Do you understand how regulated Real Assault riles are? For starter's they are Class 3, And second they cost in excess of 15GRAND

And if that doesn't bankrupt you, ammo costs will. These things are rich peoples toys.

I know. I WANT MONEY JIM!


WAIT! Jim does that mean I can buy an Assault Car?

[Uieurnthlaal]

Good. The bureaucracy mean that people will think twice about buying guns on a whim, decreasing the amount of guns being purchased. And, if we have stringent tests for cars, why not have stringent tests for guns, which are far more dangerous? And add in a background check, not just of the person, but also of the family, to avoid instances like the Newtown shooting. And about "to powerful", I'm talking about semi-automatic rifles, or high capacity rifles. Did you know that it's completely possible to walk into a texas gun show and buy an AR15 without any background checks, waiting period, or identification of any kind?

1. Bureaucracy would more likely affect the business selling weapons, ie skipping out on them to turn a quicker profit.

2. There are more tests for guns than cars.

3. Semi auto's are "too powerful?" So weapons such as all standard handguns and many modern hunting rifles which fire one shot per trigger pull are excessive?

4. AR15 really isn't as powerful a weapon as the media likes to portray. The thing with the AR 15 is that it looks "scary" and looks like a military grade weapon, thus making it an easy target. The 5.56 mm it fires is a small round, the muzzle velocity makes it med to low powered at best, not "high powered" like the media like to claim, and it's also honestly a POS that jams a lot.

1. We would enforce the law extensively, than. When so many people's lives are at stake, and many of these guns being sold will end up in the hands of criminals, we can't afford to skimp on enforcement.
2. There are fewer tests on gun owners than there are on car owners. To get a car, you must be of age and pass a test. To get a gun, you must appear to be of age, and that's it.
3. Semi auto's may fire one shot per trigger, but there's no need to reload after each shot. That's the difference. Semi-automatic weapons are completely unnecessary for self defense or for hunting, and they just give criminals more people to shoot.
4. The AR15 is semi automatic. I don't care what it looks like, people have no need for semi-automatic weapons, they just allow people (including criminals) to shoot much faster.

[Yes Im Biop]

1. Bureaucracy would more likely affect the business selling weapons, ie skipping out on them to turn a quicker profit.

2. There are more tests for guns than cars.

3. Semi auto's are "too powerful?" So weapons such as all standard handguns and many modern hunting rifles which fire one shot per trigger pull are excessive?

4. AR15 really isn't as powerful a weapon as the media likes to portray. The thing with the AR 15 is that it looks "scary" and looks like a military grade weapon, thus making it an easy target. The 5.56 mm it fires is a small round, the muzzle velocity makes it med to low powered at best, not "high powered" like the media like to claim, and it's also honestly a POS that jams a lot.

1. We would enforce the law extensively, than. When so many people's lives are at stake, and many of these guns being sold will end up in the hands of criminals, we can't afford to skimp on enforcement.
2. There are fewer tests on gun owners than there are on car owners. To get a car, you must be of age and pass a test. To get a gun, you must appear to be of age, and that's it.
3. Semi auto's may fire one shot per trigger, but there's no need to reload after each shot. That's the difference. Semi-automatic weapons are completely unnecessary for self defense or for hunting, and they just give criminals more people to shoot.
4. The AR15 is semi automatic. I don't care what it looks like, people have no need for semi-automatic weapons, they just allow people (including criminals) to shoot much faster.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You have never been hunting. EVER.

[Republik auf Texas]

Really is that why 4 of friends which I know 1 from Scotland 3 from the UK have been JAILED FOR A KNIFE the 2 had a BUTTER KNIFE and other had a simple POCKET KNIFE 1 was a dam farmer.

I don't believe you. I think you're lying.

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It's really rather sad that they can get away with making up an entirely non existant classification of weapon and still have people fall for it.

You'd swear that they think gun classifications are entirely artificial things that we can make up as and how it suits.

Shit, that's true though, isn't it?[/qu


leave my nation.

[Hornesia]

1. Bureaucracy would more likely affect the business selling weapons, ie skipping out on them to turn a quicker profit.

2. There are more tests for guns than cars.

3. Semi auto's are "too powerful?" So weapons such as all standard handguns and many modern hunting rifles which fire one shot per trigger pull are excessive?

4. AR15 really isn't as powerful a weapon as the media likes to portray. The thing with the AR 15 is that it looks "scary" and looks like a military grade weapon, thus making it an easy target. The 5.56 mm it fires is a small round, the muzzle velocity makes it med to low powered at best, not "high powered" like the media like to claim, and it's also honestly a POS that jams a lot.

1. We would enforce the law extensively, than. When so many people's lives are at stake, and many of these guns being sold will end up in the hands of criminals, we can't afford to skimp on enforcement.
2. There are fewer tests on gun owners than there are on car owners. To get a car, you must be of age and pass a test. To get a gun, you must appear to be of age, and that's it.
3. Semi auto's may fire one shot per trigger, but there's no need to reload after each shot. That's the difference. Semi-automatic weapons are completely unnecessary for self defense or for hunting, and they just give criminals more people to shoot.
4. The AR15 is semi automatic. I don't care what it looks like, people have no need for semi-automatic weapons, they just allow people (including criminals) to shoot much faster.

Oh, really?
So you're telling me These people didn't need their guns?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzkBGQx3HAc

[Big Jim P]

High powered assault rifles. Another example of the gun-control crowds ignorance.

It's really rather sad that they can get away with making up an entirely non existant classification of weapon and still have people fall for it.

Then they up the scare factor by calling them "high powered" when a .223 or 7.62 soviet round are seriously under-powered when compared to such hunting rounds as the 30-06.

Actually, I think I will quit referring to the gun-control crowd as ignorant. Willful ignorance in the face of easily available information is stupidity. Plain and simple.

[Uieurnthlaal]

Do you know how rare shark attacks are? A hundred a year, worldwide, and only seventeen people a year are killed by shark attacks. More people are killed in wars every hour than are killed by shark attacks in a year.

DO you know how many Homicides have involved Class 3 weapons Since 1934? 3. That's 3 in what? 80 or so years...Come on math work for me!.
One was by a Cop.

Source? The US had eight shark deaths in the past century. Most causes of deaths are more likely than shark attacks.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Really is that why 4 of friends which I know 1 from Scotland 3 from the UK have been JAILED FOR A KNIFE the 2 had a BUTTER KNIFE and other had a simple POCKET KNIFE 1 was a dam farmer.

I don't believe you. I think you're lying.

They were thinking about reinstating the death penalty.

[Big Jim P]

And if that doesn't bankrupt you, ammo costs will. These things are rich peoples toys.

I know. I WANT MONEY JIM!


WAIT! Jim does that mean I can buy an Assault Car?

A Hummer is an assault car. So is a Jeep. Gotta ban them.

[Eliasonia]

1. Bureaucracy would more likely affect the business selling weapons, ie skipping out on them to turn a quicker profit.

2. There are more tests for guns than cars.

3. Semi auto's are "too powerful?" So weapons such as all standard handguns and many modern hunting rifles which fire one shot per trigger pull are excessive?

4. AR15 really isn't as powerful a weapon as the media likes to portray. The thing with the AR 15 is that it looks "scary" and looks like a military grade weapon, thus making it an easy target. The 5.56 mm it fires is a small round, the muzzle velocity makes it med to low powered at best, not "high powered" like the media like to claim, and it's also honestly a POS that jams a lot.

1. We would enforce the law extensively, than. When so many people's lives are at stake, and many of these guns being sold will end up in the hands of criminals, we can't afford to skimp on enforcement.
2. There are fewer tests on gun owners than there are on car owners. To get a car, you must be of age and pass a test. To get a gun, you must appear to be of age, and that's it.
3. Semi auto's may fire one shot per trigger, but there's no need to reload after each shot. That's the difference. Semi-automatic weapons are completely unnecessary for self defense or for hunting, and they just give criminals more people to shoot.
4. The AR15 is semi automatic. I don't care what it looks like, people have no need for semi-automatic weapons, they just allow people (including criminals) to shoot much faster.

1. How do you propose to do so in a practical sense?

2. Where do you live? I need to move ASAP if that's true.

3&4. So we go back to 18th century muskets and flintlocks then? Good luck going on a hunting trip or defending yourself from an attacker with a weapon that fires 2-3 shots per min.

[Yes Im Biop]

It's really rather sad that they can get away with making up an entirely non existant classification of weapon and still have people fall for it.

Then they up the scare factor by calling them "high powered" when a .223 or 7.62 soviet round are seriously under-powered when compared to such hunting rounds as the 30-06.

Actually, I think I will quit referring to the gun-control crowd as ignorant. Willful ignorance in the face of easily available information is stupidity. Plain and simple.

Let alone the fact you can buy a 20mm Rifle (Though if you can afford it you can afford a Class3)

[Uieurnthlaal]

1. We would enforce the law extensively, than. When so many people's lives are at stake, and many of these guns being sold will end up in the hands of criminals, we can't afford to skimp on enforcement.
2. There are fewer tests on gun owners than there are on car owners. To get a car, you must be of age and pass a test. To get a gun, you must appear to be of age, and that's it.
3. Semi auto's may fire one shot per trigger, but there's no need to reload after each shot. That's the difference. Semi-automatic weapons are completely unnecessary for self defense or for hunting, and they just give criminals more people to shoot.
4. The AR15 is semi automatic. I don't care what it looks like, people have no need for semi-automatic weapons, they just allow people (including criminals) to shoot much faster.

Oh, really?
So you're telling me These people didn't need their guns?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzkBGQx3HAc

Wait, what? I never said anything about banning guns altogether.
I said that guns have very little regulation when it comes to purchase, and that semi-automatic weapons can be purchased on a whim. And you show me a clip of people standing on a roof holding guns to hold back a crowd, claiming that that negates all my points. Of course, we can't ban all guns. I'm just suggesting we get rid of semi-automatic weapons. Non-automatic weapons would do just fine.

[Big Jim P]

High powered assault rifles. Another example of the gun-control crowds ignorance.

Big JIM your my new favorite person!

I am honored.

[Yes Im Biop]

I know. I WANT MONEY JIM!


WAIT! Jim does that mean I can buy an Assault Car?

A Hummer is an assault car. So is a Jeep. Gotta ban them.

True, Jim can you remember the source for Class 3 Homicides? I Can't find it in my bookmarks.