US Gun Control (Yes, again).

[Sociobiology]

actually small rural communities have higher per capita gun crime rates so you are more likely to be a victim of a gun crime in these places, in straight numbers of course urban areas have more gun crime they have many more people, but the rates are lower.
Think of it like pets the rate for dog ownership is higher in rural Kansas even thought there are far more dogs in New York city.

As per what source?

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/usrv98.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447364/pdf/0921988.pdf

Given the difference in homicide rate it is not really surprising since ~70% of homicides use a firearm, and gun ownership is higher in rural areas, it is nearly impossible for rural areas to not have a higher firearm homicide rate.

[Chernoslavia]

And I think this is one of the issues in the gun control debate, and correct me if I'm wrong. Those in smaller communities, specially in more rural areas, have less to fear from gun violence then those in more urban, populated areas. And as shown above, those tend to be where gun crime happens more, and statistically, where people tend to be more liberal. Thus why you see the divide IMO.

actually small rural communities have higher per capita gun crime rates so you are more likely to be a victim of a gun crime in these places, in straight numbers of course urban areas have more gun crime they have many more people, but the rates are lower.
Think of it like pets the rate for dog ownership is higher in rural Kansas even thought there are far more dogs in New York city.

Thats the dumbest shit Ive ever heard.I live in a rural area and the only gunshots I hear are my own and of my 'friends' which are being fired at wooden planks and soda cans.

[Vazdania]

actually small rural communities have higher per capita gun crime rates so you are more likely to be a victim of a gun crime in these places, in straight numbers of course urban areas have more gun crime they have many more people, but the rates are lower.
Think of it like pets the rate for dog ownership is higher in rural Kansas even thought there are far more dogs in New York city.

Thats the dumbest shit Ive ever heard.I live in a rural area and the only gunshots I hear are my own and of my 'friends' which are being fired at wooden planks and soda cans.

the truth in this

[NERVUN]

They cause cosmetic injury to the target when used correctly. Still an injury, albeit one to an inanimate object.

Oh, fuck off.

*** Three day ban for flaming ***.

[Agritum]

Again, meaningless without context. What is the per capita ownership of guns to gun deaths as opposed to cars to auto accidents?

Boy I have to spell this out don't I. Higher crimes and deaths will occur in urban areas no matter what. It is inevitable. The chance of you getting shot by an assault rifle is less than you being attacked by a shark. You have more of a chance of dying in a car accident than being killed by some lunatic has an illegally owned fire arm. So I don;t see what difference it would make if you increase gun laws. Because criminals don't follow laws.

I'm no anti-gun, but I'd just like to say: by your reasoning, if criminals break laws, why do we have them at all?

[Ascelonia]

Clearly because handguns and tools kill more people than semi-automatic rifles we should have absolutely *no* regulations on semi-automatic rifles whatsoever.

The point.

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Your head.

[Jassysworth 1]

we should get rid of all the guns in America so the possibility of people going on mass shooting rampages against neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals is completely removed...

But it'll never happen because the NRA has just brainwashed way too many Americans (at least enough to make sure shootings will keep happening and a ton of guns keep floating around).

AND a lot of people care more about their personal possessions over the good and safety of the nation... Thankfully this is a US-Only problem. The rest of the world has long moved on and for the most part almost completely banned guns... hope America gets there someday.

[Eliasonia]

we should get rid of all the guns in America so the possibility of people going on mass shooting rampages against neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals is completely removed...

But it'll never happen because the NRA has just brainwashed way too many Americans (at least enough to make sure shootings will keep happening and a ton of guns keep floating around).

AND a lot of people care more about their personal possessions over the good and safety of the nation... Thankfully this is a US-Only problem. The rest of the world has long moved on and for the most part almost completely banned guns... hope America gets there someday.

No we shouldn't.

Also, good luck disarming 300 million people, just saying "guns banned now guys mmkay?" isn't going to do that for you.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Just ban the guns and the issue will disappear...

no more gun violence
no more debates about gun registration since they are all illegal
America is safer

problem solved

No. kthanxbai.

[Agritum]

we should get rid of all the guns in America so the possibility of people going on mass shooting rampages against neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals is completely removed...

But it'll never happen because the NRA has just brainwashed way too many Americans (at least enough to make sure shootings will keep happening and a ton of guns keep floating around).

AND a lot of people care more about their personal possessions over the good and safety of the nation... Thankfully this is a US-Only problem. The rest of the world has long moved on and for the most part almost completely banned guns... hope America gets there someday.

No we shouldn't.

Also, good luck disarming 300 million people, just saying "guns banned now guys mmkay?" isn't going to do that for you.

Openly banning guns would be an absurd violation of the 2nd Amendment, and it would do no good to the public standing of the government, to boot.

[Eliasonia]

No we shouldn't.

Also, good luck disarming 300 million people, just saying "guns banned now guys mmkay?" isn't going to do that for you.

Openly banning guns would be an absurd violation of the 2nd Amendment, and it would do no good to the public standing of the government, to boot.

The government can't afford for it's public standing to get any lower. Isn't congresses' approval rating still down around 14%?

[Meritocratic States]

Oh god, this shit again?

Honestly, these gun control issue is pointless and is completely missing who is needed to be controlled.

The People Using Guns.

They need to be educated on using guns, they need to have gun vaults, they need gun registration.

That's where you Americans need to do, get rid of the people using guns irresponsibly and lock them away.

[Agritum]

Openly banning guns would be an absurd violation of the 2nd Amendment, and it would do no good to the public standing of the government, to boot.

The government can't afford for it's public standing to get any lower. Isn't congresses' approval rating still down around 14%?

I don't know, but no sane politician in the US would try to outright ban guns. The backslash from the NRA and similar groups would be absurd.

[Lemanrussland]

The government can't afford for it's public standing to get any lower. Isn't congresses' approval rating still down around 14%?

I don't know, but no sane politician in the US would try to outright ban guns. The backslash from the NRA and similar groups would be absurd.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were outbursts of violence. Those "SHTF is coming, those gun-grabbers can grab my guns out of my cold, dead hands" types are already on edge.

[Big Jim P]

The government can't afford for it's public standing to get any lower. Isn't congresses' approval rating still down around 14%?

I don't know, but no sane politician in the US would try to outright ban guns. The backslash from the NRA and similar groups would be absurd.

An outright ban would be unconstitutional. That is why the gun-control lobby is going after our rights piecemeal: they know they cannot get enough support to amend the Constitution.

[Eliasonia]

I don't know, but no sane politician in the US would try to outright ban guns. The backslash from the NRA and similar groups would be absurd.

An outright ban would be unconstitutional. That is why the gun-control lobby is going after our rights piecemeal: they know they cannot get enough support to amend the Constitution.

Exactly.

[Big Jim P]

An outright ban would be unconstitutional. That is why the gun-control lobby is going after our rights piecemeal: they know they cannot get enough support to amend the Constitution.

Exactly.

On a good note, with more and more States liberalizing their gun laws, and gun manufacturers moving to less restrictive States and/or making gun-control States conform to the same purchase restrictions as their citizens, the gun-control lobby is losing ground.

[Uieurnthlaal]

actually small rural communities have higher per capita gun crime rates so you are more likely to be a victim of a gun crime in these places, in straight numbers of course urban areas have more gun crime they have many more people, but the rates are lower.
Think of it like pets the rate for dog ownership is higher in rural Kansas even thought there are far more dogs in New York city.

Thats the dumbest shit Ive ever heard.I live in a rural area and the only gunshots I hear are my own and of my 'friends' which are being fired at wooden planks and soda cans.

Well of course. Gun deaths are higher in rural areas, but rural areas are all extremely spread out. So of course you won't hear crime related gun shots often, but what you hear in a few hundred acres makes no difference as to what happens in the rest of america.

[Uieurnthlaal]

An outright ban would be unconstitutional. That is why the gun-control lobby is going after our rights piecemeal: they know they cannot get enough support to amend the Constitution.

Exactly.

Well of course they're not banning all guns completely. That's just obvious, and its not even necessary to ask. In fact, what they're trying to do is less than most countries have.

[Eliasonia]

Exactly.

On a good note, with more and more States liberalizing their gun laws, and gun manufacturers moving to less restrictive States and/or making gun-control States conform to the same purchase restrictions as their citizens, the gun-control lobby is losing ground.

Too bad my home state of MA can't jump on that bandwagon.

[Eliasonia]

Exactly.

Well of course they're not banning all guns completely. That's just obvious, and its not even necessary to ask. In fact, what they're trying to do is less than most countries have.

They can't unless they amend the constitution, which wouldn't fly. I don't support any of the efforts the gun control lobby is putting forth. The horrible sad truth is that they can't even enforce the laws and restrictions they have in place now, let alone all the other ones they are proposing, especially regarding "high powered assault weapons" and "High Capacity Magazines".

[DuThaal Craftworld]

we should get rid of all the guns in America so the possibility of people going on mass shooting rampages against neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals is completely removed...

But it'll never happen because the NRA has just brainwashed way too many Americans (at least enough to make sure shootings will keep happening and a ton of guns keep floating around).

AND a lot of people care more about their personal possessions over the good and safety of the nation... Thankfully this is a US-Only problem. The rest of the world has long moved on and for the most part almost completely banned guns... hope America gets there someday.

This is why you don't do drugs, kids.

[Uieurnthlaal]

Well of course they're not banning all guns completely. That's just obvious, and its not even necessary to ask. In fact, what they're trying to do is less than most countries have.

They can't unless they amend the constitution, which wouldn't fly. I don't support any of the efforts the gun control lobby is putting forth. The horrible sad truth is that they can't even enforce the laws and restrictions they have in place now, let alone all the other ones they are proposing, especially regarding "high powered assault weapons" and "High Capacity Magazines".

That's the point. What the new laws are supposed to do, is not only ban the unnecessarily powerful guns, but also fully enforce a universal background check (which, because of the gun show loophole, is not being enforced).

[Uieurnthlaal]

we should get rid of all the guns in America so the possibility of people going on mass shooting rampages against neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals is completely removed...

But it'll never happen because the NRA has just brainwashed way too many Americans (at least enough to make sure shootings will keep happening and a ton of guns keep floating around).

AND a lot of people care more about their personal possessions over the good and safety of the nation... Thankfully this is a US-Only problem. The rest of the world has long moved on and for the most part almost completely banned guns... hope America gets there someday.

This is why you don't do drugs, kids.

This is why, when shown to be wrong, these gun-control opponents come up with nothing but unrelated rants or ad hominem attacks.

[Jassysworth 1]

we should get rid of all the guns in America so the possibility of people going on mass shooting rampages against neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals is completely removed...

But it'll never happen because the NRA has just brainwashed way too many Americans (at least enough to make sure shootings will keep happening and a ton of guns keep floating around).

AND a lot of people care more about their personal possessions over the good and safety of the nation... Thankfully this is a US-Only problem. The rest of the world has long moved on and for the most part almost completely banned guns... hope America gets there someday.

This is why you don't do drugs, kids.

I don't ''do drugs'' (do you mean ''take recreational drugs''? Again that would still be a No).