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Met Police in hot water over smear attempt claims

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:46 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23026324

Ultimately, the attempt to smear the Lawrence family failed, but I think this could destroy the Metropolitan Police big time. My initial thought is whether this could lead the Metropolitan Police to be split up to do away with the bitter legacy?

Oh, and Cameron isn't happy at that either and the IPCC has been informed.

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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:05 am

I severely doubt that "Met exceptionally racist and corrupt" is going to do anything more to destroy this time than it has any other time.

Oh no, not the IPCC. They will be shaking in their boots.
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Postby Mushet » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:09 am

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:12 am

I was expecting some punny story from the title, I'm as disappointed as anyone who thinks things will change due to this revelation other than some token action.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:18 am

Speaking of "too big to fail", I wasn't initially expecting News of the World to fail when that scandal broke (more likely, mass sackings).
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Postby Tubbsalot » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:23 am

So just to be clear here, the IPCC is the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change?
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:26 am

Tubbsalot wrote:So just to be clear here, the IPCC is the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change?

Jack Straw has passed on the allegations to the Independent Police Complaints Commission, widely known here in the UK as the IPCC.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:26 am

I agree with Charlotte Ryberg, I think evidence that the Met not only collaborated with the attackers in a racially motivated murder, but also spyed on the victims family in an effort to get leverage is going to have a big impact. There are already ructions over the use of undercover officers in that period (an undercover policeman helped write the McLibel leaflet, another helped plan an anti nuclear power protest). The Mets involvement in selling information to newspapers that could be used in illegal phone tapping. The failures of the police in the Jimmy Saville case. The conflict between Cameron and the police over handling of the last lot of riots. Police anger over pay and conditions. Plebgate...

The stage is pretty much set for a conflict between the police and the government.
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Postby Battenburgia » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:28 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:I agree with Charlotte Ryberg, I think evidence that the Met not only collaborated with the attackers in a racially motivated murder, but also spyed on the victims family in an effort to get leverage is going to have a big impact. There are already ructions over the use of undercover officers in that period (an undercover policeman helped write the McLibel leaflet, another helped plan an anti nuclear power protest). The Mets involvement in selling information to newspapers that could be used in illegal phone tapping. The failures of the police in the Jimmy Saville case. The conflict between Cameron and the police over handling of the last lot of riots. Police anger over pay and conditions. Plebgate...

The stage is pretty much set for a conflict between the police and the government.


unfortunately I won't be holding my breath...there''ll be a lot of for show kerfuffle to protect the government, a token sacking, and then it will be swept back under the carpet. As long as the Met keeps acting as the government boot boys when required, and carry on keeping down anti-governmental political dissent, they will be allowed to get away with murder..sometimes literally.

However this case does highlight why we need all those whistleblowers who bring to light the extent of government's spying on individuals. To those who say, "if you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to worry about" when our personal freedoms are further invaded.....this is the sort of thing that can and does happen to innocent people who might not have done anything wrong apart from having an awkward perspective on government or police corruption.

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:04 am

Battenburgia wrote:
unfortunately I won't be holding my breath...there''ll be a lot of for show kerfuffle to protect the government, a token sacking, and then it will be swept back under the carpet. As long as the Met keeps acting as the government boot boys when required, and carry on keeping down anti-governmental political dissent, they will be allowed to get away with murder..sometimes literally.

However this case does highlight why we need all those whistleblowers who bring to light the extent of government's spying on individuals. To those who say, "if you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to worry about" when our personal freedoms are further invaded.....this is the sort of thing that can and does happen to innocent people who might not have done anything wrong apart from having an awkward perspective on government or police corruption.


I kind of had the general strike of 1926 in my mind, where the issue of which side the police would be on was a real issue for the government of the time.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:50 am

Theresa May - "We must be ruthless in purging wrongdoing and corruption from police"

What a contrast to the past, but pretty reactionary as well

The police is serious business, and the slacking out in that era is coming back against them, and despite major changes, the consequences could be fatal as far as the present structure of the Met is concerned.

For the purpose of this topic, the Met refers to the Metropolitan Police.

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Postby Olivaero » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:55 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Theresa May - "We must be ruthless in purging wrongdoing and corruption from police"

What a contrast to the past, but pretty reactionary as well

The police is serious business, and the slacking out in that era is coming back against them, and despite major changes, the consequences could be fatal as far as the present structure of the Met is concerned.

For the purpose of this topic, the Met refers to the Metropolitan Police.

The Met is involved in scandals fairly regularly, I really wouldn't hold your breath. Just like police forces all over the world, they're really good at covering their tracks and obscuring who did what.
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Postby The Whispers » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:59 am

I can't wait for an inquiry on this to resolve everything.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:12 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Theresa May - "We must be ruthless in purging wrongdoing and corruption from police"

What a contrast to the past, but pretty reactionary as well

The police is serious business, and the slacking out in that era is coming back against them, and despite major changes, the consequences could be fatal as far as the present structure of the Met is concerned.

For the purpose of this topic, the Met refers to the Metropolitan Police.


They've had twenty years, I wouldn't hold my breath. sad truth is Andrew Mitchells bicycle did more damage to government/police relations than any of the deeply disgusting stories that have come out.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:15 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Theresa May - "We must be ruthless in purging wrongdoing and corruption from police"

What a contrast to the past, but pretty reactionary as well

The police is serious business, and the slacking out in that era is coming back against them, and despite major changes, the consequences could be fatal as far as the present structure of the Met is concerned.

For the purpose of this topic, the Met refers to the Metropolitan Police.

The Met is involved in scandals fairly regularly, I really wouldn't hold your breath. Just like police forces all over the world, they're really good at covering their tracks and obscuring who did what.

For crying out loud the LAPD is still around in the US.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:44 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Theresa May - "We must be ruthless in purging wrongdoing and corruption from police"

What a contrast to the past, but pretty reactionary as well

The police is serious business, and the slacking out in that era is coming back against them, and despite major changes, the consequences could be fatal as far as the present structure of the Met is concerned.

For the purpose of this topic, the Met refers to the Metropolitan Police.


They've had twenty years, I wouldn't hold my breath. sad truth is Andrew Mitchells bicycle did more damage to government/police relations than any of the deeply disgusting stories that have come out.

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