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Postby Dakini » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:31 pm

Autismiah wrote:
Condunum wrote:So simply having had sex once before = promiscuous hedonist? Nice.


Most people who've had sex with more than one person have had sex with multiple people; generally, people don't stop at 2 and then get married to the person they had sex with second. Most either keep their virginity or are promiscuous.

Oh look, more proof that you have no clue what you're talking about.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:31 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Even more so for me... Especially when you consider the fact that I'm a parent...

Immaculate conception?

:lol2:
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:31 pm

Autismiah wrote:
Condunum wrote:So simply having had sex once before = promiscuous hedonist? Nice.


Most people who've had sex with more than one person have had sex with multiple people; generally, people don't stop at 2 and then get married to the person they had sex with second. Most either keep their virginity or are promiscuous.

It's not my fault you put your foot in your mouth:
Autismiah wrote:I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.
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Postby Autismiah » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:32 pm

Dakini wrote:
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Or maybe she'll go crazy from getting married and kill everyone!

I hold a respect for marriage, and I don't think a promiscuous person would do.

Given your definition of "promiscuous" and the existence of people in this very thread who are currently happily married and were once "promiscuous" by your definition, I'm going to go with "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about" on this one.



The definition according to the Oxford Dictionary and literally every other dictionary too.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:32 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Stop projecting your failures onto everyone else, thanks.

How is it my failure if some people can't grow-up?

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:32 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:Actually, what happened there was that Uranus's balls got cut off, his genitals fell into the sea, and up came Venus.

Ah, I forgot the castration part for that one.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:32 pm

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Your analogy is WAAAAY off, considering you can nonviolently and passively kill someone in many, many ways.


Yes, you can. You can also be promiscuous and not be hedonistic, but it's difficult and the majority of people whom are one of those things would be the other.


... Are we supposed to buy that you're such a vagina-conquering Alexander The Great that you're an authority on this?

No sources or anything?

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To be fair, you don't HAVE to, so why would you be celibate?

Sex is great.

What arbitrary reason do you have NOT to have sex?


To be fair, why does matter? It's a personal choice, as much as anything else.

First of all, I'm a very religous person. That should be reason enough.

Secondly, when I marry someone I want to give them my all, physically and emotionally (and sex, especially for a sappy romantic like me, is very emotional).

Thirdly, my family has had a history with sex that isn't too good. My cousin got married early because he got a girl pregnant. His father had oversexed (yes, it is a thing) himself as a young man and it destroyed his marriage, his relationship with his best friend, and eventually his best friend's marriage.

Lastly, it's not that big of a deal, at least when it comes to other people. I've always wanted to go the path least traveled, and I made the desicion, even before I was Christian, to wait becuase I didn't want it to become a focal point in my life. Over the years my closest friends have pursed relationships based on sex appeal, and I've seen marriages (like the one prevously mentioned) based on looks being decimated. I don't want to be the kind of person that lives like that. Not to say that all relationships or people that aren't celibate are like that, but simply that I want to train myself not to think like that.


Some would say you have an unhealthy fear and expectation of sex.

But, hey, you're right. Your loss to loose.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:32 pm

Autismiah wrote:It doesn't mean she is guaranteed to be unfaithful, no, but I think that the chances would be elevated.

Why would she be more likely to be unfaithful? Do you have any research to back up that bizarre 'theory'?
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Postby Disserbia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:33 pm

Autismiah wrote:
Condunum wrote:So simply having had sex once before = promiscuous hedonist? Nice.


Most people who've had sex with more than one person have had sex with multiple people; generally, people don't stop at 2 and then get married to the person they had sex with second. Most either keep their virginity or are promiscuous.

What? Are orgies really that common?
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Postby New haven america » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:34 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
New haven america wrote:How is it my failure if some people can't grow-up?

Humans don't suck. You might but people in general do not. And no, your personal anecdotes prove nothing.

That escalated quickly. :roll: (In general, humans do, move on please)
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:34 pm

Autismiah wrote:
Dakini wrote:Given your definition of "promiscuous" and the existence of people in this very thread who are currently happily married and were once "promiscuous" by your definition, I'm going to go with "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about" on this one.



The definition according to the Oxford Dictionary and literally every other dictionary too.

Anecdotal evidence is useless.

Well, you're not even providing us with anecdotal evidence, you're just making assumptions based on absolutely nothing other than your own prejudices.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:34 pm

Autismiah wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Having sex =/= promiscuous.
Having sex =/= hedonistic.

So what does having sex reveal about a person?


Murdering someone =/= violent.
Murdering someone =/= aggressive.

Having had multiple partners is the definition of being promiscuous, so you're wrong there, and it implies hedonism.

I suggest you reread what I wrote.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:35 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Autismiah wrote:
Most people who've had sex with more than one person have had sex with multiple people; generally, people don't stop at 2 and then get married to the person they had sex with second. Most either keep their virginity or are promiscuous.

What? Are orgies really that common?

Apparently.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:35 pm

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Condunum wrote:Dyakovo actually hand crafted his children from dirt and used an old Voodoo spell me and a coven crafted up way back when.

Oh, you're sure one of them didn't burst out of his head fully armoured?

Or that none of them are the result of him ejaculating into the ocean and then forming among the sea foam?

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Postby Dakini » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:36 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Dakini wrote:Immaculate conception?

:lol2:
That would make it even weirder...

It would explain why they're *clearly* such perfect angels, right? :P

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:36 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Autismiah wrote:
Most people who've had sex with more than one person have had sex with multiple people; generally, people don't stop at 2 and then get married to the person they had sex with second. Most either keep their virginity or are promiscuous.

What? Are orgies really that common?

Only in 1970s porn films and the minds of people who have never had sex.
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Postby Autismiah » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:36 pm

Condunum wrote:
Autismiah wrote:
Most people who've had sex with more than one person have had sex with multiple people; generally, people don't stop at 2 and then get married to the person they had sex with second. Most either keep their virginity or are promiscuous.

It's not my fault you put your foot in your mouth:
Autismiah wrote:I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.


A woman who has lost her virginity will probably be promiscuous, and as a result, probably be hedonistic as well. This is because most women who have had more than one sexual partner have many more.

I have never found a woman that has lost their virginity and yet has had only one sexual partner. They are very rare.
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Postby Disserbia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:37 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Disserbia wrote:What? Are orgies really that common?

Apparently.

Where can I find one? (Jk that's gross I walked in on one in my dorm and I think I'm scarred for life now)
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
New haven america wrote:How is it my failure if some people can't grow-up?

Humans don't suck. You might but people in general do not. And no, your personal anecdotes prove nothing.

The fun ones do... ;)
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:37 pm

Autismiah wrote:
Condunum wrote:It's not my fault you put your foot in your mouth:


A woman who has lost her virginity will probably be promiscuous, and as a result, probably be hedonistic as well. This is because most women who have had more than one sexual partner have many more.

I have never found a woman that has lost their virginity and yet has had only one sexual partner. They are very rare.

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Postby Autismiah » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:38 pm

Dakini wrote:
Autismiah wrote:

The definition according to the Oxford Dictionary and literally every other dictionary too.

Anecdotal evidence is useless.

Well, you're not even providing us with anecdotal evidence, you're just making assumptions based on absolutely nothing other than your own prejudices.


I said what I preferred in a woman. People like yourself found this horrendously offensive and decided to cry on me about it. I figured people would respect that I have differing opinions and not decide to pull the ever-powerful prejudice card, but I expected too much.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:38 pm

Dakini wrote:
Dyakovo wrote: :lol2:
That would make it even weirder...

It would explain why they're *clearly* such perfect angels, right? :P

"My kids" "perfect angels"
Does not compute...
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Postby New haven america » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:38 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Humans don't suck. You might but people in general do not. And no, your personal anecdotes prove nothing.

The fun ones do... ;)

:lol:
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:39 pm

Autismiah wrote:
Dakini wrote:Well, you're not even providing us with anecdotal evidence, you're just making assumptions based on absolutely nothing other than your own prejudices.


I said what I preferred in a woman. People like yourself found this horrendously offensive and decided to cry on me about it. I figured people would respect that I have differing opinions and not decide to pull the ever-powerful prejudice card, but I expected too much.


Ironic.

You seem to not appreciate OUR opinion that it's pathetic.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:39 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Humans don't suck. You might but people in general do not. And no, your personal anecdotes prove nothing.

The fun ones do... ;)

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