Value of virginity and slut-shaming

[Disserbia]

Yeah it isn't so how is admitting that she is not fluent in English backpedaling, it's adding context. It's not slut shamming because someone uses the word slut.

I'm not sure what you misunderstand.

It is a word that people uses to denigrate women.

Why would you even want to use it?

I don't want to use it where did I say it was a nice word to use?

[Autismiah]

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

What a dumb thing to say.

NO U!!1!

[Galloism]

But that's how she described you.

The nonshaming stupid American slut way.

Yeah it isn't so how is admitting that she is not fluent in English backpedaling, it's adding context. It's not slut shamming because someone uses the word slut.

So if she doesn't know what "slut" means, how did she accurately (according to her intent) apply it to the situation?

You yourself said it had to do with having a boyfriend and dressing Inappropriately for church.

She must have just gotten unlucky in translation. Clearly she meant "slightly less than average intelligence American bad-dresser with a boyfriend I don't approve of".

[Condunum]

I can understand that, but you have to at least understand that intent isn't everything.

It's not but it counts for a hell of a lot.

It only counts so far as you can hold the person accountable. It's still slutshamming.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sure, but that's hardly who you are.

Of course.

Which is why I asked.

[Dyakovo]

I would prefer to have sex with a virgin honestly.

Are you that bad that you need to have a partner that has no metric for comparison?

[The Rich Port]

Why?

Look at it this way.

-More of a risk I'm getting an STD if the condom breaks.

-If she has experience, than I'll feel pressured into impressing her.

-She wouldn't have that "New Girl Smell"

Or you could find a woman understanding, kind, and beautiful enough to teach you some tricks while having sex with you.

It's not a competition.

What is it with people and STD's?

Oh, right... STD sex ed.

[Galloism]

-She wouldn't have that "New Girl Smell"

Wait, what???

[Autismiah]

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

Having sex reveals a lot about you?

Very much so.

A celibate person would have a vastly differing personality to that of a porn star for obvious reasons.

[New haven america]

I would prefer to have sex with a virgin honestly.

Are you that bad that you need to have a partner that has no metric for comparison?

Maybe. :\

[Dakini]

Why?

Look at it this way.

-More of a risk I'm getting an STD if the condom breaks.

Yes, because it's not like if this is something you're worried about you could ask your potential partner to get some tests done (especially if you also go get tests done).

-If she has experience, than I'll feel pressured into impressing her.

So my guess was correct.

-She wouldn't have that "New Girl Smell"

This is the biggest load of shit ever.

[Dyakovo]

How does having sex reduce a woman's value?

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

What does it reveal about them?

[Disserbia]

After I hit 22 I refused to have sex with virgins.

It was about this point that I figured out I didn't want to deal with absolutely terrible sex anymore.

Yeah, I never understood the virgin fetish. Leads to terrible awkward sex.

[Individuality-ness]

Sex with someone that isn't you =! promiscuity, infidelity, etc. Those are two different things.

Of course, if a woman has sex with someone that isn't me and marries that person, then 20 years later the man dies and she looks for another partner, I would not feel as though she is of less value than the average woman because she had sex with someone else. It's just that the majority of women have sex with multiple people now, meaning they are promiscuous.

I don't know why you mention infidelity.

Sex with many people that isn't you STILL doesn't mean that. I said infidelity because a lot of people who slut-shame think that if a woman has a lot of sex, it means she'll be unfaithful to you in your current relationship.

[Brocwika]

Why?

Because they don't know how good sex can be therefore don't notice how terrible he is.

Thats partially the reason.

[Autismiah]

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

What does it reveal about them?

I just said.

[Disserbia]

It's not but it counts for a hell of a lot.

It only counts so far as you can hold the person accountable. It's still slutshamming.

Can you hold someone accountable if their understanding of the language they are conversing in is less than solid?

[Individuality-ness]

-She wouldn't have that "New Girl Smell"

Wait, what???

Well then. We now know where Brocwika stands on the "not a jerk to other women" scale.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Having sex reveals a lot about you?

Very much so.

A celibate person would have a vastly differing personality to that of a porn star for obvious reasons.

So, someone who's had experienced sex before is a porn star? Wut?

[Condunum]

Why?

It's really not generally that great.

With a few notable exceptions over the millennia.

I've noticed that different cultures have learned and forgotten different things over the past few centuries.

man, what those Nubians knew...

[Dakini]

After I hit 22 I refused to have sex with virgins.

It was about this point that I figured out I didn't want to deal with absolutely terrible sex anymore.

Yeah, I never understood the virgin fetish. Leads to terrible awkward sex.

Well, I'm a woman, so there's not much of a virgin fetish for us. There is the "oh... that's it?" after 30 seconds of awkward unenjoyable thrusting that one might want to avoid.

[Individuality-ness]

Because they don't know how good sex can be therefore don't notice how terrible he is.

Thats partially the reason.

... holy fuck. I'm pulling a NA on this one.

[Galloism]

Very much so.

A celibate person would have a vastly differing personality to that of a porn star for obvious reasons.

So, someone who's had experienced sex before is a porn star? Wut?

I knew there was something special about me.

I'm going to Hollywood, the replacement for Ron Jeremy has arrived.

[Condunum]

It only counts so far as you can hold the person accountable. It's still slutshamming.

Can you hold someone accountable if their understanding of the language they are conversing in is less than solid?

I'm not believing you that this was a misunderstanding of language. From what I'm hearing, she was saying it in a disapproving way of your clothes and boyfriend. She was slutshamming.

[Autismiah]

Of course, if a woman has sex with someone that isn't me and marries that person, then 20 years later the man dies and she looks for another partner, I would not feel as though she is of less value than the average woman because she had sex with someone else. It's just that the majority of women have sex with multiple people now, meaning they are promiscuous.

I don't know why you mention infidelity.

Sex with many people that isn't you STILL doesn't mean that. I said infidelity because a lot of people who slut-shame think that if a woman has a lot of sex, it means she'll be unfaithful to you in your current relationship.

Mean what? Sex with many people does indeed mean you're promiscuous. That's the definition.

A woman who had never had sex as she was waiting for the right man seems less likely to cheat due to her evident moral viewpoints than someone who does not value virginity as she is arbitrary and uncaring about these things. What else will she be uncaring about? Marriage is only a piece of paper, after all.