Value of virginity and slut-shaming

[Autismiah]

I don't personally care if a woman decides to devalue herself, but I don't find the traits of promiscuity and arbitrariness as attractive. I also don't think such a display of unfaithfulness is appealing. So yes, I do value virginity. It shows control, too.

How does having sex reduce a woman's value?

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

[Disserbia]

I thought it was rude but its clear that isn't what she thinks of me. Like I said I'm not sure her grasp of English is ever solid enough to know what she was saying.

If you backpedal any faster you might violate causality, then we're all fucked.

You were the one making assumptions, nice try. First it was all day, then when I told you that's not how it was you tried to say she was painting me in a negative light, when I told you that's not how she thinks of me you basically said that because she used a certain word it was slut shamming. Nice try.

[Freelanderness]

I would prefer to have sex with a virgin honestly.

what happens after you have sex the first time...

[Galloism]

I would prefer to have sex with a virgin honestly.

Why?

It's really not generally that great.

With a few notable exceptions over the millennia.

[Condunum]

It's rude. I never said it wasn't.

And a clear intent to guilt or shame you into changing your behavior by casting you in a negative light.

Ergo, textbook definition of slut shaming.

Indeed it is. Even the mad ravings of someone suffering from severe retardation can be considered negative, regardless of intent or lack thereof.

[Individuality-ness]

1. Why are you only dealing with women? Are men allowed to sleep around but not women?
2. How does it devalue them?

1. I'm dealing with women because I'm only attracted to women.
2. I feel it devalues them because it demonstrates how they are promiscuous, arbitrary, and basically all the other things I said.

Sex with someone that isn't you =! promiscuity, infidelity, etc. Those are two different things.

[Napkiraly]

Lesson 1: Do not use pickup lines. They are cliche and in my experience only a minority of women actually like them and only because it's "cute".

"Hey girl, are you Nation States? Because I want to get on you every day and resolve all your issues."

No wonder I don't have a girlfriend.

Yeah....don't use that.

Though it did make me chuckle.

[The Rich Port]

May I vent?

Last year I was in class and one girl was explaining to me that her sister was sixteen and had a baby, which was why she was going to online school. I was a bit surprised but didn't really care, and thought I hid it well, but she repeated "Don't judge" and left it at that.

What really pissed me off was that two months later, I was joking with a female friend of mine about sex. The girl formerly mentioned asked if I was serious, and I replied that I would remain a virgin until marriage for both religous and practical reasons, then she replied with disdain "that's stupid" completely serious, whereupon I did everything I could to tell her to stop being a bitch.

What the fuck? Whatever happened to "Don't judge"? I live in NorCal, where everyone is supposedly "open-minded" yet this isn't the first time, only the stupidest incident: many people tell me quite bluntly that they think it's stupid and I need to get myself someone who I can screw silly. It seems people here are only "open-minded" to those who have sex or in regards to orientation.

To be fair, you don't HAVE to, so why would you be celibate?

Sex is great.

What arbitrary reason do you have NOT to have sex?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

How does having sex reduce a woman's value?

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

Having sex reveals a lot about you?

[Farnhamia]

How does having sex reduce a woman's value?

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

They're always devalued after losing their virginity?

[Galloism]

If you backpedal any faster you might violate causality, then we're all fucked.

You were the one making assumptions, nice try. First it was all day, then when I told you that's not how it was you tried to say she was painting me in a negative light, when I told you that's not how she thinks of me you basically said that because she used a certain word it was slut shamming. Nice try.

But that's how she described you.

The nonshaming stupid American slut way.

[Disserbia]

That doesn't mean that is what the person saying t was intending.

I can understand that, but you have to at least understand that intent isn't everything.

It's not but it counts for a hell of a lot.

[Lesbia]

One of the better thread titles in a while, I must say...

[The Rich Port]

How does having sex reduce a woman's value?

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

What a dumb thing to say.

[Disserbia]

You were the one making assumptions, nice try. First it was all day, then when I told you that's not how it was you tried to say she was painting me in a negative light, when I told you that's not how she thinks of me you basically said that because she used a certain word it was slut shamming. Nice try.

But that's how she described you.

The nonshaming stupid American slut way.

Yeah it isn't so how is admitting that she is not fluent in English backpedaling, it's adding context. It's not slut shamming because someone uses the word slut.

[Dakini]

After I hit 22 I refused to have sex with virgins.

It was about this point that I figured out I didn't want to deal with absolutely terrible sex anymore.

[Napkiraly]

I said why in the rest of my comment, really. I feel women are devalued after losing their virginity as it reveals a lot about them. Examples would be traits I personally find unattractive, like promiscuity and a hedonistic attitude.

Having sex reveals a lot about you?

To be fair, knowing whom I've slept with would reveal my tastes in women. So in that aspect it could.

But that's not what he means, of course.

[Autismiah]

1. I'm dealing with women because I'm only attracted to women.
2. I feel it devalues them because it demonstrates how they are promiscuous, arbitrary, and basically all the other things I said.

Sex with someone that isn't you =! promiscuity, infidelity, etc. Those are two different things.

Of course, if a woman has sex with someone that isn't me and marries that person, then 20 years later the man dies and she looks for another partner, I would not feel as though she is of less value than the average woman because she had sex with someone else. It's just that the majority of women have sex with multiple people now, meaning they are promiscuous.

I don't know why you mention infidelity.

[The Rich Port]

But that's how she described you.

The nonshaming stupid American slut way.

Yeah it isn't so how is admitting that she is not fluent in English backpedaling, it's adding context. It's not slut shamming because someone uses the word slut.

I'm not sure what you misunderstand.

It is a word that people uses to denigrate women.

Why would you even want to use it?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Having sex reveals a lot about you?

To be fair, knowing whom I've slept with would reveal my tastes in women. So in that aspect it could.

But that's not what he means, of course.

Sure, but that's hardly who you are.

[Disserbia]

And a clear intent to guilt or shame you into changing your behavior by casting you in a negative light.

Ergo, textbook definition of slut shaming.

Indeed it is. Even the mad ravings of someone suffering from severe retardation can be considered negative, regardless of intent or lack thereof.

So you are saying slut shamming, something that requires intent, does not require intent? What if someone has Tourette's are the slut shamming because they the word slut?

[Brocwika]

I would prefer to have sex with a virgin honestly.

Why?

Look at it this way.

-More of a risk I'm getting an STD if the condom breaks.

-If she has experience, than I'll feel pressured into impressing her.

-She wouldn't have that "New Girl Smell"

[Autismiah]

I don't personally care if a woman decides to devalue herself, but I don't find the traits of promiscuity and arbitrariness as attractive. I also don't think such a display of unfaithfulness is appealing. So yes, I do value virginity. It shows control, too.

It's opinions like this that make me state my sexual partners as much higher than they are, and talk very openly about sex.Because then I can weed out the ones who think I'm property.

Okay.

[Dakini]

I would prefer to have sex with a virgin honestly.

Why?

Because they don't know how good sex can be therefore don't notice how terrible he is.

[Napkiraly]

To be fair, knowing whom I've slept with would reveal my tastes in women. So in that aspect it could.

But that's not what he means, of course.

Sure, but that's hardly who you are.

Of course.