Value of virginity and slut-shaming

[Condunum]

Which is what Condunum was asking.

"Why, exactly, do you believe that a woman who has been with someone else would view you as inferior?"

So that's where it came from.

Oh...

I thought he was stating that I thought women were inferior...

...Would you mind attempting to answer the question, then?

[The Silence of Night]

You're a little late.

And? For a lot of guys she'd be another girl for him to fuck. Doesn't make either party inferior.

Which is what I was saying.

[Libertarian California]

Well... The issue was you calling it objective, when it's not.

That's for another thread.

We can all agree LC should be ashamed for being prejudicial despite the fact he knows he's being prejudicial.

I had no idea I was prejudiced for not wanting to be treated by women the way most guys treat women.

[Libertarian California]

Oh...

I thought he was stating that I thought women were inferior...

...Would you mind attempting to answer the question, then?

I did...you guys said I was the evil, prejudiced sexist for it and that I should be ashamed of myself.

[The Rich Port]

It is objective when everyone agrees to it.

Everyone in this thread agrees slut-shaming is bad, and that women are human beings who have flaws and strengths like their male counterparts.

I'm sure most American would agree once they come to their senses and think about it.

Everyone in Saudi Arabia agrees with the oppression of women, therefore it is an objective truth.

This isn't a tyranny by majority.

And I'm not shaming any "sluts". All I really stated was that I prefer virgins more.

No, it doesn't, but it makes it the objective morality.

The more people think something's right, the less likely they're going to think it's wrong, and the less likely opposing viewpoints are going to be tolerated.

We should make sure the objective, overriding morality are the ones that are actually logical and decent.

For example, not prizing virgins like they're mint-condition action figures or something.

[Condunum]

That's for another thread.

We can all agree LC should be ashamed for being prejudicial despite the fact he knows he's being prejudicial.

I had no idea I was prejudiced for not wanting to be treated by women the way most guys treat women.

Explain.

[Dyakovo]

Why do people insist on thinking someone else's sexuality is any of their fucking business?

It's scary when people don't have their personal decisions made for them by other people?

It's okay DM... I'll make your personal decisions for you.

[Libertarian California]

And if I do happen to think that, what are you gonna do, whine about it? It's not like it affects you in any way, shape, or form.

We'll mock you for being a disgusting misogynistic ass.

I'm not sure how I'm being misogynistic...

[Condunum]

...Would you mind attempting to answer the question, then?

I did...you guys said I was the evil, prejudiced sexist for it and that I should be ashamed of myself.

...

When? If I understand this correctly we've been arguing off of your failed understanding of the question. Perhaps you should try to articulate exactly what it is that makes you feel inferior?

[Condunum]

Everyone in Saudi Arabia agrees with the oppression of women, therefore it is an objective truth.

This isn't a tyranny by majority.

And I'm not shaming any "sluts". All I really stated was that I prefer virgins more.

No, it doesn't, but it makes it the objective morality.

The more people think something's right, the less likely they're going to think it's wrong, and the less likely opposing viewpoints are going to be tolerated.

We should make sure the objective, overriding morality are the ones that are actually logical and decent.

For example, not prizing virgins like they're mint-condition action figures or something.

His preference is in part based on the obnoxiously common attraction to virgins.

[Libertarian California]

I had no idea I was prejudiced for not wanting to be treated by women the way most guys treat women.

Explain.

It can be agreed that a lot of guys view women as objects they can fuck all they want and toss around. Hence that attitude "yeah bro let's get laid tonight".

This is bad. I do not a woman to have this mentality and treat me in a similar fashion.

[Libertarian California]

I did...you guys said I was the evil, prejudiced sexist for it and that I should be ashamed of myself.

...

When? If I understand this correctly we've been arguing off of your failed understanding of the question. Perhaps you should try to articulate exactly what it is that makes you feel inferior?

An excerpt from my original paragraph.

I'd feel like I was worth less than her previous lovers, as if I was just another guy for her to fuck.

[Grenartia]

Which is why I'm dual-majoring in physics and math.
*pops collar*
#YOLO

I don't give two shits about how pure the fields I'll be studying for are.

*plans to dual major in aerospace engineering and astrophysics*

You don't have to be smart to be a mathematician or physicist. Or both.

I do if I want to fully understand it, which I don't.

As I understand it, its impossible to fully understand any subject, as a full understanding of any subject requires a full understanding of all related subjects, to the point where one would require a full understanding of quantum physics.

Why do people insist on thinking someone else's sexuality is any of their fucking business?

BECAUSE HURR DURR.

Oh yeah because an NSG forum is really going to help someone "grow da fukk up".

Actually, it did a fair job of helping me do so.

You ARE harming women by thinking that women who have sex are incapable of feeling meaning and love and that they get damaged by having sex.

No I'm not harming women.

I'm not violating their lives, liberty, or property. My thoughts do not harm people. My actions do (if I happen to be acting in such a manner, which I don't). Please tell me how I have negatively impacted your life in a significant way.

AH, but your attitude contributes to a social attitude that encourages others to harm women. Which is just as fucking bad.

[Libertarian California]

Everyone in Saudi Arabia agrees with the oppression of women, therefore it is an objective truth.

This isn't a tyranny by majority.

And I'm not shaming any "sluts". All I really stated was that I prefer virgins more.

No, it doesn't, but it makes it the objective morality.

The more people think something's right, the less likely they're going to think it's wrong, and the less likely opposing viewpoints are going to be tolerated.

We should make sure the objective, overriding morality are the ones that are actually logical and decent.

For example, not prizing virgins like they're mint-condition action figures or something.

It's a preference held by many men. It's not inherently bad. Is preferring blonds over brunette bad, too?

[Condunum]

...

When? If I understand this correctly we've been arguing off of your failed understanding of the question. Perhaps you should try to articulate exactly what it is that makes you feel inferior?

An excerpt from my original paragraph.

I'd feel like I was worth less than her previous lovers, as if I was just another guy for her to fuck.

Then your problem is with yourself, and you need to deal with what seems to be major self-esteem issues.

[The Rich Port]

No, it doesn't, but it makes it the objective morality.

The more people think something's right, the less likely they're going to think it's wrong, and the less likely opposing viewpoints are going to be tolerated.

We should make sure the objective, overriding morality are the ones that are actually logical and decent.

For example, not prizing virgins like they're mint-condition action figures or something.

His preference is in part based on the obnoxiously common attraction to virgins.

... It's common?

No, it doesn't, but it makes it the objective morality.

The more people think something's right, the less likely they're going to think it's wrong, and the less likely opposing viewpoints are going to be tolerated.

We should make sure the objective, overriding morality are the ones that are actually logical and decent.

For example, not prizing virgins like they're mint-condition action figures or something.

It's a preference held by many men. It's not inherently bad. Is preferring blonds over brunette bad, too?

If you have some freaky deaky fallacious reason for, it's probably not OK or healthy.

Hair color is not analogous to virginity as a preference. You don't loose hair color when you have sex, and hair color isn't a cloudy, vague concept like "you had sex for the first time".

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

No, it doesn't, but it makes it the objective morality.

The more people think something's right, the less likely they're going to think it's wrong, and the less likely opposing viewpoints are going to be tolerated.

We should make sure the objective, overriding morality are the ones that are actually logical and decent.

For example, not prizing virgins like they're mint-condition action figures or something.

It's a preference held by many men. It's not inherently bad. Is preferring blonds over brunette bad, too?

If you start talking about how tainted brunettes are, hell yeah.

[Libertarian California]

An excerpt from my original paragraph.

Then your problem is with yourself, and you need to deal with what seems to be major self-esteem issues.

So you take back the apparent charges of prejudice and sexism? Because I honestly do not recall discriminating against anybody.

[Libertarian California]

No I'm not harming women.

I'm not violating their lives, liberty, or property. My thoughts do not harm people. My actions do (if I happen to be acting in such a manner, which I don't). Please tell me how I have negatively impacted your life in a significant way.

AH, but your attitude contributes to a social attitude that encourages others to harm women. Which is just as fucking bad.

How does me holding a particular belief encourage people I've never met before to harm women?

[The Rich Port]

Then your problem is with yourself, and you need to deal with what seems to be major self-esteem issues.

So you take back the apparent charges of prejudice and sexism? Because I honestly do not recall discriminating against anybody.

No.

Mental illness doesn't excuse you from prejudice, unless you're claiming you're a paranoid schizophrenic.

You need to realize you're prejudiced and get over it, and if you can't, get some help getting over it.

Maybe actually talk to women and realize virginity has little to do with the personality of a woman.

[Libertarian California]

It's a preference held by many men. It's not inherently bad. Is preferring blonds over brunette bad, too?

If you start talking about how tainted brunettes are, hell yeah.

I never said non-virgins were tainted.

[Confederation of the Eastern Powers]

I think both slut shaming and chastity shaming need to die.

Let people make their own choices.

I kind of saw this as where the thread should have ended. Anyway, virginity (in my eyes) has no real value and slut-shaming is disgusting. But if someone wants to remain a virgin, for whatever reason, that is fine. It must be valuable to them, and that's what matters. Same token though, one should be able to have as many partners as they want without facing ridicule from society.

[Dyakovo]

We'll mock you for being a disgusting misogynistic ass.

I'm not sure how I'm being misogynistic...

"Non-virginal women have less value"

[Fabachor]

How the fuck are you not seeing that it is sexism?
You think that women who have sex suddenly lose the ability to find meaning in a relationship or the first sexual act of a relationship. And you think that women's vagina's get "dirty" or "used" or "damaged" when they have sex and the only way for them to be good enough for you is if you are the only one to shove a cock in her.
Fucking. Sexism.

I think the same applies to men as well.

Your point?

So if you were a women( or gay, I don't judge being bi myself) if you weren't the first to touch a guys cock then you wouldn't be special or important to him?

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

If you start talking about how tainted brunettes are, hell yeah.

I never said non-virgins were tainted.

I wouldn't like to put my penis in a place whether other penises have been in before. It seems icky,