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Postby Risottia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:12 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Risottia wrote:Both. It's ten in the morning here and I haven't had my breakfast yet. I must really go wake her. We've got coffee and pie waiting.

Please don't introduce hot coffee to the genitals.

:) It would be a tad too extreme, even for my standards.
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:13 am

Battenburgia wrote:
Camelza wrote:We should both give it a try...
Image

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I'll give you a call next time i'm feeling suicidal ;)

:kiss: ...it's going to be apocalyptic!

Risottia wrote:
The IASM wrote:1. Emotion increases the chance of making irrational decisions


The IASM wrote: I hate sluts with the remains of my emotion.


And hate is an emotion.

It's nice you finally admitted your irrationality.

Good job Dr Freud.

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Postby The IASM » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:14 am

Risottia wrote:
The IASM wrote:1. Emotion increases the chance of making irrational decisions


The IASM wrote: I hate sluts with the remains of my emotion.


And hate is an emotion.

It's nice you finally admitted your irrationality.

I will not act on that emotion only what is rational. They can exist if the benefits are large enough however if they can be replaced they need to be removed from society.
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:15 am

The IASM wrote:
Risottia wrote:


And hate is an emotion.

It's nice you finally admitted your irrationality.

I will not act on that emotion only what is rational. They can exist if the benefits are large enough however if they can be replaced they need to be removed from society.

Sense, you don't make it laddie.

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Postby Battenburgia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:15 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Battenburgia wrote:
:rofl: :rofl: you should be a poet

Cunty McFuckTunnel is also a favorite...
As is "The Train Terminal"


:rofl:

I've always liked the term BeeGee .....describes a big hairy twat quite well I think :)

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Postby The IASM » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:17 am

Grenartia wrote:
The IASM wrote:No it is not as it is a complete waste of time. You are doing this for the same reasons as drug addicts practically - for pleasure. Are you in the denial phases right now or else your idiocy is magnificent.


Prove that sex for pleasure is consistently (read: always) as damaging to the body as hardcore drugs like meth or cocaine, and you might have a point.

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And pleasure is bad because?


It hinders the productive potential of humans to be slaves. From what I remember of IASM's bullshit, that's basically their wet dream for all of humanity. Some sort of mega-fascist government enslaving everybody. Really only somebody with problems would think such a system is a good thing.

Sex is not directly harmful however the illnesses it spreads are extremely bad for the body - take AIDS for example.

Actually it is logical as some of the most successful creatures on the planet live in such a fashion - the ants. They live in complex social structures which can exist for years unharmed, every solider will lay down its life to protect the colony. That is what I want for society - something that works with a few alternations.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:17 am

Battenburgia wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Cunty McFuckTunnel is also a favorite...
As is "The Train Terminal"


:rofl:

I've always liked the term BeeGee .....describes a big hairy twat quite well I think :)

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:19 am

The IASM wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Prove that sex for pleasure is consistently (read: always) as damaging to the body as hardcore drugs like meth or cocaine, and you might have a point.



It hinders the productive potential of humans to be slaves. From what I remember of IASM's bullshit, that's basically their wet dream for all of humanity. Some sort of mega-fascist government enslaving everybody. Really only somebody with problems would think such a system is a good thing.

Sex is not directly harmful however the illnesses it spreads are extremely bad for the body - take AIDS for example.

Actually it is logical as some of the most successful creatures on the planet live in such a fashion - the ants. They live in complex social structures which can exist for years unharmed, every solider will lay down its life to protect the colony. That is what I want for society - something that works with a few alternations.

So you want to enslave people. Make their lives miserable.
Yeah, no. Go away.

And after over 20 partners, thousands of individual sex acts, and a variety of masturbatory devices AND being a porn actress myself, I have yet to feel a single negative thing from sex because condoms fucking exist.
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Postby The IASM » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:19 am

Camelza wrote:
The IASM wrote:I will not act on that emotion only what is rational. They can exist if the benefits are large enough however if they can be replaced they need to be removed from society.

Sense, you don't make it laddie.

Actually I do, I've emotions - I just act on what is rational.
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20:22 Kirav Normal in Akai is nightmare fuel in the rest of the world.
11:33 Jedoria Something convoluted is going on in Akai probably.
Transoxthraxia: I'm no hentai connoisseur, but I'm pretty sure Akai's domestic politics would be like, at least top ten most fucked up hentais"
18:26 Deusaeuri Let me put it this way, you're what would happen if Lovecraft decided to write political dystopian techno thriller
20:19 Heku tits has gone mental
20:19 Jakee >gone
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Postby Battenburgia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:20 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:TWATPOT.
I forgot that one.


I counter you with....

SPUNK SPITOON

PISSFLAP PIANO

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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:22 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Tiltjuice wrote:
Um...no. Sexual compatibility is as important as any other aspect. You try pairing an asexual with a high-libido individual and you'll need to have a divorce lawyer on speed-dial.

If your marriage's longevity hinges on how much you fuck, there were probably other problems.

Nice strawman, You build it yourself?


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Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:In the real world, friend, sex is a real part of relationships. If it's shoddy it's probably going to ruin a relationship. That's just reality. Sexual satisfaction is an important part of intimate relationships.

That is weak. It is nothing but objectification and hedonism. If sex carries that much weight for someone they should just get a blowup doll.

You don't know what hedonism is.


Zweite Alaje wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Why do people who engage in casual sex inherently require counselling? :eyebrow:


Casual sex is indecent and immoral. People who engage in it lack self restraint and don't value genuine relationships.

Wrong.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:23 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:If your marriage's longevity hinges on how much you fuck, there were probably other problems.

Nice strawman, You build it yourself?


Zweite Alaje wrote:That is weak. It is nothing but objectification and hedonism. If sex carries that much weight for someone they should just get a blowup doll.

You don't know what hedonism is.


Zweite Alaje wrote:
Casual sex is indecent and immoral. People who engage in it lack self restraint and don't value genuine relationships.

Wrong.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:23 am

The IASM wrote:
Camelza wrote:Sense, you don't make it laddie.

Actually I do, I've emotions - I just act on what is rational.

If you're Asexual then why are you arguing about sex? :eyebrow:
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:24 am

The IASM wrote:
Camelza wrote:Sense, you don't make it laddie.

Actually I do, I've emotions - I just act on what is rational.

This sounds like schizophrenia ...emotions can't be controlled mentally, only physically. As such, you're either asexual, a huge and depressed hypocrite, or schizophrenic.

But even then this doesn't give you credit to criticise other peoples sexual life, or life in general.

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Postby Tsaraine » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:25 am

While I hate to be the Fun Police, perhaps we could keep in mind the PG-13 limit, hmm? Thinking up imaginative new references for your genitalia is ... a little beyond that line, I think. And not really on topic, to boot.

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Postby The IASM » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:28 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The IASM wrote:Sex is not directly harmful however the illnesses it spreads are extremely bad for the body - take AIDS for example.

Actually it is logical as some of the most successful creatures on the planet live in such a fashion - the ants. They live in complex social structures which can exist for years unharmed, every solider will lay down its life to protect the colony. That is what I want for society - something that works with a few alternations.

So you want to enslave people. Make their lives miserable.
Yeah, no. Go away.

And after over 20 partners, thousands of individual sex acts, and a variety of masturbatory devices AND being a porn actress myself, I have yet to feel a single negative thing from sex because condoms fucking exist.

My mind feels like killing you right now if I had the chance however I won't because truly you are not worth it. I wish the best for people not to force them into some dystopia, I've seen many examples of successful societies similar to mine and there is nothing saying that they won't work. Pornograpghy is a waste of time and so was several years of your life effectively. Porn does not bring constant pleasure and neither does sex.
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20:22 Kirav Normal in Akai is nightmare fuel in the rest of the world.
11:33 Jedoria Something convoluted is going on in Akai probably.
Transoxthraxia: I'm no hentai connoisseur, but I'm pretty sure Akai's domestic politics would be like, at least top ten most fucked up hentais"
18:26 Deusaeuri Let me put it this way, you're what would happen if Lovecraft decided to write political dystopian techno thriller
20:19 Heku tits has gone mental
20:19 Jakee >gone
05:48 Malay lol akai sounds lovely this time of never


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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:29 am

Battenburgia wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:TWATPOT.
I forgot that one.


I counter you with....

SPUNK SPITOON

PISSFLAP PIANO

Pissflap piano? Well that's... what?
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:29 am

The IASM wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
1. Not inherently so.

2. Fucking prove it.

3. First, you're wrong. Second, just because its your opinion doesn't make it any less wrong. Anybody who's debated a flat earther can fucking verify that.

4. Not until you adequately prove why.



1. Stress relief/recreation (i.e., basic human NEEDS) aren't practical purposes?

2. Not inherently.

3. Define "productive".

4. You can't prove it, because that's a subjective statement. And generally, policies based on subjective statements (especially subjective statements of the caliber you're making) are fucking shitty for ALL involved. See: every dictatorship in human history.



How highly fucking arbitrary of you. Who made you THE DECIDERTM?



Rebellion is ANY act of opposing a given authority. Period. No conditions of "consistency".

1) It is never wise to base your actions on what you feel at the moment as for instance you might kill someone out anger.
2) The fact they come back for more shows that.
3) They are doing it for pleasure the same reason drug addicts do it along with an inherent need for it.
4) They are the largest harbours of STDs on the planet.
5) Can be gone without abusing the human body and anyway there are far more effective ways of doing that.
6) True but they are highly likely to.
7) Something that brings out a long/medium term benefit to those involved in a particular activity.
8) I will not physically act on opinions but I hate sluts with the remains of my emotion.
9) Because the standard definition is rubbish.


1. At the same time, emotions are highly tied to human thought and action (IIRC, current psychological opinion, at least according to a video I watched in psychology class, is that emotions actually serve beneficial purposes, as opposed to being the psychological equivalent of vestigial organs). For instance, fear triggers the fight or flight system. Love helps ensure the survival of offspring and/or other members of the group. Things like that.

2. Not at all. When I say "prove it", I mean peer-reviewed psychological studies. If you claim its an addiction, then surely, if your claim is correct, you can find reputable psychological studies to back it up.

3. That doesn't prove your claim. Again, opinions can be wrong, even when people have a form of logic to back them up.

4. Not all of them. And that would be the ONLY justifiable reason to persecute "sluts". I hate to invoke Godwin, but you're sounding rather like Hitler on Jewish people. "Jews need to be destroyed because they're the biggest betrayers of Germany." (paraphrasing, but basically it)

Replace "Jews" with "sluts", and "betrayers of Germany" with "STD harbors", and the two statements are EXACTLY THE SAME.

5. You've yet to even prove its inherently "abusing" the body. And, in my experience, sex (or rather, in my case, masturbation, though they're similar enough for the purposes of this discussion to be counted as the same thing) is the MOST effective way of relieving stress I have come across. And I've done a lot of activities to relieve stress.

6. Which is why people need to be better educated about STDs, and all methods of prevention, as well as research into drugs to treat/cure them. The answer is to treat the actual problem, and not persecuting the victims.

7. Sounds like something that sex does.

8. No, you aren't acting on them, but you're advocating for others to act on them. Which is just as bad.

9. Doesn't answer my question. Who gave you the authority to decide where the line is to determine who is and isn't a slut, and on what authority are THEY operating?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:30 am

The IASM wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:So you want to enslave people. Make their lives miserable.
Yeah, no. Go away.

And after over 20 partners, thousands of individual sex acts, and a variety of masturbatory devices AND being a porn actress myself, I have yet to feel a single negative thing from sex because condoms fucking exist.

My mind feels like killing you right now if I had the chance however I won't because truly you are not worth it. I wish the best for people not to force them into some dystopia, I've seen many examples of successful societies similar to mine and there is nothing saying that they won't work. Pornograpghy is a waste of time and so was several years of your life effectively. Porn does not bring constant pleasure and neither does sex.

Human societies that resemble ant hives? Do tell.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:30 am

The IASM wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:So you want to enslave people. Make their lives miserable.
Yeah, no. Go away.

And after over 20 partners, thousands of individual sex acts, and a variety of masturbatory devices AND being a porn actress myself, I have yet to feel a single negative thing from sex because condoms fucking exist.

My mind feels like killing you right now if I had the chance however I won't because truly you are not worth it. I wish the best for people not to force them into some dystopia, I've seen many examples of successful societies similar to mine and there is nothing saying that they won't work. Pornograpghy is a waste of time and so was several years of your life effectively. Porn does not bring constant pleasure and neither does sex.

You would hate the stuff in my mind. XP
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:31 am

The IASM wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:So you want to enslave people. Make their lives miserable.
Yeah, no. Go away.

And after over 20 partners, thousands of individual sex acts, and a variety of masturbatory devices AND being a porn actress myself, I have yet to feel a single negative thing from sex because condoms fucking exist.

My mind feels like killing you right now if I had the chance however I won't because truly you are not worth it. I wish the best for people not to force them into some dystopia, I've seen many examples of successful societies similar to mine and there is nothing saying that they won't work. Pornograpghy is a waste of time and so was several years of your life effectively. Porn does not bring constant pleasure and neither does sex.

You feel like killing me because I disagree with your hateful, depressing, and clearly ignorant view of sex? L-O-L
Nah, it wasn't a waste, it was fun. Plus, porn brought me a lot of money. Cha-ching, mufucka.
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Postby Tsaraine » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:31 am

The IASM wrote:My mind feels like killing you right now if I had the chance however I won't because truly you are not worth it. I wish the best for people not to force them into some dystopia, I've seen many examples of successful societies similar to mine and there is nothing saying that they won't work. Pornograpghy is a waste of time and so was several years of your life effectively. Porn does not bring constant pleasure and neither does sex.


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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:32 am

Camelza wrote:
The IASM wrote:Actually I do, I've emotions - I just act on what is rational.

This sounds like schizophrenia ...emotions can't be controlled mentally, only physically. As such, you're either asexual, a huge and depressed hypocrite, or schizophrenic.

But even then this doesn't give you credit to criticise other peoples sexual life, or life in general.

Don't insult those of us with schizophrenia.
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Postby The IASM » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:33 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The IASM wrote:My mind feels like killing you right now if I had the chance however I won't because truly you are not worth it. I wish the best for people not to force them into some dystopia, I've seen many examples of successful societies similar to mine and there is nothing saying that they won't work. Pornograpghy is a waste of time and so was several years of your life effectively. Porn does not bring constant pleasure and neither does sex.

You feel like killing me because I disagree with your hateful, depressing, and clearly ignorant view of sex? L-O-L
Nah, it wasn't a waste, it was fun. Plus, porn brought me a lot of money. Cha-ching, mufucka.

That's it I'm leaving the building as certainly there are only irrational people were.
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20:22 Kirav Normal in Akai is nightmare fuel in the rest of the world.
11:33 Jedoria Something convoluted is going on in Akai probably.
Transoxthraxia: I'm no hentai connoisseur, but I'm pretty sure Akai's domestic politics would be like, at least top ten most fucked up hentais"
18:26 Deusaeuri Let me put it this way, you're what would happen if Lovecraft decided to write political dystopian techno thriller
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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:33 am

New haven america wrote:
The IASM wrote:Actually I do, I've emotions - I just act on what is rational.

If you're Asexual then why are you arguing about sex? :eyebrow:
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