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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:30 pm

I use a modified version of that theory to prove the John F. Kennedy was stupid.

There are an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1. Therefore, for a second to pass, "Current Time" must pass through every number between 0 and 1, or else it is not 1. Well, if there are an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1, Ct cannot pass through every number, therefore time can never reach the next second (or whatever the smallest increment of time is at this moment), therefore time does not pass. JFK said, and I quote, "Time does not stand still". I have proved that it does, therefore JFK was stupid.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:30 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Condunum wrote:Yes, and you intentionally leave these things unexplained in an attempt to remain obscure and misunderstood, as if you're smart.

How do these states of time disprove evolution?


Because you can't get from a state of time (appearance of life) to now.

And why is that?
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:30 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Condunum wrote:That somehow time does not move forward as it divides?

Further, that time divides, and it's not just our perception which is dividing.


You experience all of those states of time. The 1/2th, the 1/4th, etc. You just don't feel it.

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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:31 pm

Ermarian wrote:... you just went full Time Cube.

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.


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Postby Liriena » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:31 pm

OP, you should be ashamed of yourself. I cannot fathom what sort of fallacious bullshit they must have taught you in this Liberty Bible Academy, but that is still no excuse for your perversion of good science. You have left a disgusting stain on biology and physics with your asinine attempt at disproving a thoroughly proven scientific theory.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:31 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Shut up. I need to get my rocks off after I disprove evolution.

It's ok. I 'got my rocks off' just 5 minutes ago.
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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:31 pm

Condunum wrote:
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Because you can't get from a state of time (appearance of life) to now.

And why is that?


Because there are infinite states of time in between them, due to the fact that every interval is half open.

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Postby Britcan » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:32 pm

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Britcan wrote:Trying to disprove evolution and searching for porn at the same time? You are certainly one busy individual.


Hey wait!

Maybe porn is Evolution! (ERMAGHED!)

Science lessons just got much more fun.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:32 pm

Benomia wrote:I use a modified version of that theory to prove the John F. Kennedy was stupid.

There are an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1. Therefore, for a second to pass, "Current Time" must pass through every number between 0 and 1, or else it is not 1. Well, if there are an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1, Ct cannot pass through every number, therefore time can never reach the next second (or whatever the smallest increment of time is at this moment), therefore time does not pass. JFK said, and I quote, "Time does not stand still". I have proved that it does, therefore JFK was stupid.


I recall JFK being a witty overhyped womanizing catholic not a full on idiot.
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Postby Communist republic of altorus » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:33 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics from a very well-known and prestigious university (See here. I have an extremely good grasp on concepts in physics, theoretical physics, and Big Bang Cosmology. My understanding of the theory of relativity indicates to me that the theory of evolution is impossible. I'll use my scientific credentials to explain why.

Here is a useful diagram that I created. Please reference this while reading.

The first part of the timeline has the origin of life, and the last part has the present moment. The line in between represents all of the time in between the two (one billion years after life, two billion years, etc.).

Now, the theory of relativity is widely confirmed. There are many proofs of general relativity, some complex and some simple, so I will show that relativity is true using one of the simpler arguments. For many centuries, it was noted that the orbit of Mercury was slightly different from what Newton's equations would predict. Instead of orbiting in a perfect ellipse like other plants, the orbit of Mercury precesses (which means it does not return to the same point after one orbit, but shifts slightly). When Einstein calculated the orbit of Mercury using the equations of general relativity, it predicted the orbit of Mercury with perfect accuracy. This is a strong indication that the theory of relativity is true.

But, the theory of relativity, and the equations derived from it, require every finite interval of time to be ''half-open''. This means that, if you have the first hour after the big bang, you can keep diving it into halves and more halves. So, this is what our diagram looks like now.

(Image)

Let's focus on the states of time in between the origin of life and the present moment.

(Image)

(It keeps going after four)

Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.



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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:33 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Condunum wrote:And why is that?


Because there are infinite states of time in between them, due to the fact that every interval is half open.


What is your theory? Most people have their own theory.
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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:33 pm

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Because there are infinite states of time in between them, due to the fact that every interval is half open.


What is your theory? Most people have their own theory.


You don't need a theory to disprove another theory.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:33 pm

Communist republic of altorus wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics from a very well-known and prestigious university (See here. I have an extremely good grasp on concepts in physics, theoretical physics, and Big Bang Cosmology. My understanding of the theory of relativity indicates to me that the theory of evolution is impossible. I'll use my scientific credentials to explain why.

Here is a useful diagram that I created. Please reference this while reading.

The first part of the timeline has the origin of life, and the last part has the present moment. The line in between represents all of the time in between the two (one billion years after life, two billion years, etc.).

Now, the theory of relativity is widely confirmed. There are many proofs of general relativity, some complex and some simple, so I will show that relativity is true using one of the simpler arguments. For many centuries, it was noted that the orbit of Mercury was slightly different from what Newton's equations would predict. Instead of orbiting in a perfect ellipse like other plants, the orbit of Mercury precesses (which means it does not return to the same point after one orbit, but shifts slightly). When Einstein calculated the orbit of Mercury using the equations of general relativity, it predicted the orbit of Mercury with perfect accuracy. This is a strong indication that the theory of relativity is true.

But, the theory of relativity, and the equations derived from it, require every finite interval of time to be ''half-open''. This means that, if you have the first hour after the big bang, you can keep diving it into halves and more halves. So, this is what our diagram looks like now.

(Image)

Let's focus on the states of time in between the origin of life and the present moment.

(Image)

(It keeps going after four)

Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.



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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:33 pm

Benomia wrote:I use a modified version of that theory to prove the John F. Kennedy was stupid.

There are an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1. Therefore, for a second to pass, "Current Time" must pass through every number between 0 and 1, or else it is not 1. Well, if there are an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1, Ct cannot pass through every number, therefore time can never reach the next second (or whatever the smallest increment of time is at this moment), therefore time does not pass. JFK said, and I quote, "Time does not stand still". I have proved that it does, therefore JFK was stupid.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:34 pm

Britcan wrote:
Benuty wrote:
Hey wait!

Maybe porn is Evolution! (ERMAGHED!)

Science lessons just got much more fun.

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Postby Okinagano » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:34 pm

Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .

Be mature. "He was searching for pornography while he made the diagram," is not a good argument.

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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:35 pm

My theory is this: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=241594

I also accept the Timegate ''conspiracy'' theory.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:35 pm

Okinagano wrote:
Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .

Be mature. "He was searching for pornography while he made the diagram," is not a good argument.


He admitted to masturbation, so yeah it is.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:35 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Condunum wrote:And why is that?


Because there are infinite states of time in between them, due to the fact that every interval is half open.

If what you're saying were true, the mere existence of reality would not be.

Yes, there are infinite states of time, are far as we can perceive them. That doesn't mean time doesn't flow. Or are you going to tell me that every second of every day of every year of every century of every eon that has ever passed cannot exist?
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Okinagano wrote:
Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .

Be mature. "He was searching for pornography while he made the diagram," is not a good argument.


I actually searched for pornography after I made the diagram.

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Scorpions on the moon wrote:My theory is this: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=241594

I also accept the Timegate ''conspiracy'' theory.

Oh dear god you were joking this whole time.
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Scorpions on the moon wrote:My theory is this: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=241594

I also accept the Timegate ''conspiracy'' theory.


Holy hell no, Timegate is an overly insane theory.
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Liriena wrote:OP, you should be ashamed of yourself. I cannot fathom what sort of fallacious bullshit they must have taught you in this Liberty Bible Academy, but that is still no excuse for your perversion of good science. You have left a disgusting stain on biology and physics with your asinine attempt at disproving a thoroughly proven scientific theory.

You've wasted my time, and that of everybody else here, by using perfectly good science and the Forums of NS as the raw materials for a mindblowingly stupid line of thought.

I'd say "get a blog", but this doesn't even deserve a blog.

Shame on you.


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Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .


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Postby Abatael » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:36 pm

Okinagano wrote:
Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .

Be mature. "He was searching for pornography while he made the diagram," is not a good argument.


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