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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:24 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Condunum wrote:You mean those pictures and lines you made on paint?

I could do the same thing in two minutes.


I agree that the diagrams are shitty. I had a low budget and my pizza rolls were cooking. But, it's just meant to explain a concept.

You don't explain anything. You make a couple of assertions, with no base behind them. What reason should I have for accepting your assertions that are devoid of reason?
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .

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Postby Uiiop » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:We have proof for X.
It's not like I'm saying "A giant teapot created the universe" and not have proof to back it up.
Evolution DOES have proof.


No, because it's impossible.

So is a fast guy running ahead of a tortoise if the tortoise had a head start then.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:We have proof for X.
It's not like I'm saying "A giant teapot created the universe" and not have proof to back it up.
Evolution DOES have proof.


No, because it's impossible.

How so?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .


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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Condunum wrote:
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I agree that the diagrams are shitty. I had a low budget and my pizza rolls were cooking. But, it's just meant to explain a concept.

You don't explain anything. You make a couple of assertions, with no base behind them. What reason should I have for accepting your assertions that are devoid of reason?


What's the first thing you read that you disagree with in the actual thesis. We can go from there.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:We have proof for X.
It's not like I'm saying "A giant teapot created the universe" and not have proof to back it up.
Evolution DOES have proof.


No, because it's impossible.

Obviously not.
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Postby Okinagano » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Your theory implies that nothing can happen.

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Postby Rumostan » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:25 pm

If you want to disprove our theory then where is your alternative one?
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Okinagano wrote:Your theory implies that nothing can happen.

Moving is impossible we breaking the universe no matter what we do! :p
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Postby Keron » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics from a very well-known and prestigious university (See here. I have an extremely good grasp on concepts in physics, theoretical physics, and Big Bang Cosmology. My understanding of the theory of relativity indicates to me that the theory of evolution is impossible. I'll use my scientific credentials to explain why.


I mean no disprespect, but that's not "a very well-known and prestigious university". I also hope this post isn't going to go towards the second law of thermodynamics as it would prove that you are lying when you say you have a good grasp of physics.

Here is a useful diagram that I created. Please reference this while reading.

The first part of the timeline has the origin of life, and the last part has the present moment. The line in between represents all of the time in between the two (one billion years after life, two billion years, etc.).

Now, the theory of relativity is widely confirmed. There are many proofs of general relativity, some complex and some simple, so I will show that relativity is true using one of the simpler arguments. For many centuries, it was noted that the orbit of Mercury was slightly different from what Newton's equations would predict. Instead of orbiting in a perfect ellipse like other plants, the orbit of Mercury precesses (which means it does not return to the same point after one orbit, but shifts slightly). When Einstein calculated the orbit of Mercury using the equations of general relativity, it predicted the orbit of Mercury with perfect accuracy. This is a strong indication that the theory of relativity is true.

But, the theory of relativity, and the equations derived from it, require every finite interval of time to be ''half-open''. This means that, if you have the first hour after the big bang, you can keep diving it into halves and more halves. So, this is what our diagram looks like now.

(Image)

Let's focus on the states of time in between the origin of life and the present moment.

(Image)

(It keeps going after four)

Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.


This... makes no sense. And I'm fairly certain that relativity, neither general nor special, work this way. Still, I've not studied physics at university, nor do I plan to, so maybe it's just me.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Condunum wrote:You don't explain anything. You make a couple of assertions, with no base behind them. What reason should I have for accepting your assertions that are devoid of reason?


What's the first thing you read that you disagree with in the actual thesis. We can go from there.

That somehow time does not move forward as it divides?

Further, that time divides, and it's not just our perception which is dividing.
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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .

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Postby The Sivent Isles » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .

:rofl:

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Postby Britcan » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:27 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:[url=http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png]

Trying to disprove evolution and searching for porn at the same time? You are certainly one busy individual.

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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:27 pm

Condunum wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:
What's the first thing you read that you disagree with in the actual thesis. We can go from there.

That somehow time does not move forward as it divides?

Further, that time divides, and it's not just our perception which is dividing.


You experience all of those states of time. The 1/2th, the 1/4th, etc. You just don't feel it.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:28 pm

Britcan wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:[url=http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png]

Trying to disprove evolution and searching for porn at the same time? You are certainly one busy individual.


Hey wait!

Maybe porn is Evolution! (ERMAGHED!)
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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:28 pm

Shut up. I need to get my rocks off after I disprove evolution.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:28 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Condunum wrote:That somehow time does not move forward as it divides?

Further, that time divides, and it's not just our perception which is dividing.


You experience all of those states of time. The 1/2th, the 1/4th, etc. You just don't feel it.

Yes, and you intentionally leave these things unexplained in an attempt to remain obscure and misunderstood, as if you're smart.

How do these states of time disprove evolution?
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Scorpions on the moon wrote:Shut up. I need to get my rocks off after I disprove evolution.


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Postby Nazis in Space » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:29 pm

Benuty wrote:
Britcan wrote:Trying to disprove evolution and searching for porn at the same time? You are certainly one busy individual.


Hey wait!

Maybe porn is Evolution! (ERMAGHED!)
Porn does select for bigger breasts and larger penises capable of functioning under stress.

So basically, yes.

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4/10 for almost making me believe you had any experience in physics.
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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:29 pm

Condunum wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:
You experience all of those states of time. The 1/2th, the 1/4th, etc. You just don't feel it.

Yes, and you intentionally leave these things unexplained in an attempt to remain obscure and misunderstood, as if you're smart.

How do these states of time disprove evolution?


Because you can't get from a state of time (appearance of life) to now.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:29 pm

Uiiop wrote:
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No, because it's impossible.

So is a fast guy running ahead of a tortoise if the tortoise had a head start then.

Zeno, is that you?

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Postby Ermarian » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:29 pm

... you just went full Time Cube.

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.


Sorry, I couldn't read this mess, because first I would have had to read half of it.
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