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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:12 pm

Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics from a very well-known and prestigious university (See here. I have an extremely good grasp on concepts in physics, theoretical physics, and Big Bang Cosmology. My understanding of the theory of relativity indicates to me that the theory of evolution is impossible. I'll use my scientific credentials to explain why.

Here is a useful diagram that I created. Please reference this while reading.

The first part of the timeline has the origin of life, and the last part has the present moment. The line in between represents all of the time in between the two (one billion years after life, two billion years, etc.).

Now, the theory of relativity is widely confirmed. There are many proofs of general relativity, some complex and some simple, so I will show that relativity is true using one of the simpler arguments. For many centuries, it was noted that the orbit of Mercury was slightly different from what Newton's equations would predict. Instead of orbiting in a perfect ellipse like other plants, the orbit of Mercury precesses (which means it does not return to the same point after one orbit, but shifts slightly). When Einstein calculated the orbit of Mercury using the equations of general relativity, it predicted the orbit of Mercury with perfect accuracy. This is a strong indication that the theory of relativity is true.

But, the theory of relativity, and the equations derived from it, require every finite interval of time to be ''half-open''. This means that, if you have the first hour after the big bang, you can keep diving it into halves and more halves. So, this is what our diagram looks like now.

Image

Let's focus on the states of time in between the origin of life and the present moment.

Image

(It keeps going after four)

Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:15 pm

Holy fucking shit.
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:16 pm

6.5/10 for at least being original with Zeno's paradoxes.

Also satirist detected you were the guy from earlier trying to Disprove god with relativity.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:17 pm

What's with you and invoking the obviously-not-impossible Zeno's Paradox line of thinking?
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Postby New Libertarian States » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:17 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics from a very well-known and prestigious university (See here. I have an extremely good grasp on concepts in physics, theoretical physics, and Big Bang Cosmology. My understanding of the theory of relativity indicates to me that the theory of evolution is impossible. I'll use my scientific credentials to explain why.

Here is a useful diagram that I created. Please reference this while reading.

The first part of the timeline has the origin of life, and the last part has the present moment. The line in between represents all of the time in between the two (one billion years after life, two billion years, etc.).

Now, the theory of relativity is widely confirmed. There are many proofs of general relativity, some complex and some simple, so I will show that relativity is true using one of the simpler arguments. For many centuries, it was noted that the orbit of Mercury was slightly different from what Newton's equations would predict. Instead of orbiting in a perfect ellipse like other plants, the orbit of Mercury precesses (which means it does not return to the same point after one orbit, but shifts slightly). When Einstein calculated the orbit of Mercury using the equations of general relativity, it predicted the orbit of Mercury with perfect accuracy. This is a strong indication that the theory of relativity is true.

But, the theory of relativity, and the equations derived from it, require every finite interval of time to be ''half-open''. This means that, if you have the first hour after the big bang, you can keep diving it into halves and more halves. So, this is what our diagram looks like now.

(Image)

Let's focus on the states of time in between the origin of life and the present moment.

(Image)

(It keeps going after four)

Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.

And you believe we got here.... How, excatly?
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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:18 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics from a very well-known and prestigious university (See here. I have an extremely good grasp on concepts in physics, theoretical physics, and Big Bang Cosmology. My understanding of the theory of relativity indicates to me that the theory of evolution is impossible. I'll use my scientific credentials to explain why.

Here is a useful diagram that I created. Please reference this while reading.

The first part of the timeline has the origin of life, and the last part has the present moment. The line in between represents all of the time in between the two (one billion years after life, two billion years, etc.).

Now, the theory of relativity is widely confirmed. There are many proofs of general relativity, some complex and some simple, so I will show that relativity is true using one of the simpler arguments. For many centuries, it was noted that the orbit of Mercury was slightly different from what Newton's equations would predict. Instead of orbiting in a perfect ellipse like other plants, the orbit of Mercury precesses (which means it does not return to the same point after one orbit, but shifts slightly). When Einstein calculated the orbit of Mercury using the equations of general relativity, it predicted the orbit of Mercury with perfect accuracy. This is a strong indication that the theory of relativity is true.

But, the theory of relativity, and the equations derived from it, require every finite interval of time to be ''half-open''. This means that, if you have the first hour after the big bang, you can keep diving it into halves and more halves. So, this is what our diagram looks like now.

(Image)

Let's focus on the states of time in between the origin of life and the present moment.

(Image)

(It keeps going after four)

Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.

And you believe we got here.... How, excatly?


That is not scientific. I do not have to provide my own theory in order to falsify yours.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:19 pm

This has fuck all to do with evolution...
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Postby New Libertarian States » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:19 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And you believe we got here.... How, excatly?


That is not scientific. I do not have to provide my own theory in order to falsify yours.

Your trying to disprove a fairly proven theory.
So, unless you'd like to provide a reasonable replacement,I don't see the point of this.
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Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:19 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:This has fuck all to do with evolution...


Yeah it does. It shows that if the origin of life existed, then it's impossible for the present moment to exist.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:20 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics

Stopped here. Poe.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:20 pm

Yeshua Ha-Mashiach Wept...not this again.
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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:20 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:
That is not scientific. I do not have to provide my own theory in order to falsify yours.

Your trying to disprove a fairly proven theory.
So, unless you'd like to provide a reasonable replacement,I don't see the point of this.


Again, your theory is not true even if there are no alternatives. That's an argument from ignorance to say ''We don't know what else could be true other than X, so X is true''.

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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:21 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics

Stopped here. Poe.


At least read the first diagram.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:21 pm

ahahahahahah! This is still the funniest thing I've read all day.

10/10 would laugh again.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:21 pm

I acknowledge and appreciate the irony of using a turtle racing Achilles to disprove a theory explaining the evolution of different turtle species on the galapagos islands.

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Postby Uiiop » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:22 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics

Stopped here. Poe.

Agreed no one can go from someone who tries to disprove god to saying the OP this fast.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:22 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Stopped here. Poe.


At least read the first diagram.

You mean those pictures and lines you made on paint?

I could do the same thing in two minutes.
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Postby Abatael » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:22 pm

http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .
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Postby New Libertarian States » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:22 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Your trying to disprove a fairly proven theory.
So, unless you'd like to provide a reasonable replacement,I don't see the point of this.


Again, your theory is not true even if there are no alternatives. That's an argument from ignorance to say ''We don't know what else could be true other than X, so X is true''.

We have proof for X.
It's not like I'm saying "A giant teapot created the universe" and not have proof to back it up.
Evolution DOES have proof.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
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there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:23 pm

Condunum wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:
At least read the first diagram.

You mean those pictures and lines you made on paint?

I could do the same thing in two minutes.


I agree that the diagrams are shitty. I had a low budget and my pizza rolls were cooking. But, it's just meant to explain a concept.

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Postby Scorpions on the moon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:23 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:
Again, your theory is not true even if there are no alternatives. That's an argument from ignorance to say ''We don't know what else could be true other than X, so X is true''.

We have proof for X.
It's not like I'm saying "A giant teapot created the universe" and not have proof to back it up.
Evolution DOES have proof.


No, because it's impossible.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:23 pm

Abatael wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4Wfio5X.png

In that one, you have "pornhub" in the search bar thing in the upper right corner. . .


That is hilarious XD.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:24 pm

Condunum wrote:
Scorpions on the moon wrote:
At least read the first diagram.

You mean those pictures and lines you made on paint?

I could do the same thing in two minutes.

Richard Dawkins looks a bit retarded in the picture ( which may have been his secret point in that damn chart).
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Postby Fulflood » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:24 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:Note: I understand that we already have a creation v.s. evolution thread. However, that thread is comparing the merits of creationism with the merits of evolution. I am not a creationist, so I do not think this is an appropriate place to put my post. I'd just like to indicate why evolution is impossible.

I recently completed my PhD in Biblical Physics from a very well-known and prestigious university (See here. I have an extremely good grasp on concepts in physics, theoretical physics, and Big Bang Cosmology. My understanding of the theory of relativity indicates to me that the theory of evolution is impossible. I'll use my scientific credentials to explain why.

Here is a useful diagram that I created. Please reference this while reading.

The first part of the timeline has the origin of life, and the last part has the present moment. The line in between represents all of the time in between the two (one billion years after life, two billion years, etc.).

Now, the theory of relativity is widely confirmed. There are many proofs of general relativity, some complex and some simple, so I will show that relativity is true using one of the simpler arguments. For many centuries, it was noted that the orbit of Mercury was slightly different from what Newton's equations would predict. Instead of orbiting in a perfect ellipse like other plants, the orbit of Mercury precesses (which means it does not return to the same point after one orbit, but shifts slightly). When Einstein calculated the orbit of Mercury using the equations of general relativity, it predicted the orbit of Mercury with perfect accuracy. This is a strong indication that the theory of relativity is true.

But, the theory of relativity, and the equations derived from it, require every finite interval of time to be ''half-open''. This means that, if you have the first hour after the big bang, you can keep diving it into halves and more halves. So, this is what our diagram looks like now.

(Image)

Let's focus on the states of time in between the origin of life and the present moment.

(Image)

(It keeps going after four)

Now, in order to get to the present moment from the origin of life, you need to get to T=1. But you can't get to T=1 because you can divide it into half. Then you have to get into T= 1/2. But you can't get to T=1/2 because you have to get to T=1/4th. But you can't get to T=1/4th because you have to get to T-1/8th. This goes on forever. There is no way to get to the present moment from the origin of life, so evolution is impossible.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:24 pm

Scorpions on the moon wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:We have proof for X.
It's not like I'm saying "A giant teapot created the universe" and not have proof to back it up.
Evolution DOES have proof.


No, because it's impossible.

And, your alternative is?
I'm also not seeing sources for the theory of relativity claims you made.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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