Creationism vs. Evolution

[Rodrania]

Aliens...

Just kidding, Darwinian Evolution

[Arkhanic Assassins]

That doesn't answer the question.

It does, actually. Homo neanderthalensis was another intelligent species. We aren't the only ones.

You could also argue that some primates have something approaching a set of language.

Neanderthals may be like us, but why did they become extinct if they possess the same intelligence as us. And why didn't more species, like them, evolve like us .

And for the record, primates do not have language, only communication.

[Divair]

Neanderthals may be like us, but why did they become extinct if they possess the same intelligence as us. .

Because we raped them. Figuratively speaking.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

So are you saying that Evolution will not favor superior traits?

No. Those with 'superior' traits tend to survive more to procreate. That's all.

And that humans are the only species that can evolve into such complexity?

For the foreseeable future on this planet, yes.

Well that's very arrogant, how can you be so sure that after a billion years, Gold-fish won't be will be able to talk?

[Divair]

No. Those with 'superior' traits tend to survive more to procreate. That's all.


For the foreseeable future on this planet, yes.

Well that's very arrogant, how can you be so sure that after a billion years, Gold-fish won't be will be able to talk?

Which part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand?

[Ayreonia]

It does, actually. Homo neanderthalensis was another intelligent species. We aren't the only ones.

You could also argue that some primates have something approaching a set of language.

Neanderthals may be like us, but why did they become extinct if they possess the same intelligence as us. And why didn't more species, like them, evolve like us .

And for the record, primates do not have language, only communication.

We extincted them.

It appears that Homo sapiens does not tolerate competition.

I said something approaching a language.

[Hurdegaryp]

Well that's very arrogant, how can you be so sure that after a billion years, Gold-fish won't be will be able to talk?

Which part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand?

Arkhanic Assassins seems to have created his nation for the sole purpose of entering this thread. He is probably a puppet. Maybe we should stop feeding him.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Well that's very arrogant, how can you be so sure that after a billion years, Gold-fish won't be will be able to talk?

Which part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand?

I just can't imagine, that after billions of years, humans are the only beings that can wake up in the morning, brush their teeth, prepare toast and talk over the phone about how that new dress in Victoria's secret will match perfectly with the shoes for the prom night.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Which part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand?

I just can't imagine, that after billions of years, humans are the only beings that can wake up in the morning, brush their teeth, prepare toast and talk over the phone about how that new dress in Victoria's secret will match perfectly with the shoes for the prom night.

Why? Evolution is, in complex organisms, a relatively slow process IIRC.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Which part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand?

Arkhanic Assassins seems to have created his nation for the sole purpose of entering this thread. He is probably a puppet. Maybe we should stop feeding him.

Sorry, I'm not a puppet, I just forgot to switch. My real nation is Arkhane

And please do feed my curiosity.

[Divair]

Which part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand?

I just can't imagine, that after billions of years, humans are the only beings that can wake up in the morning, brush their teeth, prepare toast and talk over the phone about how that new dress in Victoria's secret will match perfectly with the shoes for the prom night.

Seriously. What part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand? Is your vocabulary lacking?

[Arkhanic Assassins]

I just can't imagine, that after billions of years, humans are the only beings that can wake up in the morning, brush their teeth, prepare toast and talk over the phone about how that new dress in Victoria's secret will match perfectly with the shoes for the prom night.

Why? Evolution is, in complex organisms, a relatively slow process IIRC.

And primates are simple organisms? That's why they evolved into humans faster?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Why? Evolution is, in complex organisms, a relatively slow process IIRC.

And primates are simple organisms? That's why they evolved into humans faster?

No, primates are complex organisms, which is why it took hundreds of millions of years for mammals to evolve, tens of millions of years for the far smaller order of primates to evolve from the class Mammalia, and millions of years for just one species of primate, us, to evolve from our common ancestor with other primates.

That is not "fast".

[Hurdegaryp]

I just can't imagine, that after billions of years, humans are the only beings that can wake up in the morning, brush their teeth, prepare toast and talk over the phone about how that new dress in Victoria's secret will match perfectly with the shoes for the prom night.

Seriously. What part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand? Is your vocabulary lacking?

Looks more like he's deliberately ignoring it in order to advance his own agenda.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Neanderthals may be like us, but why did they become extinct if they possess the same intelligence as us. And why didn't more species, like them, evolve like us .

And for the record, primates do not have language, only communication.

We extincted them.

It appears that Homo sapiens does not tolerate competition.

I said something approaching a language.

Well, language changes with the passage of time, it is arbitrary. It sure is taking a hell lot of time for those primates to set up the basics.

[Divair]

Seriously. What part of "foreseeable future" don't you understand? Is your vocabulary lacking?

Looks more like he's deliberately ignoring it in order to advance his own agenda.

Either that or he isn't great at English.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

And primates are simple organisms? That's why they evolved into humans faster?

No, primates are complex organisms, which is why it took hundreds of millions of years for mammals to evolve, tens of millions of years for the far smaller order of primates to evolve from the class Mammalia, and millions of years for just one species of primate, us, to evolve from our common ancestor with other primates.

That is not "fast".

Then why not the other complex species, why only primates?

[Ayreonia]

We extincted them.

It appears that Homo sapiens does not tolerate competition.

I said something approaching a language.

Well, language changes with the passage of time, it is arbitrary. It sure is taking a hell lot of time for those primates to set up the basics.

What's your point?

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Looks more like he's deliberately ignoring it in order to advance his own agenda.

Either that or he isn't great at English.

I'm sorry, english isn't my native tongue. I'm not playing with you guys, so stop saying I'm scheming something. I sense you're scrambling something to better make me understand. Try harder.

[Divair]

Either that or he isn't great at English.

I'm sorry, english isn't my native tongue. I'm not playing with you guys, so stop saying I'm scheming something. I sense your scrambling something to better make me understand. Try harder.

fore·see·a·ble
/fôrˈsēəbəl/
Adjective
Able to be foreseen or predicted: "the situation is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future".
Synonyms
predictable



Now do you understand?

[Arkhanic Assassins]

I'm sorry, english isn't my native tongue. I'm not playing with you guys, so stop saying I'm scheming something. I sense your scrambling something to better make me understand. Try harder.

fore·see·a·ble
/fôrˈsēəbəl/
Adjective
Able to be foreseen or predicted: "the situation is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future".
Synonyms
predictable



Now do you understand?

Thank you, you answered most of my questions. Now, why are primates the only species to evolve sentient intelligence?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

No, primates are complex organisms, which is why it took hundreds of millions of years for mammals to evolve, tens of millions of years for the far smaller order of primates to evolve from the class Mammalia, and millions of years for just one species of primate, us, to evolve from our common ancestor with other primates.

That is not "fast".

Then why not the other complex species, why only primates?

Because for most of the time before the rise of mammals, reptiles were dominant. Dinosaurs may have been evolving more intelligence slowly.

But the enormous space-rock put paid to that, and it was only 65 million years ago that mammals got the chance to become dominant. Once Homo sapiens and earlier hominids evolved, they began busily exterminating all competition, reducing drastically the opportunities for anything else to evolve human-like intelligence.

That'd be my take on it, as someone with no qualifications in biology.

[Divair]

fore·see·a·ble
/fôrˈsēəbəl/
Adjective
Able to be foreseen or predicted: "the situation is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future".
Synonyms
predictable



Now do you understand?

Thank you, you answered most of my questions. Now, why are primates the only species to evolve sentient intelligence?

Because that's the route we took and these are the genes we've developed.

[Hurdegaryp]

Either that or he isn't great at English.

I'm sorry, english isn't my native tongue. I'm not playing with you guys, so stop saying I'm scheming something. I sense you're scrambling something to better make me understand. Try harder.

Wrong. Clearly you're scheming. It's not as if people like you haven't been encountered in this forum before.

[Immoren]

Shouldn't all apes and monkeys have evolved into human beings by now?

"If Americans descend from Europeans, how come there are still Europeans?"