Creationism vs. Evolution

[The Rich Port]

Tell me what makes you support creationism. "The Bible" is not a valid answer. I'm asking for arguments and evidence.

Well I'm not here to argue, just to make a statement. I was born into a Christian family, not very religious but we try to go to Chuch every Sunday(still dont get how it helps) As for the Bible, it is just a book made by people who see stuff they don't understand and make assumptions.

You are allowed, it's just that one is science and the other is an ancient way of explaining things that is wrong on quite a lot of things, and is demonstrably false unless you redefine it so something it never used to mean.

Don't hate people 2000 years ago for getting stuff wrong, they did the best they could.

You're allowed to, but it would be silly to.


What makes sense to you is not reality.

I see that you can stand people who don't think like you.

I think that's a problem with any one worth their salt on NSG.

Especially when the people they disagree with have stupid opinions and beliefs.

[Cocacola667]

I see that you can stand people who don't think like you.

Yes, I can deal with people not thinking like me. Now can you stop the derailment and either continue talking about the subject at hand or concede?

Why would I concede, I have no reason to. I already said everything I need to, that I believe in both.

Well I'm not here to argue, just to make a statement. I was born into a Christian family, not very religious but we try to go to Chuch every Sunday(still dont get how it helps) As for the Bible, it is just a book made by people who see stuff they don't understand and make assumptions.


Don't hate people 2000 years ago for getting stuff wrong, they did the best they could.


I see that you can stand people who don't think like you.

I think that's a problem with any one worth their salt on NSG.

Especially when the people they disagree with have stupid opinions and beliefs.

Please don't call my opinions and beliefs stupid, I don't call yours stupid.

[Regnum Dominae]

Yes, I can deal with people not thinking like me. Now can you stop the derailment and either continue talking about the subject at hand or concede?

Why would I concede, I have no reason to. I already said everything I need to, that I believe in both.

I think that's a problem with any one worth their salt on NSG.

Especially when the people they disagree with have stupid opinions and beliefs.

Please don't call my opinions and beliefs stupid, I don't call yours stupid.

That's because they are stupid, and his aren't.

[Divair]

Why would I concede, I have no reason to. I already said everything I need to, that I believe in both.

Maybe you don't understand that NSG is a debate forum. If your only evidence for your claim is "Well, I believe it" then this isn't the forum for you.

[Cocacola667]

Why would I concede, I have no reason to. I already said everything I need to, that I believe in both.

Please don't call my opinions and beliefs stupid, I don't call yours stupid.

That's because they are stupid, and his aren't.

And here we go with the "what you believe in is stupid because its not what I believe in" argument. Now I don't want to go there.

[Regnum Dominae]

That's because they are stupid, and his aren't.

And here we go with the "what you believe in is stupid because its not what I believe in" argument. Now I don't want to go there.

My beliefs are backed in two centuries of scientific evidence. They are not stupid.
Your beliefs are in part based on an old book. That is stupid.

[Normandywe]

And here we go with the "what you believe in is stupid because its not what I believe in" argument. Now I don't want to go there.

My beliefs are backed in two centuries of scientific evidence. They are not stupid.
Your beliefs are in part based on an old book. That is stupid.

Someday, On The Origin of Species shall also be old. What does its age matter?

[Liriena]

My beliefs are backed in two centuries of scientific evidence. They are not stupid.
Your beliefs are in part based on an old book. That is stupid.

Someday, On The Origin of Species shall also be old. What does its age matter?

Regnum Dominae did not make an argument from antiquity.

[Normandywe]

Someday, On The Origin of Species shall also be old. What does its age matter?

Regnum Dominae did not make an argument from antiquity.

He said that beliefs based on an old book are stupid. Stop saying senseless things.

[Farnhamia]

My beliefs are backed in two centuries of scientific evidence. They are not stupid.
Your beliefs are in part based on an old book. That is stupid.

Someday, On The Origin of Species shall also be old. What does its age matter?

The thing is, Darwin's work has been either refined or superseded by on-going work. You can't say that about the holy texts, in fact, the fact that they are the same century after century is a prime part of the creationist agenda. Haven't you heard "Science keeps changing, people thought the world was flat but the Bible is eternal, which makes more sense?"

[Cocacola667]

Why would I concede, I have no reason to. I already said everything I need to, that I believe in both.

Maybe you don't understand that NSG is a debate forum. If your only evidence for your claim is "Well, I believe it" then this isn't the forum for you.

I understand that it is a debate forum. But I guess I'm not in the mood for arguing. I just wanted to answer the OP question, which is what you believe, and I answered it.

And here we go with the "what you believe in is stupid because its not what I believe in" argument. Now I don't want to go there.

My beliefs are backed in two centuries of scientific evidence. They are not stupid.
Your beliefs are in part based on an old book. That is stupid.

Unlike you I don't think that either are stupid.

[Normandywe]

Someday, On The Origin of Species shall also be old. What does its age matter?

The thing is, Darwin's work has been either refined or superseded by on-going work. You can't say that about the holy texts, in fact, the fact that they are the same century after century is a prime part of the creationist agenda. Haven't you heard "Science keeps changing, people thought the world was flat but the Bible is eternal, which makes more sense?"

Perhaps he should have made that point instead of being ambiguous in his ugly and fallacious argument.

[Farnhamia]

The thing is, Darwin's work has been either refined or superseded by on-going work. You can't say that about the holy texts, in fact, the fact that they are the same century after century is a prime part of the creationist agenda. Haven't you heard "Science keeps changing, people thought the world was flat but the Bible is eternal, which makes more sense?"

Perhaps he should have made that point instead of being ambiguous in his ugly and fallacious argument.

Not everyone is as thoughtful and erudite as you and I are.

[Divair]

Perhaps he should have made that point instead of being ambiguous in his ugly and fallacious argument.

Not everyone is as thoughtful and erudite as you and I are.

Shh, you might wake the peasants.

[Farnhamia]

Not everyone is as thoughtful and erudite as you and I are.

Shh, you might wake the peasants.

Nah, we worked them good and hard today.

[Sporkin]

I'm a pantheist, so make of that what you will.

-braces for lynching-

[Divair]

I'm a pantheist, so make of that what you will.

-braces for lynching-

Did you post in the wrong thread?

[Normandywe]

I'm a pantheist, so make of that what you will.

-braces for lynching-

Pantheism does not favor creationism in its philosophy, and is very much compatible with evolution. What's the problem?

[Farnhamia]

I'm a pantheist, so make of that what you will.

-braces for lynching-

Did you post in the wrong thread?

Why do people do that "Please don't flame me" and "Braces for lynching" thing? We're really not that bad, are we?

[Divair]

Did you post in the wrong thread?

Why do people do that "Please don't flame me" and "Braces for lynching" thing? We're really not that bad, are we?

Maybe you aren't. I'm absolutely horrible.

[Frisivisia]

I'm a pantheist, so make of that what you will.

-braces for lynching-

Don't worry little buddy, we'll only lynch you a little bit.

[Normandywe]

Did you post in the wrong thread?

Why do people do that "Please don't flame me" and "Braces for lynching" thing? We're really not that bad, are we?

NationStates users are oftentimes as dull as they are vicious.

[Individuality-ness]

Why do people do that "Please don't flame me" and "Braces for lynching" thing? We're really not that bad, are we?

Maybe you aren't. I'm absolutely horrible.

That's your problem.

[Divair]

Maybe you aren't. I'm absolutely horrible.

That's your problem.

No, it's your problem. I mean my problem. Atheist overlord and all that, remember?

[Sporkin]

I'm a pantheist, so make of that what you will.

-braces for lynching-

Did you post in the wrong thread?

No, I'm just not sure pantheism falls in this debate. I mean, I believe evolution to be logical, and most creationist religions absurd, however I also believe that, at the same time, there's some non-sentient force that made the universe... Happen, I guess.

Whatever developed the quarks, yknow?