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What do you believe in?

Darwinian Evolution
477
67%
Young Earth Creationism
39
6%
Old Earth Creationism
25
4%
Intelligent Design
48
7%
Theistic Evolution
88
12%
Other
30
4%
 
Total votes : 707

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Postby Cocsoah » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Evolution.
And yes, it is possible for a Christian to believe in Evolution. The majority of them (including me) do.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Condunum wrote:
Divair wrote:I'm back. What did I miss?

I'm pretty sure all you missed was a few thread jacks.

So nothing at all. Cool.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:52 pm

Cocsoah wrote:Evolution.
And yes, it is possible for a Christian to believe in Evolution. The majority of them (including me) do.

Okay... I don't recall anyone saying it wasn't possible...
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:05 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Cocsoah wrote:Evolution.
And yes, it is possible for a Christian to believe in Evolution. The majority of them (including me) do.

Okay... I don't recall anyone saying it wasn't possible...


I wonder why people keep bringing it up.

The Catholic Church has agreed that theistic evolution is possible.

Hell, it's one the options in the fucking poll.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:06 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Okay... I don't recall anyone saying it wasn't possible...


I wonder why people keep bringing it up.

The Catholic Church has agreed that theistic evolution is possible.

Hell, it's one the options in the fucking poll.

Everyone wants to be different.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:09 pm

Divair wrote:
Condunum wrote:I'm pretty sure all you missed was a few thread jacks.

So nothing at all. Cool.

There was a few threads from a troll that sprang from this one, but they got locked. Shitty satire.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:12 pm

Condunum wrote:
Divair wrote:So nothing at all. Cool.

There was a few threads from a troll that sprang from this one, but they got locked. Shitty satire.

So literally just the same shit that happened when I was around. I even complained about it (in advance, it seems). Fun.

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Postby Avenio » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:36 pm

Jelani wrote:3. Follow the ten commandments (#3 also applies to Judaism).


Strictly speaking, that's not entirely true. Two of the oldest definitions of what defines a Christian (the Nicene and Apostles' Creeds) don't mention anything about the Ten Commandments.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:18 pm

I love how none of the creationists are even pretending to have any supporting evidence outside of the bible.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:20 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I love how none of the creationists are even pretending to have any supporting evidence outside of the bible.

That's why they are creationists.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:20 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I love how none of the creationists are even pretending to have any supporting evidence outside of the bible.

It's an improvement over the usual...
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:21 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I love how none of the creationists are even pretending to have any supporting evidence outside of the bible.

It's an improvement over the usual...

At least they admit that their source is a freakishly old book.
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Postby Cocacola667 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:26 pm

Evolution and Creationism. Mind blown.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:27 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:Evolution and Creationism. Mind blown.

Make up your mind. Do you support science, or not?
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:29 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:Evolution and Creationism. Mind blown.

Explain.

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Postby Cocacola667 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:30 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Cocacola667 wrote:Evolution and Creationism. Mind blown.

Make up your mind. Do you support science, or not?


Cocsoah wrote:Evolution.
And yes, it is possible for a Christian to believe in Evolution. The majority of them (including me) do.

^^^this

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:30 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:Evolution and Creationism. Mind blown.

Mind not blown.
Plenty of people don't understand science and try to merge it with their antiquated, bullshit beliefs.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:33 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Make up your mind. Do you support science, or not?


Cocsoah wrote:Evolution.
And yes, it is possible for a Christian to believe in Evolution. The majority of them (including me) do.

^^^this

Creationism is not a scientific belief.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:39 pm

Divair wrote:
Cocacola667 wrote:Evolution and Creationism. Mind blown.

Explain.

Any day now.

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Postby Cocacola667 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:45 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Cocacola667 wrote:Evolution and Creationism. Mind blown.

Mind not blown.
Plenty of people don't understand science and try to merge it with their antiquated, bullshit beliefs.

So I'm not allowed to believe in both?

Divair wrote:
Divair wrote:Explain.

Any day now.

Well all I can say is that I believe in both, they both make sense to me.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:46 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Mind not blown.
Plenty of people don't understand science and try to merge it with their antiquated, bullshit beliefs.

So I'm not allowed to believe in both?

Divair wrote:Any day now.

Well all I can say is that I believe in both, they both make sense to me.

Tell me what makes you support creationism. "The Bible" is not a valid answer. I'm asking for arguments and evidence.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:46 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Mind not blown.
Plenty of people don't understand science and try to merge it with their antiquated, bullshit beliefs.

So I'm not allowed to believe in both?

Divair wrote:Any day now.

Well all I can say is that I believe in both, they both make sense to me.

You are allowed, it's just that one is science and the other is an ancient way of explaining things that is wrong on quite a lot of things, and is demonstrably false unless you redefine it so something it never used to mean.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:46 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:So I'm not allowed to believe in both?

You're allowed to, but it would be silly to.

Cocacola667 wrote:Well all I can say is that I believe in both, they both make sense to me.

What makes sense to you is not reality.

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Postby Cocacola667 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:56 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Cocacola667 wrote:So I'm not allowed to believe in both?


Well all I can say is that I believe in both, they both make sense to me.

Tell me what makes you support creationism. "The Bible" is not a valid answer. I'm asking for arguments and evidence.

Well I'm not here to argue, just to make a statement. I was born into a Christian family, not very religious but we try to go to Chuch every Sunday(still dont get how it helps) As for the Bible, it is just a book made by people who see stuff they don't understand and make assumptions.

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Cocacola667 wrote:So I'm not allowed to believe in both?


Well all I can say is that I believe in both, they both make sense to me.

You are allowed, it's just that one is science and the other is an ancient way of explaining things that is wrong on quite a lot of things, and is demonstrably false unless you redefine it so something it never used to mean.

Don't hate people 2000 years ago for getting stuff wrong, they did the best they could.

Divair wrote:
Cocacola667 wrote:So I'm not allowed to believe in both?

You're allowed to, but it would be silly to.

Cocacola667 wrote:Well all I can say is that I believe in both, they both make sense to me.

What makes sense to you is not reality.

I see that you can stand people who don't think like you.

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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:57 pm

Cocacola667 wrote:I see that you can stand people who don't think like you.

Yes, I can deal with people not thinking like me. Now can you stop the derailment and either continue talking about the subject at hand or concede?

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