Creationism vs. Evolution

[Prizea]

The only way Creationism can win is when all suffer under the iron fist of a global theocracy.

The United States of America is not a theocracy.
Within the United States of America, the percentage of people in the U.S. who accept the idea of human evolution declined from 45% in 1985 to 40% in 2005.

Looks like no one told the Americans.

Probably someone did, but they were declared a witch and dunked into a paddling pool. Then burned at the stake.

[The Land of Truth]

The only way Creationism can win is when all suffer under the iron fist of a global theocracy.

The United States of America is not a theocracy.
Within the United States of America, the percentage of people in the U.S. who accept the idea of human evolution declined from 45% in 1985 to 40% in 2005.

Looks like no one told the Americans.

I heard that it declined in the UK, too. What the hell are they doing over there? They're supposed to be the smart ones!

[The Land of Truth]

The United States of America is not a theocracy.
Within the United States of America, the percentage of people in the U.S. who accept the idea of human evolution declined from 45% in 1985 to 40% in 2005.

Looks like no one told the Americans.

Probably someone did, but they were declared a witch and dunked into a paddling pool. Then burned at the stake.

Witches weren't burned in America, they were hanged.

[Blasveck]

The only way Creationism can win is when all suffer under the iron fist of a global theocracy.

The United States of America is not a theocracy.
Within the United States of America, the percentage of people in the U.S. who accept the idea of human evolution declined from 45% in 1985 to 40% in 2005.

Looks like no one told the Americans.

Source? Because I'm hoping you're wrong

[The Land of Truth]

The United States of America is not a theocracy.
Within the United States of America, the percentage of people in the U.S. who accept the idea of human evolution declined from 45% in 1985 to 40% in 2005.

Looks like no one told the Americans.

Source? Because I'm hoping you're wrong

No, he's right.

[Blasveck]

Source? Because I'm hoping you're wrong

No, he's right.

OH GOD WHY?

At the least number of irreligious are growing

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligi ... ted_States

[Prizea]

Probably someone did, but they were declared a witch and dunked into a paddling pool. Then burned at the stake.

Witches weren't burned in America, they were hanged.

And they were hanged pretty much everywhere else too. But burning people at the stake sounds a lot cooler.

[Prizea]

The United States of America is not a theocracy.
Within the United States of America, the percentage of people in the U.S. who accept the idea of human evolution declined from 45% in 1985 to 40% in 2005.

Looks like no one told the Americans.

I heard that it declined in the UK, too. What the hell are they doing over there? They're supposed to be the smart ones!

Lets blame it on immigrants. Coming over here and making us look stupid!
(Not that any of our politicians need any help with that).

[The Holy Michigan Empire]

Witches weren't burned in America, they were hanged.

And they were hanged pretty much everywhere else too. But burning people at the stake sounds a lot hotter.

Fixed.

[The Land of Truth]

No, he's right.

OH GOD WHY?

At the least number of irreligious are growing

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligi ... ted_States

Yes, thank God. Te-he.

[Conscentia]

The United States of America is not a theocracy.
Within the United States of America, the percentage of people in the U.S. who accept the idea of human evolution declined from 45% in 1985 to 40% in 2005.
Looks like no one told the Americans.

I heard that it declined in the UK, too. What the hell are they doing over there? They're supposed to be the smart ones!

Blame Gove.

[Hurdegaryp]

I heard that it declined in the UK, too. What the hell are they doing over there? They're supposed to be the smart ones!

Blame Gove.

Also blame the damage done by American evangelicals in Great Britain. Those people are like poison.

[Stolen Droplets]

So uh...what you're all saying is...

You think a Divine Being like God cant do Darwinian Evolution?

Cuz I think God can do it...he is Divine...he knows what we know. Don't you think he could do some of the same things science can? I like to think so.

That is theistic evolution, which I see nothing wrong with. I mean, if you try to reconcile your belief system to not void God that's okay, as long as you don't say evolution is bullshit.

Now, Creationism and Intelligent Design? Yea, I prefer to not really engage in the topic.

Yes i can keep them apart. Evolution makes alot of sense. I'm Catholic and Pro-Choice/Pro-LGBT rights. I got sense in me lolz....not like the zealots...I'm not gonna defend my religion or attack religion...i dont got the energy for it.

[The Rich Port]

So uh...what you're all saying is...

You think a Divine Being like God cant do Darwinian Evolution?

Cuz I think God can do it...he is Divine...he knows what we know. Don't you think he could do some of the same things science can? I like to think so.

That is theistic evolution, which I see nothing wrong with. I mean, if you try to reconcile your belief system to not void God that's okay, as long as you don't say evolution is bullshit.

Now, Creationism and Intelligent Design? Yea, I prefer to not really engage in the topic.

Belief in a God comes with a whole bunch of bullshit other than evolution.

The main contention of most people who have a problem with religions.

[The Grey Wolf]

No, he's right.

OH GOD WHY?

At the least number of irreligious are growing

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligi ... ted_States

How is that any better? It's like:
"I just drunk Anti-Freeze."
"Oh God why!?"
"At least a growing number of people are drinking kerosense."

[European Socialist Republic]

OH GOD WHY?

At the least number of irreligious are growing

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligi ... ted_States

How is that any better? It's like:
"I just drunk Anti-Freeze."
"Oh God why!?"
"At least a growing number of people are drinking kerosense."

No it isn't. Drinking anti-free or kerosene is bad. Less people believing in evolution is also bad. But more people becoming irreligious isn't bad.

[The Nuclear Fist]

How is that any better? It's like:
"I just drunk Anti-Freeze."
"Oh God why!?"
"At least a growing number of people are drinking kerosense."

Unless you're trying to say that irreligious beliefs poision people (and boy would I like to see a source for that), that is giant fucking non sequitur.

[Shamhnan Insir]

Evolution seems to work in my book. However I do have a little trouble with pure atheist view that we are simply vehicles for DNA to make it to the next generation. To me something drives life onward, with some possessing more of a "will to live" than others. I think that it is only people such as Ernest Shackleton, who have struggled to survive against unimaginable odds, who can say what it means to be alive.
There's a good book, called "The Third Man Factor" by John Geiger that discusses people who have survived incredible struggle.

[The Rich Port]

Evolution seems to work in my book. However I do have a little trouble with pure atheist view that we are simply vehicles for DNA to make it to the next generation. To me something drives life onward, with some possessing more of a "will to live" than others. I think that it is only people such as Ernest Shackleton, who have struggled to survive against unimaginable odds, who can say what it means to be alive.
There's a good book, called "The Third Man Factor" by John Geiger that discusses people who have survived incredible struggle.

So... Because people have a will to live, evolution is flawed?

[Bottle]

Evolution seems to work in my book. However I do have a little trouble with pure atheist view that we are simply vehicles for DNA to make it to the next generation.

We are.

And the giant box in my living room was simply a means of transporting our new table and chairs. Didn't stop me from making a totally rad fort out of it.

Your physical body, including your brain and mind, is nothing more or less than a distended sack of proteins (and lots of bacteria). So use it for whatever glorious shit you can come up with.

[Josh Beaty]

Isn't Creationism a facet of Intelligent Design? I am fairly certain they are one and the same so why is there a seperate option for intelligent design?

[San Splendido]

Isn't Creationism a facet of Intelligent Design? I am fairly certain they are one and the same so why is there a seperate option for intelligent design?

Because cdesign proponentsists have convinced some people that they are not. It's really quite a big propaganda coup.

[Prizea]

Evolution seems to work in my book.

Do the words keep evolving?

[The Rich Port]

Isn't Creationism a facet of Intelligent Design? I am fairly certain they are one and the same so why is there a seperate option for intelligent design?

It is, but in a different syntax.

This creator they're not sure who he is, but most proponents believe is the Christian God, caused the Big Bang, created stars, Earth, etc., created life on Earth and guided it along it's evolutionary path.

Isn't Creationism a facet of Intelligent Design? I am fairly certain they are one and the same so why is there a seperate option for intelligent design?

cdesign proponentsists

I wonder if we're the only ones who know what that refers to.

For anyone who doesn't know, look up Kitzmiller v. Dover School District.

[Utceforp]

Evolution seems to work in my book. However I do have a little trouble with pure atheist view that we are simply vehicles for DNA to make it to the next generation. To me something drives life onward, with some possessing more of a "will to live" than others. I think that it is only people such as Ernest Shackleton, who have struggled to survive against unimaginable odds, who can say what it means to be alive.
There's a good book, called "The Third Man Factor" by John Geiger that discusses people who have survived incredible struggle.

Animals with a will to live survive longer than suicidal animals, allowing them to reproduce more, allowing the "able to survive incredible struggle" gene(s) to become more common than the "dies and gives up" gene(s). Having a will to live is evidence for evolution, not against it.