Creationism vs. Evolution

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Then why not the other complex species, why only primates?

Because for most of the time before the rise of mammals, reptiles were dominant. Dinosaurs may have been evolving more intelligence slowly.

But the enormous space-rock put paid to that, and it was only 65 million years ago that mammals got the chance to become dominant. Once Homo sapiens and earlier hominids evolved, they began busily exterminating all competition, reducing drastically the opportunities for anything else to evolve human-like intelligence.

That'd be my take on it, as someone with no qualifications in biology.

So mammals are the only species that survived after that cataclysm? And they alone are the only complex organisms that somehow, earlier on, the only species that already evolved a competitive matrix? Thanks for the wikipedia source, its very reliable.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Because for most of the time before the rise of mammals, reptiles were dominant. Dinosaurs may have been evolving more intelligence slowly.

But the enormous space-rock put paid to that, and it was only 65 million years ago that mammals got the chance to become dominant. Once Homo sapiens and earlier hominids evolved, they began busily exterminating all competition, reducing drastically the opportunities for anything else to evolve human-like intelligence.

That'd be my take on it, as someone with no qualifications in biology.

So mammals are the only species that survived after that cataclysm?

Please do point out where I said that.

I said they became dominant. Mammals aren't a species, they're a class. Other classes survived too; birds, some reptiles and many other classes and their constituent species.

And they alone are the only complex organisms that somehow, earlier on, the only species that already evolved a competitive matrix?

What the hell does that mean?

[Hurdegaryp]

Shouldn't all apes and monkeys have evolved into human beings by now?

"If Americans descend from Europeans, how come there are still Europeans?"

Representatives of the First Nations might want to have a word with you.

[Ayreonia]

Because for most of the time before the rise of mammals, reptiles were dominant. Dinosaurs may have been evolving more intelligence slowly.

But the enormous space-rock put paid to that, and it was only 65 million years ago that mammals got the chance to become dominant. Once Homo sapiens and earlier hominids evolved, they began busily exterminating all competition, reducing drastically the opportunities for anything else to evolve human-like intelligence.

That'd be my take on it, as someone with no qualifications in biology.

So mammals are the only species that survived after that cataclysm? And they alone are the only complex organisms that somehow, earlier on, the only species that already evolved a competitive matrix? Thanks for the wikipedia source, its very reliable.

I'll ask again: what's your point? That mammals are the chosen ones? The proto-Israelites?

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Shouldn't all apes and monkeys have evolved into human beings by now?

"If Americans descend from Europeans, how come there are still Europeans?"

I highly doubt Europeans do not possess considerable intelligence and consciousness, and I also doubt a European and an American is comparable to an ape and a human being. That made me laugh though.

[Immoren]

"If Americans descend from Europeans, how come there are still Europeans?"

Representatives of the First Nations might want to have a word with you.

It's bad comparison. Yes I know. I should've put disclaimer and different things.
But I've seen used it as example.

[Hurdegaryp]

And they alone are the only complex organisms that somehow, earlier on, the only species that already evolved a competitive matrix?

What the hell does that mean?

It means that this new challenger considers this thread his personal Pokémon Battle Arena.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

So mammals are the only species that survived after that cataclysm? And they alone are the only complex organisms that somehow, earlier on, the only species that already evolved a competitive matrix? Thanks for the wikipedia source, its very reliable.

I'll ask again: what's your point? That mammals are the chosen ones? The proto-Israelites?

Well, the way you spoke of Evolution and how you presented it to me, I think they are.

[Ayreonia]

I'll ask again: what's your point? That mammals are the chosen ones? The proto-Israelites?

Well, the way you spoke of Evolution and how you presented it to me, I think they are.

Okay.

Chosen by who?

[Soviet Central]

Its impossible to tell which answer is correct. Its only possible to tell which answer is most probably correct. We do that, by looking on evidence. From all given options, only Darwin's evolution have evidence pointing at it. Rest of options have literally no proof supporting them, therefore even if one of those other options did turn out to be correct, its only logical to believe in Darwin until.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Well, the way you spoke of Evolution and how you presented it to me, I think they are.

Okay.

Chosen by who?

Well, I'm the one looking for answers. Who do you think did it?

[Ayreonia]

Okay.

Chosen by who?

Well, I'm the one looking for answers. Who do you think did it?

Nobody. It just happened.

[Immoren]

Getting lazy

[Hurdegaryp]

Okay.

Chosen by who?

Well, I'm the one looking for answers. Who do you think did it?

And here we learn what Arkhanic Assassins agenda actually is: he tries to shove intelligent design through our collective throats. I knew there was something fishy about the guy.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Well, I'm the one looking for answers. Who do you think did it?

Nobody. It just happened.

Well....I wasn't expecting that...that was unsatisfactory. But you can't know anything and everything.. I guess I'm done.

[Hurdegaryp]

Nobody. It just happened.

Well....I wasn't expecting that...that was unsatisfactory. But you can't know anything and everything.. I guess I'm done.

Game over. Play again?

[Ayreonia]

Nobody. It just happened.

Well....I wasn't expecting that...that was unsatisfactory. But you can't know anything and everything.. I guess I'm done.

What were you expecting? That I'd say God designed us?

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Well, I'm the one looking for answers. Who do you think did it?

And here we learn what Arkhanic Assassins agenda actually is: he tries to shove intelligent design through our collective throats. I knew there was something fishy about the guy.

I am not shoving anything down your collective throats (whatever that is) I'm simply here asking questions And if you can't handle it, I can't help you. Of all the people here, you're the only one who hasn't filled me in with the concept.

[Surfistan]

Guess what kids!

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Well....I wasn't expecting that...that was unsatisfactory. But you can't know anything and everything.. I guess I'm done.

What were you expecting? That I'd say God designed us?

Well, if you said that, I'm gonna have to ask you how God did it. And the discussion will go on.

[Arkhanic Assassins]

Well....I wasn't expecting that...that was unsatisfactory. But you can't know anything and everything.. I guess I'm done.

Game over. Play again?

I sense a deep insecurity on this one. Well goodnight folks.

[Hurdegaryp]

What were you expecting? That I'd say God designed us?

Well, if you said that, I'm gonna have to ask you how God did it. And the discussion will go on.

But unfortunately you cannot have your intelligent design rave. We refuse to comply to your mechanisms.

Game over. Play again?

I sense a deep insecurity on this one. Well goodnight folks.

That's one way to convince yourself you've won.

[Normandywe]

There has never been a single reasonable nor civil debate concerning evolution and creationism.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

There has never been a single reasonable nor civil debate concerning evolution and creationism.

Civility has no bearing on validity.

And no, there have been reasonable debates. Plenty.

[Hurdegaryp]

There has never been a single reasonable nor civil debate concerning evolution and creationism.

Civility has no bearing on validity.

And no, there have been reasonable debates. Plenty.

On this forum?