Edward Snowden Discussion Thread

[Dilange]

He still had access to highly sensitive information in the NSA system while working for Booz Allen, which he only worked there for less than 3 months.

Well, just saying, privileged access is required for the job. The majority of the NSA's systems use RHEL, root is root.

He did work with the CIA, so maybe from there? I do not know much about computer systems.....

[Death Metal]

Quite brave.

What's he gonna do, go Rambo on Fort Meade? He's done what he can.

How about stay in the US? Instead of running only to be extradited back to the US?

He might eventually get pardoned. Better to be a free man than in a dingy prison cell in the mean time.

[Slave Nuts]

So can we hope for a Taksim square in USA?

[Meryuma]

Not a traitor, not necessarily a patriot, a cool guy.

[Seleucas]

He needs to be given a medal; I wish more people would expose the government's power grabs in the name of its phony War on Terror.

[Dilange]

How about stay in the US? Instead of running only to be extradited back to the US?

He might eventually get pardoned. Better to be a free man than in a dingy prison cell in the mean time.

True, but he may have to sit in a box on the streets on HK if he maxes out his credit.

[Maurepas]

Quite brave.

What's he gonna do, go Rambo on Fort Meade? He's done what he can.

How about stay in the US? Instead of running only to be extradited back to the US?

Meh, being stupid isn't the same as being brave. It was a brave act to take that risk, it would be a stupid one to stay afterwards, and I don't fault the man for not being stupid.

[Dilange]

How about stay in the US? Instead of running only to be extradited back to the US?

Meh, being stupid isn't the same as being brave. It was a brave act to take that risk, it would be a stupid one to stay afterwards, and I don't fault the man for not being stupid.

Why? The only safe places he can run are in nations with no relations with US. HK isnt one of those.

[Lemanrussland]

Quite brave.

What's he gonna do, go Rambo on Fort Meade? He's done what he can.

How about stay in the US? Instead of running only to be extradited back to the US?

What difference does it make? It doesn't change the merit of his actions. (It may affect his image, but that's about it)

[Sposl]

I love what he did and think it was exposing important information. However, it was treason. There's really no way to get around the fact that its treason, and if he comes back to the country, he should be sentenced to jail. I hope he's not idiotic enough to come back however.

[Maurepas]

Meh, being stupid isn't the same as being brave. It was a brave act to take that risk, it would be a stupid one to stay afterwards, and I don't fault the man for not being stupid.

Why? The only safe places he can run are in nations with no relations with US. HK isnt one of those.

Idk, Julian Assange seems to be going pretty strong. Hong Kong may or may not necessarily be the best choice, but staying in the US would've been nothing but stupid. Not brave, not cowardly, just stupid.

[Des-Bal]

What difference does it make? It doesn't change the merit of his actions. (It may affect his image, but that's about it)

I think that's why Ghandi fled the police shrieking that it did not change the merit of his actions.

[Dilange]

How about stay in the US? Instead of running only to be extradited back to the US?

What difference does it make? It doesn't change the merit of his actions. (It may affect his image, but that's about it)

None. But in an evaluation of character, he ran which is pretty bad. While it doesnt affect what he did, which what he did was brave, it affects how he looks to ordinary folks.

[Maurepas]

What difference does it make? It doesn't change the merit of his actions. (It may affect his image, but that's about it)

I think that's why Ghandi fled the police shrieking that it did not change the merit of his actions.

Ghandi wasn't a whistleblower. Getting caught by the police was the point of his actions. Two different situations.

[Lemanrussland]

What difference does it make? It doesn't change the merit of his actions. (It may affect his image, but that's about it)

I think that's why Ghandi fled the police shrieking that it did not change the merit of his actions.

Shrieking... nice hyperbole there.

At this point, your opinion is irrelevant to me, seeing as you're clearly on the NSA's side.

[Dilange]

Why? The only safe places he can run are in nations with no relations with US. HK isnt one of those.

Idk, Julian Assange seems to be going pretty strong. Hong Kong may or may not necessarily be the best choice, but staying in the US would've been nothing but stupid. Not brave, not cowardly, just stupid.

Julian Assange also had a very large roots backing which saved him. I personally do not like Assaange, so Id rather not talk about him, but comparing Snowden to Assange is like comparing some newly elected mayor to George Washington.

[Des-Bal]

Shrieking... nice hyperbole there.

At this point, your opinion is irrelevant to me, seeing as you're clearly on the NSA's side.

I disagree with your opinion, it is therefore irrelevant. Nice attitude.

I'm on the side of the law. If the program is illegal he's in the right, if it's not he's a traitor and he should be killed.

[Death Metal]

What difference does it make? It doesn't change the merit of his actions. (It may affect his image, but that's about it)

None. But in an evaluation of character, he ran which is pretty bad.

Again: The Fugitive.

[Lemanrussland]

Shrieking... nice hyperbole there.

At this point, your opinion is irrelevant to me, seeing as you're clearly on the NSA's side.

I disagree with your opinion, it is therefore irrelevant. Nice attitude.

I'm on the side of the law. If the program is illegal he's in the right, if it's not he's a traitor and he should be killed.

If Constitutional law mattered to you, you would up in arms over this. In truth, you're on the side of the state, not the law.

[Dilange]

None. But in an evaluation of character, he ran which is pretty bad.

Again: The Fugitive.

Never seen it.

[Maurepas]

Idk, Julian Assange seems to be going pretty strong. Hong Kong may or may not necessarily be the best choice, but staying in the US would've been nothing but stupid. Not brave, not cowardly, just stupid.

Julian Assange also had a very large roots backing which saved him. I personally do not like Assaange, so Id rather not talk about him, but comparing Snowden to Assange is like comparing some newly elected mayor to George Washington.

A Smart Car isn't the size of an 18-Wheeler, that doesn't mean they aren't both automobiles. The point is they're both whistleblowers, and both have the US Government after them.

And I don't know about that. The way this story is going, I'm willing to bet those sames roots backing groups will probably be willing to help Snowden. I would hope so anyway.

[Malvoro]

And in Indiana Jones and Star Wars. I wish that Darth Vader could have teamed up with the Nazis and the Aztecs to kick his ass.

Wasn't the Galactic Empire basically Space Nazis? I mean, the Extended Universe has them as outright speciest.

Officer uniforms of the Empire looked outright SS, knee boots and chest straps, all black.

[Maurepas]

Shrieking... nice hyperbole there.

At this point, your opinion is irrelevant to me, seeing as you're clearly on the NSA's side.

I disagree with your opinion, it is therefore irrelevant. Nice attitude.

I'm on the side of the law. If the program is illegal he's in the right, if it's not he's a traitor and he should be killed.

Meh. There's little doubt what he did was illegal, and I could even see calling him a traitor, at least to the US Government.

But sometimes you have to be an illegal traitor to be a hero, ask the US Founding Fathers, for example.

[Des-Bal]

If Constitutional law mattered to you, you would up in arms over this. In truth, you're on the side of the state, not the law.

Constitutional law does matter to me I just don't recognize your authority to interpret the constitution.

[Dilange]

Julian Assange also had a very large roots backing which saved him. I personally do not like Assaange, so Id rather not talk about him, but comparing Snowden to Assange is like comparing some newly elected mayor to George Washington.

A Smart Car isn't the size of an 18-Wheeler, that doesn't mean they aren't both automobiles. The point is they're both whistleblowers, and both have the US Government after them.

And I don't know about that. The way this story is going, I'm willing to bet those sames roots backing groups will probably be willing to help Snowden. I would hope so anyway.

Yes, Snowden and Assange are the same in what they did...however Assange did it to MULTIPLE government at a LARGER scale. I mean, Snowden may get some of the backing that Assange had, but probably not its magnitude.