Defense of Obamacare

[AiliailiA]

I feel as though if that we're to occur, we'd rapidly see an increase in wool production and products.

We would, among other affects. But I don't seriously support that proposal, it is my default reponse to attacks on fiat currency as it allows me to point out that gold/silver/etc. are even more fiat than paper. If a currency is to be in use, which I don't support, then it should be a fiat currency and should specifically be a paper/coin currency.

Sheep would be bad currency. The "yearly dividend" in wool and perhaps milk would encourage hoarding.

Nobody laughed the first time I posted this ...

Totally untrue, most countries operate on a Fiat currency system which is not backed by any precious metals.

Good morning. I'd like to buy some gold. Ten grains. What's your price?
One Fiat per grain, sir. Cheaper at the half ounce.
Fiats? I have a BMW, what's the exchange rate?
I'm sorry sir, we used to take German marques, but Europe you know ...
Well, American Bucks then. What's your price?
I'm afraid we can't accept livestock sir. Come back when you have a Fiat.

[Vazdania]

Walmart is poisonous and I don't buy from there. Do you realize that they don't provide most of their employees with health insurance??? thus making their employees mooch off of the public system.

Very good, you art learning apprentice. Now then Coca-Cola will serve as my next example in my long line of poisonous corporations.

BLASPHEMY!!! Coca-Cola tastes good and is amazing in general.

Walmart sells cheap shit from China that breaks easily and is low quality.

[Wikkiwallana]

Very good, you art learning apprentice. Now then Coca-Cola will serve as my next example in my long line of poisonous corporations.

BLASPHEMY!!! Coca-Cola tastes good and is amazing in general.

Walmart sells cheap shit from China that breaks easily and is low quality.

They'll also shut down an entire store if an employee so much as says the word "union". I wish that were hyperbole.

[AiliailiA]

4years, I will judge you harshly if you kick the puppy too hard

[4years]

Very good, you art learning apprentice. Now then Coca-Cola will serve as my next example in my long line of poisonous corporations.

BLASPHEMY!!! Coca-Cola tastes good and is amazing in general.

Walmart sells cheap shit from China that breaks easily and is low quality.

Coca-Cola has a rather unfortunate tendency to terminate the employment of trade unionists in Columbia in a rather permanat manner.

[4years]

4years, I will judge you harshly if you kick the puppy too hard

There, I avoided saying it outright. Happy?

[4years]

Hint: there isn't.

Gold = shiny = good, obviously.

Gold is still a fiat currency.

[AiliailiA]

4years, I will judge you harshly if you kick the puppy too hard

There, I avoided saying it outright. Happy?

No, not hard enough. The completely different explanation for not shopping at Kmart, offered for consistency with the evasive reason for liking Coke, could have been rather tellingly compared to the first explanation. I'd also have pressed for further clarification of "amazing in General": does that mean their advertising style, the range of wonderful Coke merchandise available? Perhaps the sheer middle Americaness of government-subsidized corn syrup goodness?

Actually, now I think about it, sarcasm might not work. Carry on.

[Edlichbury]

Gold = shiny = good, obviously.

Gold is still a fiat currency.

Mostly true, but slightly debatable. Adam Smith wrote on that and pointed out that in the rare cases where gold functioned more as a valuable good (desirous mostly for jewelry,) almost always the economy suffered since no one bought things with the gold, but instead tried to trade it to jewelers for more than the currency was worth. Especially if someone had gold bullion as opposed to gold currency.

[Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich]

Maybe this is just an observation, but it seems like most the people on this game, or atleast those involved in the forums/WA tend to be Liberal slanted.

I guess that's evidenced in the support for sodomy , beastiality, pedophilia and homosexuality amongst the WA members. Nothing in my opinion is more disgusting than a man 'making love' to another man. Just the thought makes me shudder, let alone to think you can let these disgusting slugs get together and call it 'marriage'.

The main reason i left WA.

That being said, Obamacare is ineffective. It simply adds complexity ontop of an already complex, corrupt and overburdened system of taxation, subsidy, patchwork benefits, tax returns etc.

The entirety of the American tax/benefit/welfare system needs overhauled and simplified. Think Taiwan's health service and a flat tax with no loopholes for simplification. Any American can tell you that the IRS and it's requirements and regulations(much like any government branch these days in the U.S.) is rediculously overcomplicated for the average worker. Plus it gives too much power to the IRS and gives back too many loopholes to the rich.

[Czervenika]

As a non-American I don't know too much about Obamacare. From what I heard it just essentially forces people to buy insurance. How that is supposed to help poor people exactly I do not know. Obamacare is a disappointment.

[Dalmacie]

Maybe this is just an observation, but it seems like most the people on this game, or atleast those involved in the forums/WA tend to be Liberal slanted.

I guess that's evidenced in the support for sodomy , beastiality, pedophilia and homosexuality amongst the WA members. Nothing in my opinion is more disgusting than a man 'making love' to another man. Just the thought makes me shudder, let alone to think you can let these disgusting slugs get together and call it 'marriage'.

The main reason i left WA.

That being said, Obamacare is ineffective. It simply adds complexity ontop of an already complex, corrupt and overburdened system of taxation, subsidy, patchwork benefits, tax returns etc.

The entirety of the American tax/benefit/welfare system needs overhauled and simplified. Think Taiwan's health service and a flat tax with no loopholes for simplification. Any American can tell you that the IRS and it's requirements and regulations(much like any government branch these days in the U.S.) is rediculously overcomplicated for the average worker. Plus it gives too much power to the IRS and gives back too many loopholes to the rich.

And your nice little story has what to do with this topic exactly?

[Ucropi]

As someone with free healthcare (hurr durr it's not free you have to pay for it with taxes) I have to say, god damn American's are stupid

[Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich]

And your nice little story has what to do with this topic exactly?

It has to do with a large amount of support for Obamacare here, which hold a view which is a minority view in the U.S. but which is overrepresented here in the forums. I think that needed to be stated for posterity. My story of homosexual support amongst the members here was to help support my viewpoint that liberal views are over represented here in comparison to the population of the world(and indeed, the United States) at large. I think that should be taken into account when reading the forums here that support for obamacare in general and principal is going to be a given for the most part.

[Dalmacie]

And your nice little story has what to do with this topic exactly?

It has to do with a large amount of support for Obamacare here, which hold a view which is a minority view in the U.S. but which is overrepresented here in the forums. I think that needed to be stated for posterity. My story of homosexual support amongst the members here was to help support my viewpoint that liberal views are over represented here in comparison to the population of the world(and indeed, the United States) at large. I think that should be taken into account when reading the forums here that support for obamacare in general and principal is going to be a given for the most part.

Interesting.

However, the topic is Obamacare. Not the forums' liberal leaning, nor the homosexuality/pedophilia/zoophilia/necrophilia whatever twist.

Obamacare. Let's stick to the topic please.

[Trezchoix]

I think it had good intentions but, You shouldn't force a small business owner to pay for medical if they cant afford it. They should go with a socialized health care IF they can prove A) It works & is efficient B) It will never accumulate debt exceeding large amounts & WILL pay for its self. C) ONLY CITZENS or people going through the legal process to become a citzen get free treatment. D) certain treatments dont apply like plastic surgery.


But in the U.S. we have bigger issues
1.****** Run away debt******
2. Education
3. Our Border Security

The debt we need to cut or else we wont be to worried about health care but weather or not were gunna eat. You cant have a frist world nation without properly educated people.

[Dooom35796821595]

If he wants to do it right, impose a 5% base rate tax on all pay checks and use that for a national health service. Although America has a worse fat problem then the UK, so you might want to exclude Texas

[Solsteim]

I would defend obamacare from the, mostly unfounded, conservative attacks on it. But I really can't defend a bill that forces people to give money to corporations that created America's problem with healthcare in the first place.