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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:49 pm

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The Hunger Games has nothing to do with Disney. It's also not targeted to little children. So that has nothing to do with Disney movies nor teaching girls whether anorexia is beautiful or not.


Again Its just not Disney its all entertainment companies. Also you seemed to ignore my post on them making Merida skinnier and have you seen the Disney princesses lately they are way to skinny and don't say they aren't skinny just because their dresses are poofed up.
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They reflect society's image of beauty because they want to sell, so what is objectionable about it?

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:49 pm

Well if children don't like Disney channel, there is either Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network if you have just basic cable. Take your pick?
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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:53 pm

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Again Its just not Disney its all entertainment companies. Also you seemed to ignore my post on them making Merida skinnier and have you seen the Disney princesses lately they are way to skinny and don't say they aren't skinny just because their dresses are poofed up.
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They reflect society's image of beauty because they want to sell, so what is objectionable about it?


So beauty is being anorexic and its ok to say that because companies want to sell. Lets see people's health vs Greedy corporations getting money, I would rather have healthy people rather than greedy corporations getting money.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:53 pm

Saiwania wrote:Well if children don't like Disney channel, there is either Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network if you have just basic cable. Take your pick?


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They reflect society's image of beauty because they want to sell, so what is objectionable about it?


So beauty is being anorexic and its ok to say that because companies want to sell. Lets see people's health vs Greedy corporations getting money, I would rather have healthy people rather than greedy corporations getting money.


That's the parent's job- they are the ones raising the children. If the children decides to slavishly follow what the television tells them, then, obviously, the parents are failures who aren't fit to raise a child. The media is only out to make money, and presenting a sellable image is part of that operation.

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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:59 pm

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So beauty is being anorexic and its ok to say that because companies want to sell. Lets see people's health vs Greedy corporations getting money, I would rather have healthy people rather than greedy corporations getting money.


That's the parent's job- they are the ones raising the children. If the children decides to slavishly follow what the television tells them, then, obviously, the parents are failures who aren't fit to raise a child. The media is only out to make money, and presenting a sellable image is part of that operation.


Wow just wow that is just sick. Actually no wait how about parents stop having their kids watch tv then that will take all the money from greedy corporate slobs. Yes parents have a responsibility but when kids see that television states that society will only see you as beautiful if you are anorexic kids won't listen to parents because they want the society to see them as beautiful.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:04 pm

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That's the parent's job- they are the ones raising the children. If the children decides to slavishly follow what the television tells them, then, obviously, the parents are failures who aren't fit to raise a child. The media is only out to make money, and presenting a sellable image is part of that operation.


Wow just wow that is just sick. Actually no wait how about parents stop having their kids watch tv then that will take all the money from greedy corporate slobs. Yes parents have a responsibility but when kids see that television states that society will only see you as beautiful if you are anorexic kids won't listen to parents because they want the society to see them as beautiful.


So, because the parents can't develop their child's self-esteem enough that they must shape themselves according to what the television tells them, we should blame companies for doing what they are supposed to do, make money. If people find skinny people attractive, so what? That sells, and they tailor to that. If they don't, they won't make money. If parents are shit, and their children do turn up anorexic, it is the parent's fault for being shit.
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Wow just wow that is just sick. Actually no wait how about parents stop having their kids watch tv then that will take all the money from greedy corporate slobs. Yes parents have a responsibility but when kids see that television states that society will only see you as beautiful if you are anorexic kids won't listen to parents because they want the society to see them as beautiful.


So, because the parents can't develop their child's self-esteem enough that they must shape themselves according to what the television tells them, we should blame companies for doing what they are supposed to do, make money. If people find skinny people attractive, so what? That sells, and they tailor to that. If they don't, they won't make money. If parents are shit, and their children do turn up anorexic, it is the parent's fault for being shit.


Again health matters more and most people do not find anorexic people attractive. Again your kids won't listen to their parents because corporate slobs are saying you can only be beautiful if your anorexic. Parents try their best but corporate slobs are telling kids otherwise. People should not tailor to what corporate slobs say is beautiful. Health takes precedent over corporate slobs money.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:13 pm

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So, because the parents can't develop their child's self-esteem enough that they must shape themselves according to what the television tells them, we should blame companies for doing what they are supposed to do, make money. If people find skinny people attractive, so what? That sells, and they tailor to that. If they don't, they won't make money. If parents are shit, and their children do turn up anorexic, it is the parent's fault for being shit.


Again health matters more and most people do not find anorexic people attractive. Again your kids won't listen to their parents because corporate slobs are saying you can only be beautiful if your anorexic. Parents try their best but corporate slobs are telling kids otherwise. People should not tailor to what corporate slobs say is beautiful. Health takes precedent over corporate slobs money.


If your kids won't listen to you, you are a failure already. And if the corporate slobs sells a sellable image, there is nothing wrong with that because he's trying to make money. These busybodies are all fucking shit parents who can't take care of their own children, and blame their inability to the evil corporate slobs.

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Postby Oceasia » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:14 pm

It's worse for girls than it is for boys. In other words, yes.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:15 pm

Ifreann wrote:And therefore, they aren't harmful to children now. Because the people who made them were sincere in their racism and sexism. Right.


Disney is free to remake their cartoons and movies, but they should not dare to alter the originals for censorship. It is crucial to film history that the original movies be left intact as they were created and not edited to make it so that it won't possibly offend anyone.
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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:18 pm

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Again health matters more and most people do not find anorexic people attractive. Again your kids won't listen to their parents because corporate slobs are saying you can only be beautiful if your anorexic. Parents try their best but corporate slobs are telling kids otherwise. People should not tailor to what corporate slobs say is beautiful. Health takes precedent over corporate slobs money.


If your kids won't listen to you, you are a failure already. And if the corporate slobs sells a sellable image, there is nothing wrong with that because he's trying to make money. These busybodies are all fucking shit parents who can't take care of their own children, and blame their inability to the evil corporate slobs.


If your children won't listen to you because corporate slobs promote you are not a complete failure you try the best you can but corporate slobs will continue to promote kids not to listen. Your entire argument is that corporate slobs need to make money and they'll promote anything to do get it and that is alright. Its not alright its sick.
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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:19 pm

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Ifreann wrote:And therefore, they aren't harmful to children now. Because the people who made them were sincere in their racism and sexism. Right.


Disney is free to remake their cartoons and movies, but they should not dare to alter the originals for censorship. It is crucial to film history that the original movies be left intact as they were created and not edited to make it so that it won't possibly offend anyone.


I'm not saying they need censorship I'm saying they need to stop promoting anorexia by making princesses anorexic.
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Postby The Marxist State » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:20 pm

Matta wrote:Again Its just not Disney its all entertainment companies. Also you seemed to ignore my post on them making Merida skinnier and have you seen the Disney princesses lately they are way to skinny and don't say they aren't skinny just because their dresses are poofed up.
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They made Snow White thinner than she is in the movie. Just in case you thought Disney sending horrible messages to children was a thing of the past.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:22 pm

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If your kids won't listen to you, you are a failure already. And if the corporate slobs sells a sellable image, there is nothing wrong with that because he's trying to make money. These busybodies are all fucking shit parents who can't take care of their own children, and blame their inability to the evil corporate slobs.


If your children won't listen to you because corporate slobs promote you are not a complete failure you try the best you can but corporate slobs will continue to promote kids not to listen. Your entire argument is that corporate slobs need to make money and they'll promote anything to do get it and that is alright. Its not alright its sick.


Don't fucking excuse yourself- this has been happening for quite a while, and, guess what, most children grew up normal. Coroporate slobs, as you call them, are out to make money, and to this end, they sell products, promote those products, market them, etc. If you can't be arsed to teach your children the difference between television and reality, and can't be bothered to take care of your children's health, then you really are a failure, and you should look to yourself rather than blaming these good people who are doing an honest day's living.

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Postby The Marxist State » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:22 pm

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Ifreann wrote:And therefore, they aren't harmful to children now. Because the people who made them were sincere in their racism and sexism. Right.


Disney is free to remake their cartoons and movies, but they should not dare to alter the originals for censorship. It is crucial to film history that the original movies be left intact as they were created and not edited to make it so that it won't possibly offend anyone.


Whether any Disney "fairy tale" film with the possible exception of Snow White (for being the first big Disney success) is actually all that important to the study of "film history" is up for debate.

Usually they're vapid, gross oversimplifications of the tales they're based on, and culturally and historically inaccurate (look at Mulan and ESPECIALLY Pocahontas)
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Postby Curiosityness » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:31 pm

I wouldn't say so. Although I think the shows now are really dumb
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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:32 pm

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If your children won't listen to you because corporate slobs promote you are not a complete failure you try the best you can but corporate slobs will continue to promote kids not to listen. Your entire argument is that corporate slobs need to make money and they'll promote anything to do get it and that is alright. Its not alright its sick.


Don't fucking excuse yourself- this has been happening for quite a while, and, guess what, most children grew up normal. Coroporate slobs, as you call them, are out to make money, and to this end, they sell products, promote those products, market them, etc. If you can't be arsed to teach your children the difference between television and reality, and can't be bothered to take care of your children's health, then you really are a failure, and you should look to yourself rather than blaming these good people who are doing an honest day's living.


Have you seen kids today. Half the girls at my school are anorexic. The boys and girls at my school are exactly like on tv when they were younger. So no most kids did not grow up normal most of them are like kids on tv that they grew up with. Corporate slobs have no excuse for telling kids its okay to not listen to parents, that to be beautiful you need to be anorexic. Also if corporate slobs tell kids to not listen to parents then how will parents be able to show kids the difference between TV and reality. Corporate slobs are not good people and are not earning a honest day's living. Quit trying to defend greedy corrupt corporate slobs. Yes disney was good before but it has been getting worse for years now. Parents also do care for their kids health but when kids want to be like the princesses they won't listen to their parents.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:40 pm

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Have you seen kids today. Half the girls at my school are anorexic. The boys and girls at my school are exactly like on tv when they were younger.


Have you any proof they are anorexic?

So no most kids did not grow up normal most of them are like kids on tv that they grew up with.


We grew up on pretty much the same thing, and most of us, it may come as a surprise, are not anorexic.

Corporate slobs have no excuse for telling kids its okay to not listen to parents, that to be beautiful you need to be anorexic. Also if corporate slobs tell kids to not listen to parents then how will parents be able to show kids the difference between TV and reality.


They don't tell kids not to listen to their parents- they just have a fucking product, and they market that fucking product. Jesus fucking Christ, it isn't hard to fucking understand. They aren't out to break families, they are out to make money, and children don't have money.

Don't blame them for shit parents, if the parents are fucking shit, then no amount of bitching to these honest men and women, doing their work, will change that.

Corporate slobs are not good people and are not earning a honest day's living.


They are doing their fucking job- it is an honest job, and if they are good at it, so be it. If you are a shit parent, take fucking responsibility.

Quit trying to defend greedy corrupt corporate slobs. Yes disney was good before but it has been getting worse for years now. Parents also do care for their kids health but when kids want to be like the princesses they won't listen to their parents.


They aren't evil, they are doing their job. They are creating a product that would sell. If your child can't distinguish between that and reality, then you are a shit parent who shouldn't be fucking having kids.

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Postby Stattr » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:49 pm

Oceasia wrote:It's worse for girls than it is for boys. In other words, yes.

How is it more worse for girls than boys?

Boys watch Disney s well and can be affected, especially of being forced to watch a princess movie or what not. Seeing all those skinny frail girls will basically tell them 'i should hang with them more.' and then it escalates into there teen and adult yrs, that judging. That stereotyping.
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Postby Matta » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:49 pm

Fine if you want to defend tv. But yes they do have a large affect on children. But if you want them for the crap they promote so be it.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:51 pm

Matta wrote:Fine if you want to defend tv. But yes they do have a large affect on children. But if you want them for the crap they promote so be it.


They are in a business. Don't blame your shitty parenting on the fact that they are good at their job.

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You need to cool down.
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Matta wrote:You need to cool down.


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Matta wrote:Again Its just not Disney its all entertainment companies. Also you seemed to ignore my post on them making Merida skinnier and have you seen the Disney princesses lately they are way to skinny and don't say they aren't skinny just because their dresses are poofed up.
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They made Snow White thinner than she is in the movie. Just in case you thought Disney sending horrible messages to children was a thing of the past.

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