Are Disney Movies Bad for Children?

[Individuality-ness]

Hey Arnold was the shit. Weird, but the shit.

"Move it football head!"
First Tsundere I've ever seen.

I felt bad for Helga. *nod*

[Giovenith]

In some ways arguably, but think the whole underweight thing is a little silly considering they're cartoon drawings, and are bound to have some radical differences from an actual body. This isn't to say it's not totally harmless (I'm sure there's at least someone crazy enough to try to turn themselves into a cartoon), but I think it's fair to point out that cartoons aren't exactly the finest place to be looking for messages on body shape.
While Disney still holds to some unfortunate stereotypes, I do think that at least in modern times, it has been getting better. You have to remember that different Disney movies were made in different times, when certain aspects and thoughts were acceptable and others weren't. A movie made in the 40's is not a movie made in the 90's. Times change, and the media changes with it. That's why in "Peter Pan" we have this awful little number, whereas later we get "Pocahontas," which although not exactly the most accurate film in the world, at least had the flip message of, "Hey, racism is kind of assholish." One new trend I've noticed in newer Disney movies (Brace, Tangled, Princess and the Frog) is that they seem to be adding more of a theme of the struggle for self-discovery being the primary driving point.

Of course, that's just movie wise. As for the awful sitcoms and pseudo-celebrities? Bleck, no, kill it with fire. They're all quite hypocritical. "Everybody should be who they naturally are! All of our given role models just so happen to naturally fit society's expectations." "You need to always follow your dreams! So long as that dream is becoming a famous singing idol." "I'm an ordinary girl, just like you! Ignore my clear comfortable, upper class, wish-fulfillment dotted luxuries such as fashionable clothes and exquisite housing." "Be nice to everyone, no matter what! Unless they have obscenities like acne, dandruff, have weird hobbies, a speech impediment, or god forbid, actually care about schoolwork! If you must hang out with them, make sure they're the butt monkey of your group and occasionally toss them a heart-felt 'nice moment' every few episodes before going right back to treating them like crap." "I'm not popular at school either, you know! Never mind how gorgeous or clearly rich I am, I'm sure all the picked on kids in your school are like that too."

[Genivaria]

Kim Possible was AWESOME.....who's Steven?

Kim Possible IS awesome. I love that show still, sometimes I look up old episodes on YouTube.
Even Stevens

OH! I remember that show, funny.
I can't help but remember an episode where the sister was like assistant manager somewhere.

[Tlik]

The characters aren't shown having sex though.

BUT THEIR SHORTS DON'T REACH DOWN TO THEIR KNEES

SEXUALISATION

It's no laughing matter. My children will watch those programmes with highly sexualised knees, and they will be affected. It might look all innocent now, but my kids will grow up with knee fetishes. Doesn't that thought sicken you? Big knees, small knees... knobbles! No, Disney is a menace that must be stopped now.

[Nailed to the Perch]

I seem to recall that she did a photoshoot a few years ago in which her bare back was visible, and people absolutely flipped their shit. I guess people are having trouble with the whole thing where Miley Cyrus isn't a child star any more.
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she was 16 when she did the nude photoshoot. so i think its ok folks flipped out

Well, except that it wasn't a "nude photoshoot." It was a "teenager wearing a halter top with a blanket over it" photoshoot. You can't see anything but her face, her shoulder, and part of her mid-to-upper back. The outrage over it as if she'd been abused by Annie Leibowitz was a bit much.

[Cetacea]

she was 16 when she did the nude photoshoot. so i think its ok folks flipped out

16? Nude photoshoot? Isn't that considered child pornography?

WTF people

It wasnt nude, she showed a bareback while otherwise covered by a sheet. Sexualised maybe but bleh

[Individuality-ness]

Kim Possible IS awesome. I love that show still, sometimes I look up old episodes on YouTube.
Even Stevens

OH! I remember that show, funny.
I can't help but remember an episode where the sister was like assistant manager somewhere.

I remember the movie for that series. I always seemed to like the sister.

[The Sector Union]

16? Nude photoshoot? Isn't that considered child pornography?

WTF people

It wasnt nude, she showed a bareback while otherwise covered by a sheet. Sexualised maybe but bleh

Should be a crime if it isn't.

[The Serbian Empire]

Hey Arnold was the shit. Weird, but the shit.

"Move it football head!"
First Tsundere I've ever seen.

Mine was not even Helga, but Megara in Hercules.

[Soviet Central]

Yes you do, but in the end it all comes down to simple logic- Dont like my product- dont use it! I see this critique as simply empty air...

No you don't. It's bothering you that people are criticising Disney. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here.

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Whats bothering me is that people talk about this irrelevant topic as if its something important. Whats bothering me even more is that you all have created illusion, that its somehow ok to bi.tch about it. Well guess what- its not. Just get over it AND yourselves and use products which you like instead of bi.tchin about the ones you dont. Or wait, even better advice- go do something what really IS important.

[Nailed to the Perch]

It wasnt nude, she showed a bareback while otherwise covered by a sheet. Sexualised maybe but bleh

Should be a crime if it isn't.

It's a crime for teenagers to show their shoulders?

Ooooooooooooooooookay then.

[Ifreann]

I seem to recall that she did a photoshoot a few years ago in which her bare back was visible, and people absolutely flipped their shit. I guess people are having trouble with the whole thing where Miley Cyrus isn't a child star any more.
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she was 16 when she did the nude photoshoot. so i think its ok folks flipped out

Bare back = nude? I think one of us is remembering this wrong.

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she was 16 when she did the nude photoshoot. so i think its ok folks flipped out

Well, except that it wasn't a "nude photoshoot." It was a "teenager wearing a halter top with a blanket over it" photoshoot. You can't see anything but her face, her shoulder, and part of her mid-to-upper back. The outrage over it as if she'd been abused by Annie Leibowitz was a bit much.

And now I'm thinking I'm not the one remembering it wrong.

[The Sector Union]

OH! I remember that show, funny.
I can't help but remember an episode where the sister was like assistant manager somewhere.

I remember the movie for that series. I always seemed to like the sister.

Who cares about Kim Possible. Fillmore! was the shit.

[TaQud]

Amanda Bynes and Miley Cyrus are two entirely different issues.

Bynes is likely having a breakdown of some sort. Bipolar seems to be a major possibility. God only knows where that will end up.

Miley Cyrus is hitting the clubs and doing drugs, but there's no indication that it's having a negative impact on her life or career, so I fail to see what the issue is. When she was with Disney, her job was to toe the company line and be a role model. She's not with Disney anymore. Her job is to put out music that she wants to put out.

Who the fuck is Amanda Bynes?

you don't wanna know.

[Kazarogkai]

Violence Honestly I dont have a problem with, I would be more than happy to watch some old war movies with my elementary school age kids(the goo ones mind you like "Lawrence of Arabia", "Lion of the desert", etc) many of them are very well crafted. Lawrence especially, it shows a conflicted man who on the inside is breaking down completely. But overly sexualization, showing of terrible role models(Barbey, Disney princesses), and such things that Disney does I refuse to let those influence my child. I want my child to look up to this not this

My daughters will be warriors not princesses.

[Nailed to the Perch]

No you don't. It's bothering you that people are criticising Disney. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here.

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Whats bothering me is that people talk about this irrelevant topic as if its something important. Whats bothering me even more is that you all have created illusion, that its somehow ok to bi.tch about it. Well guess what- its not. Just get over it AND yourselves and use products which you like instead of bi.tchin about the ones you dont. Or wait, even better advice- go do something what really IS important.

...like criticizing other people for criticizing something! That's SUPER important!

[Individuality-ness]

No you don't. It's bothering you that people are criticising Disney. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here.

Whats bothering me is that people talk about this irrelevant topic as if its something important. Whats bothering me even more is that you all have created illusion, that its somehow ok to bi.tch about it. Well guess what- its not. Just get over it AND yourselves and use products which you like instead of bi.tchin about the ones you dont. Or wait, even better advice- go do something what really IS important.

1. You can swear on this forum. There's no word filter. Example: fuck bitch whore slut ass shit.
2. Discussion IS doing something about it.

[Soviet Central]

No you don't. It's bothering you that people are criticising Disney. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here.

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Whats bothering me is that people talk about this irrelevant topic as if its something important. Whats bothering me even more is that you all have created illusion, that its somehow ok to bi.tch about it. Well guess what- its not. Just get over it AND yourselves and use products which you like instead of bi.tchin about the ones you dont. Or wait, even better advice- go do something what really IS important.

...like criticizing other people for criticizing something! That's SUPER important!

Well yeah. Im pointing out irrelevance of this topic and reaction of other people.

[The Serbian Empire]

Who the fuck is Amanda Bynes?

you don't wanna know.

Welcome to Block-blister!

[Individuality-ness]

...like criticizing other people for criticizing something! That's SUPER important!

Well yeah. Im pointing out irrelevance of this topic and reaction of other people.

You're a hypocrite.

[Cetacea]

Whats bothering me is that people talk about this irrelevant topic as if its something important. Whats bothering me even more is that you all have created illusion, that its somehow ok to bi.tch about it. Well guess what- its not. Just get over it AND yourselves and use products which you like instead of bi.tchin about the ones you dont. Or wait, even better advice- go do something what really IS important.

1. You can swear on this forum. There's no word filter. Example: fuck bitch whore slut ass shit.
2. Discussion IS doing something about it.

Perhaps Soviet Central should stick to discussing important things like Atlantis and the reality of Noahs Ark

[Individuality-ness]

1. You can swear on this forum. There's no word filter. Example: fuck bitch whore slut ass shit.
2. Discussion IS doing something about it.

Perhaps Soviet Central should stick to discussing important things like Atlantis and the reality of Noahs Ark

Strangely enough, I am also discussing the importance of Noah's Ark.

[Nailed to the Perch]

...like criticizing other people for criticizing something! That's SUPER important!

Well yeah. Im pointing out irrelevance of this topic and reaction of other people.

Except, amazingly, something not being relevant to you does not actually magically render it irrelevant to other people. You are perfectly allowed not to care about media criticism or Disney movies, but it looks very, very silly when you show up in a discussion solely to tell people, repeatedly, just how much you don't care about that discussion.

[Ifreann]

No you don't. It's bothering you that people are criticising Disney. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here.

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Whats bothering me is that people talk about this irrelevant topic as if its something important.

We're just talking about it on the internet, we're not storming the seat of government or Disney headquarters.

Whats bothering me even more is that you all have created illusion, that its somehow ok to bi.tch about it. Well guess what- its not.

See? It does bother you.

And for the record, it is totally okay for us to bitch about Disney movies. DWI.

Just get over it AND yourselves and use products which you like instead of bi.tchin about the ones you dont. Or wait, even better advice- go do something what really IS important.

Is what you're doing important? Bitching at us?

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Should be a crime if it isn't.

It's a crime for teenagers to show their shoulders?

Ooooooooooooooooookay then.

Yes, and only teenagers. In fact, only famous teenage girls, and only during photo shoots. Everyone else is fine.

[Charellia]

You forgot how Belle had stockholm syndrome and how the beast was monstrously abusive.

Never thought about it like that. I still think that its okay though because in the end the beast learned how to behave properly and really the most enduring message of a movie comes at the end.