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Which European league was the strongest this past season?

Germany
4
11%
Italy
1
3%
Spain
18
49%
England
5
14%
France
0
No votes
Andorra (well done, FC Santa Coloma)
9
24%
Other
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 37

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Postby Serrland » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:35 pm

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I believe it's a shrimp...


It is a shrimp - there's a reason why Morecambe are called the Shrimpers.


Gotcha! The more you know, etc, etc. Shrimp, not prawn. I'll have to remember that.

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Postby Osarius » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:20 pm

Serrland wrote:They're the ones with the prawn on their crest? Top notch crest it is.

There's a man united joke here somewhere.........
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:03 pm

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Postby DesAnges » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:05 pm

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Fuck you, Kezman.

Isn't this the guy who blew his nose out with coke? Fuck him and his.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:59 am

DesAnges wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:http://www.insideworldsoccer.com/2013/08/mateja-kezman-calls-homosexuality-disease.html

Fuck you, Kezman.

Isn't this the guy who blew his nose out with coke? Fuck him and his.


Indeed it was. Fucker needs to be slapped in the goolies...
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Postby Kemalist » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:01 am

So excited about the drawings. I want Lyon.

EDIT: Arsenal, gosh...
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:37 am

Kemalist wrote:So excited about the drawings. I want Lyon.

EDIT: Arsenal, gosh...


Could be interesting...not really sure how to call that game. Still its a great draw for you I reckon...
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Postby Daedric Stellar Empire » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:27 am

Arsenal - Fenerbace .... wenger no gambles and sign someone
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Postby Saugeais » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:46 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -fans.html

Didn't know English football was taking after American football in their naming conventions now. What purpose does this serve, really, changing "Hull City" to "Hull Tigers"?
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Postby DesAnges » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:47 am

Saugeais wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hull-city/10233485/Disgusting-decision-by-owner-Assem-Allam-to-change-Hull-Citys-name-to-Hull-Tigers-infuriates-fans.html

Didn't know English football was taking after American football in their naming conventions now. What purpose does this serve, really, changing "Hull City" to "Hull Tigers"?

Technically it's Hull City FC to Hull City Tigers. Which is a little bit better, I guess.
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Postby I V Stalin » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:28 am

Kemalist wrote:So excited about the drawings. I want Lyon.

EDIT: Arsenal, gosh...

*fond memories of Abou Diaby slaughtering Fenerbahce a few years back*

He'll be like a new signing when fit...
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Postby DesAnges » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:30 am

I V Stalin wrote:
Kemalist wrote:So excited about the drawings. I want Lyon.

EDIT: Arsenal, gosh...

*fond memories of Abou Diaby slaughtering Fenerbahce a few years back*

He'll be like a new signing when fit...

As he re-signs for the 183rd time.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:02 am

Saugeais wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hull-city/10233485/Disgusting-decision-by-owner-Assem-Allam-to-change-Hull-Citys-name-to-Hull-Tigers-infuriates-fans.html

Didn't know English football was taking after American football in their naming conventions now. What purpose does this serve, really, changing "Hull City" to "Hull Tigers"?

If you don't have any championships, putting 'tiger' in your name is the next best way to make your fanbase feel like its penises are a centimetre longer than they are.

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Postby Serrland » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:11 am

Saugeais wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hull-city/10233485/Disgusting-decision-by-owner-Assem-Allam-to-change-Hull-Citys-name-to-Hull-Tigers-infuriates-fans.html

Didn't know English football was taking after American football in their naming conventions now. What purpose does this serve, really, changing "Hull City" to "Hull Tigers"?


That sort of naming is pretty common in the Super League, isn't it? I had thought Hull was a big rugby town, so maybe that will make the change easier to stomach?

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Postby Liventia » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:30 am

Serrland wrote:
Saugeais wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hull-city/10233485/Disgusting-decision-by-owner-Assem-Allam-to-change-Hull-Citys-name-to-Hull-Tigers-infuriates-fans.html

Didn't know English football was taking after American football in their naming conventions now. What purpose does this serve, really, changing "Hull City" to "Hull Tigers"?


That sort of naming is pretty common in the Super League, isn't it? I had thought Hull was a big rugby town, so maybe that will make the change easier to stomach?

Well, Hull's two Super League teams are Hull FC and Hull KR. Not exactly nickname-using teams.
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Postby Serrland » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:42 am

Liventia wrote:
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That sort of naming is pretty common in the Super League, isn't it? I had thought Hull was a big rugby town, so maybe that will make the change easier to stomach?

Well, Hull's two Super League teams are Hull FC and Hull KR. Not exactly nickname-using teams.


Ah. Teaches me for bringing up Super League when I know next to nothing. I know there is a Tigers in it, figured that was Hull :(

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:54 am

Serrland wrote:
Liventia wrote:Well, Hull's two Super League teams are Hull FC and Hull KR. Not exactly nickname-using teams.


Ah. Teaches me for bringing up Super League when I know next to nothing. I know there is a Tigers in it, figured that was Hull :(


Hull City call themselves tigers coz their strip...
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Postby Osarius » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:28 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Saugeais wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hull-city/10233485/Disgusting-decision-by-owner-Assem-Allam-to-change-Hull-Citys-name-to-Hull-Tigers-infuriates-fans.html

Didn't know English football was taking after American football in their naming conventions now. What purpose does this serve, really, changing "Hull City" to "Hull Tigers"?

Technically it's Hull City FC to Hull City Tigers. Which is a little bit better, I guess.

Hull Tigers is the international brand.

Anyway, it's not like this is a big deal. They're just trying to build a brand for the club. And they're using "Tigers", which is the club nickname. I'd understand the outrage if they turned around and changed the club colours, or wanted to call them Hull City Eagles... but they're not doing anything like that. They're not pulling a Cardiff, ffs.

Alternate names aren't a new thing either. English clubs are often referred to by their nicknames (or partial forms) in the press both domestically and overseas. Notable examples are Man Utd being referred to as the Red Devils (mostly overseas though), Aston Villa are just "Villa" (no matter where you go, it seems), Tottenham are "Spurs". These brands are different. They stand out. How many other "Villas" are there? How many other clubs are known as "Spurs" ..? The Red Devil brand is linked directly to Man Utd. Hull are the first to really push this Tiger thing, it seems... maybe they're hoping it will have a similar effect. Hull Tigers would be more appealing to me as a randomer than Hull City AFC.

Seems like the complaints are mainly because it's different (seemingly most commonly defined as "American" or "Amateur", draw your own conclusions).
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:59 pm

Osarius wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Technically it's Hull City FC to Hull City Tigers. Which is a little bit better, I guess.

Hull Tigers is the international brand.

Anyway, it's not like this is a big deal. They're just trying to build a brand for the club. And they're using "Tigers", which is the club nickname. I'd understand the outrage if they turned around and changed the club colours, or wanted to call them Hull City Eagles... but they're not doing anything like that. They're not pulling a Cardiff, ffs.

Alternate names aren't a new thing either. English clubs are often referred to by their nicknames (or partial forms) in the press both domestically and overseas. Notable examples are Man Utd being referred to as the Red Devils (mostly overseas though), Aston Villa are just "Villa" (no matter where you go, it seems), Tottenham are "Spurs". These brands are different. They stand out. How many other "Villas" are there? How many other clubs are known as "Spurs" ..? The Red Devil brand is linked directly to Man Utd. Hull are the first to really push this Tiger thing, it seems... maybe they're hoping it will have a similar effect. Hull Tigers would be more appealing to me as a randomer than Hull City AFC.

Seems like the complaints are mainly because it's different (seemingly most commonly defined as "American" or "Amateur", draw your own conclusions).


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Postby Liventia » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:03 pm

Osarius wrote:Hull Tigers is the international brand.

And the UK name is to be "Hull City Tigers". I think it is a big deal — for their fans anyway — because they're dropping "AFC", which has been with the club since it was founded.
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Postby I V Stalin » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:26 am

Osarius wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Technically it's Hull City FC to Hull City Tigers. Which is a little bit better, I guess.

Hull Tigers is the international brand.

Anyway, it's not like this is a big deal. They're just trying to build a brand for the club. And they're using "Tigers", which is the club nickname. I'd understand the outrage if they turned around and changed the club colours, or wanted to call them Hull City Eagles... but they're not doing anything like that. They're not pulling a Cardiff, ffs.

Alternate names aren't a new thing either. English clubs are often referred to by their nicknames (or partial forms) in the press both domestically and overseas. Notable examples are Man Utd being referred to as the Red Devils (mostly overseas though), Aston Villa are just "Villa" (no matter where you go, it seems), Tottenham are "Spurs". These brands are different. They stand out. How many other "Villas" are there? How many other clubs are known as "Spurs" ..? The Red Devil brand is linked directly to Man Utd. Hull are the first to really push this Tiger thing, it seems... maybe they're hoping it will have a similar effect. Hull Tigers would be more appealing to me as a randomer than Hull City AFC.

Seems like the complaints are mainly because it's different (seemingly most commonly defined as "American" or "Amateur", draw your own conclusions).

People don't like change. Give it a year or so and no one will give a shit. Give it twenty years and people will resist changing it back to Hull City AFC.
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Postby Kemalist » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:48 am

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Fuck you, Kezman.


I'm ashamed of him playing for our team in the past. Looks like he deserved what he heard from our fans a couple of years ago... But good to know that a legend like Van Hooijdonk is in the right side.
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Postby Osarius » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:15 am

Liventia wrote:
Osarius wrote:Hull Tigers is the international brand.

And the UK name is to be "Hull City Tigers".

Actually that's the local brand. National and international branding is the same: Hull Tigers.
Allam wants to market the club as Hull City Tigers locally and Hull Tigers to national and international audiences.


Liventia wrote:I think it is a big deal — for their fans anyway — because they're dropping "AFC", which has been with the club since it was founded.

It's also irrelevant. And no doubt the fans will continue to call the club whatever they like.
“We have dropped the AFC as it is something which has become redundant,” he said. “It is not used by the club, the fans never mention AFC, nor do the media. The identity of the club is the Tigers, the stripes, and the colour scheme of amber and black, which remains."

So why exactly is it such a big deal?

This whole episode comes across as English people getting mad about "out-of-touch" foreigners changing stuff, to me. Yeah, let's completely ignore the obvious commercial advantages of changing the club's branding, that this foreign businessman who saved our club from financial crisis has identified, because we think it sounds silly and we prefer our old-fashioned, traditional name that no-one really uses anyway.

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Postby DesAnges » Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:54 am

Michael Owen's commentary has to have been devised as the torture for when Satan decides to add an 8th ring.
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Postby I V Stalin » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:43 am

DesAnges wrote:Michael Owen's commentary has to have been devised as the torture for when Satan decides to add an 8th ring.

Erm...tenth, surely? Fitting, I suppose.
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