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Do you support gay rights?

Poll ended at Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:55 pm

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 343

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Meryuma
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Postby Meryuma » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:22 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
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I just think it's disgusting and immoral. Yeah yeah, I know disgusting isn't a valid argument, but I still think they should be granted Human rights anyway.


Why is it immoral? Things aren't just arbitrarily moral or immoral.
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Postby Ninelevon » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:22 am

Simply put if more people had common sense there'd be no need to discuss if there should be equal rights for homosexuals, as they'd already have them in the first place.
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Daemonicai
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Postby Daemonicai » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:22 am

Would it be considered tactless to post the TG conversation I'm having with Need a name? I've made some arguments in it that I haven't made in here, but I don't want his privacy to be besmirched.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:23 am

Daemonicai wrote:Would it be considered tactless to post the TG conversation I'm having with Need a name? I've made some arguments in it that I haven't made in here, but I don't want his privacy to be besmirched.

You can't post anything on behalf of a banned poster if that's what you're asking.
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FC Zenit
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Postby FC Zenit » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:23 am

Doesn't matter who's right or wrong, nothing will get accomplished as long the politicians have any say in marriage. "Oh, Labour Party does this, oh no National Party refutes that." I mean seriously, nobody wins as long as we leave it up to politicians to squabble over.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:23 am

Reploid Productions wrote:Now, can I assume everyone else will behave, or will we need to do the moderation lock-n-trawl song and dance that almost always ends in heaps of redtext?

I can promise all my bitchslaps will be directed at posters' arguments (with thorough explanations for the reasons behind the bitchslaps), and not the posters themselves.
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Wisconsin9
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:24 am

Daemonicai wrote:Would it be considered tactless to post the TG conversation I'm having with Need a name? I've made some arguments in it that I haven't made in here, but I don't want his privacy to be besmirched.

You can post your arguments, just not stuff he said.
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Caecuser
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Postby Caecuser » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:24 am

Red Croatia wrote:Yes,I support them as long as they stop charging trough the streets waving rainbow-colored flags.

You're gay.we get it.Nobody cares.


Obviously some people do.

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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:24 am

Meryuma wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I just think it's disgusting and immoral. Yeah yeah, I know disgusting isn't a valid argument, but I still think they should be granted Human rights anyway.


Why is it immoral? Things aren't just arbitrarily moral or immoral.

Things can be immoral to one, and not the other. I am sure it find it distasteful, if not immoral to steal, correct?

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Red Croatia
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Postby Red Croatia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:24 am

Daemonicai wrote:Would it be considered tactless to post the TG conversation I'm having with Need a name? I've made some arguments in it that I haven't made in here, but I don't want his privacy to be besmirched.

I read his posts.

Those things should not count as "arguments" dear.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:24 am

Meryuma wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I just think it's disgusting and immoral. Yeah yeah, I know disgusting isn't a valid argument, but I still think they should be granted Human rights anyway.


Why is it immoral? Things aren't just arbitrarily moral or immoral.

My religion. And I am just going to leave it at that. I don't want to argue about whether God is real or not right now.

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Daemonicai
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Postby Daemonicai » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:25 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Daemonicai wrote:Would it be considered tactless to post the TG conversation I'm having with Need a name? I've made some arguments in it that I haven't made in here, but I don't want his privacy to be besmirched.

You can't post anything on behalf of a banned poster if that's what you're asking.


Not on behalf, but his arguments are needed to make sense of my replies.
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Red Croatia
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Postby Red Croatia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:25 am

Caecuser wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:Yes,I support them as long as they stop charging trough the streets waving rainbow-colored flags.

You're gay.we get it.Nobody cares.


Obviously some people do.

The sad truth stands above.
"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

I'm the kind of person that you don't want to get mad.

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Individuality-ness
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:25 am

Red Croatia wrote:
Daemonicai wrote:Would it be considered tactless to post the TG conversation I'm having with Need a name? I've made some arguments in it that I haven't made in here, but I don't want his privacy to be besmirched.

I read his posts.

Those things should not count as "arguments" dear.

You actually went through and read his posts willingly? Like, outside this thread? For funsies?

I am so sorry.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:26 am

Red Croatia wrote:Yes,I support them as long as they stop charging trough the streets waving rainbow-colored flags.
You're gay.we get it.Nobody cares.


I'm afraid that, while it's true that in an ideal world nobody should care about what other people do in their privacy with their adult, consenting partner(s) of choice, a lot of people CARE about other people's sexuality. Generally, it's the people who think they have a special privilege to enforce their sexual preferences and standards on other people... that is, mostly, the gay-hating crowd.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:26 am

Daemonicai wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:You can't post anything on behalf of a banned poster if that's what you're asking.


Not on behalf, but his arguments are needed to make sense of my replies.

I wouldn't risk it.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:26 am

FC Zenit wrote:Doesn't matter who's right or wrong, nothing will get accomplished as long the politicians have any say in marriage. "Oh, Labour Party does this, oh no National Party refutes that." I mean seriously, nobody wins as long as we leave it up to politicians to squabble over.


That sounds cute and all...but it blatantly disregards reality in the name of pessimistic cynicism.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Red Croatia
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Postby Red Croatia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:26 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:I read his posts.

Those things should not count as "arguments" dear.

You actually went through and read his posts willingly? Like, outside this thread? For funsies?

I am so sorry.

I read several pages back before joining the argument.
"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

I'm the kind of person that you don't want to get mad.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:26 am

Daemonicai wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:You can't post anything on behalf of a banned poster if that's what you're asking.

Not on behalf, but his arguments are needed to make sense of my replies.

Probably don't do it to be safe. You don't want to get banned too.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:27 am

Red Croatia wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:You actually went through and read his posts willingly? Like, outside this thread? For funsies?

I am so sorry.

I read several pages back before joining the argument.

I am so sorry that everyone had to go through that.
"I should have listened to her, so hard to keep control. We kept on eating but our bloated bellies still not full."
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Risottia
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:28 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
Why is it immoral? Things aren't just arbitrarily moral or immoral.

My religion. And I am just going to leave it at that. I don't want to argue about whether God is real or not right now.

Well, your choice; but it's not like enforcing your religious standards on other people is going to help your cause for sanctity a lot.
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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:28 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:I read several pages back before joining the argument.

I am so sorry that everyone had to go through that.

It's not your fault.

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Red Croatia
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Postby Red Croatia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:28 am

Risottia wrote:
Red Croatia wrote:Yes,I support them as long as they stop charging trough the streets waving rainbow-colored flags.
You're gay.we get it.Nobody cares.


I'm afraid that, while it's true that in an ideal world nobody should care about what other people do in their privacy with their adult, consenting partner(s) of choice, a lot of people CARE about other people's sexuality. Generally, it's the people who think they have a special privilege to enforce their sexual preferences and standards on other people... that is, mostly, the gay-hating crowd.

While you are at it-Why would people dislike gay people?
Because according to their opinion It is not right? Those people absolutely have zero tolerance
"..My Innocence is wearing thin, but my heart is growing strong.. So call me, call me.. Miss.. Movin' On.."
"..You don't have to be afraid to put your dreams in action..
You're never gonna fade you'll be the main attraction.."

I'm the kind of person that you don't want to get mad.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:28 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I am so sorry that everyone had to go through that.

It's not your fault.

I know, but man, that sucks.
"I should have listened to her, so hard to keep control. We kept on eating but our bloated bellies still not full."
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Risottia
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:29 am

Red Croatia wrote:While you are at it-Why would people dislike gay people?

Beats me. Maybe they're afraid of their own latent homosexuality.

Because according to their opinion It is not right? Those people absolutely have zero tolerance

Eh.
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