Democracy is Slavery

by **Albul** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:02 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Albul wrote:Capitalism is Slavery

No it's not.

Capitalism is capitalism.

Slavery is slavery.

Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?

Thread hijacks are slavery.

Labels are slavery.

by **Genivaria** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:03 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Your slavery.

My slavery?

No his slavery.

by **Albul** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:03 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Utceforp wrote:My slavery?

No his slavery.

I thought is was our slavery...

by **Utceforp** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:03 pm

Andryan wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Sure it is. In modern liberal democracies, everyone's opinion is taken into account - it's called voting. Everyone has political representation through that vote.

Every gets the chance to get representation, but that's not the same as being represented. If no one you vote is elected, who represents you?

Again, refer to the "Alice, Bob and Charlie paint their car" example. Not everyone in a country gets to be represented, because if every single person is represented then the population of the country has to be twice as large as itself.

by **Sondstead** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:04 pm

United Dependencies wrote:It's nothing like that.

This tobacco field won't pick itself.

I liked my idea better, but then again, ideas are slavery.

by **Benuty** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Albul wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:No it's not.

Capitalism is capitalism.

Slavery is slavery.

Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?

Thread hijacks are slavery.

Labels are slavery.

Genocide is slavery.

by **Immoren** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:04 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Andryan wrote:
Rule of the people isn't nonsense, it's democracy. If all people aren't represented, then it's not democracy.

I don't say that true democracy is possible. I say that what we have can't be called democracy.

I reiterate: America has NEVER BEEN A FUCKING DEMOCRACY.

America is a fucking CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

Those are not mutually exclusive.

by **The Rich Port** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Andryan wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Sure it is. In modern liberal democracies, everyone's opinion is taken into account - it's called voting. Everyone has political representation through that vote.

Everyone gets the chance to get representation, but that's not the same as being represented. If no one you vote is elected, who represents you?

Oh, boo-frickety-hoo.

That ONE guy didn't get who he voted for.

Let's all bust out the violins and serenade him.

by **Xsyne** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Andryan wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Sure it is. In modern liberal democracies, everyone's opinion is taken into account - it's called voting. Everyone has political representation through that vote.

Everyone gets the chance to get representation, but that's not the same as being represented. If no one you vote is elected, who represents you?

You do.

by **Utceforp** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Albul wrote:
Genivaria wrote:No his slavery.

I thought is was our slavery...

Hand over the slavery and nobody gets hurt!

by **Avenio** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:05 pm

Andryan wrote:Every gets the chance to get representation, but that's not the same as being represented. If no one you vote is elected, who represents you?

Your vote is representation. Representation is simply defined as the ability to influence political processes, and everyone in a given Western liberal democracy has that same right - no more, no less.

by **Benuty** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:05 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Andryan wrote:
Everyone gets the chance to get representation, but that's not the same as being represented. If no one you vote is elected, who represents you?

Oh, boo-frickety-hoo.

That ONE guy didn't get who he voted for.

Let's all bust out the violins and serenade him.

Meanwhile at the Hall of Skepticism.

by **Surfistan** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:05 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Surfistan wrote:I'm really starting to dislike that Nozick guy.

Is that because he published a paper claiming that he was slavery?

We're slaves to no other than ourselves.

by **Sondstead** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:05 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Let's all bust out the violins and serenade him.

Soft music is slavery.

by **Heltonia** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:05 pm

a man chooses, a slave also chooses?

by **Sondstead** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:05 pm

Heltonia wrote:a man chooses, a slave also chooses?

Man is slavery.

by **Utceforp** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:06 pm

Heltonia wrote:a man chooses, a slave also chooses?

Being human is slavery!

by **Surfistan** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:06 pm

Sondstead wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Let's all bust out the violins and serenade him.

Soft music is slavery.

Criticism is slavery.

Hey, it does work with everything!

by **The Rich Port** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:06 pm

Immoren wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I reiterate: America has NEVER BEEN A FUCKING DEMOCRACY.

America is a fucking CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

Those are not mutually exclusive.

Granted, but there is a huge difference between a direct democracy and a constitutional republic.

Republics have democracy as a foundational process, but they're not really actual democracies in the strictest sense of the word.

by **The Greater Ohio Valley** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:06 pm

Oxygen is slavery.

by **Ifreann** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Indeed. A man chooses. A slave obeys. *golf club*

What if he chooses to obey?

Slaveman, Earth's greatest hero!

by **Sondstead** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Surfistan wrote:Criticism is slavery.

Hey, it does work with everything!

Praise is reverse emotional vampirism.

by **Andryan** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Andryan wrote:
Every gets the chance to get representation, but that's not the same as being represented. If no one you vote is elected, who represents you?

Again, refer to the "Alice, Bob and Charlie paint their car" example. Not everyone in a country gets to be represented, because if every single person is represented then the population of the country has to be twice as large as itself.

Yes, I know. That's why I said that a true democracy is an unachievable ideal. The nearest we could ever get would be direct representation, but it would be impractical.

by **Albul** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Albul wrote:I thought is was our slavery...

Hand over the slavery and nobody gets hurt!

But sir, we have nothing.

Unfortunately, we are slavery. So is nothing.

Moral of the story: We are Slavery. Nothing is Slavery. Slavery is Slavery.

by **Matta** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Impeach Africa, Legalize the Sun, White Morgan Freeman 2016

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