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Postby Avenio » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:58 pm

Andryan wrote:Rule of the people isn't nonsense, it's democracy. If all people aren't represented, then it's not democracy.


Sure it is. In modern liberal democracies, everyone's opinion is taken into account - it's called voting. Everyone has political representation through that vote.

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Postby Sondstead » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:58 pm

Ifreann wrote:Indeed. A man chooses. A slave obeys. *golf club*


Didn't OP establish that choice is slavery? Therefore slavery is freedom.

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Kinky. :p
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Postby Albul » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:58 pm

Capitalism is Slavery
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:59 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Indeed. A man chooses. A slave obeys. *golf club*

Would you kindly be my slave?


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Postby Sondstead » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:59 pm

Lesssnt wrote:No one is a slave other than by choice.


No one makes a choice other than by slavery.
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Fartsniffage wrote:Poor analogy. A better one would be a high school american football team approaching a couple of kids quietly reading/writing during lunch hour, telling them to play with them and then stamping on their books/notepads if they refuse.

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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:59 pm

Sondstead wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Would you kindly be my slave?


Kinky. :p

It's nothing like that.

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Postby Surfistan » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:59 pm

I'm really starting to dislike that Nozick guy.

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Postby Andryan » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:59 pm

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Bombadil wrote:Imagine there was a mountain, but it was flattened and placed by the sea and became all sandy and some 'mountain' bars were there.. is a mountain any different from a beach?

:clap:


Very good analogy, isn't it? I wish I was able to make such good analogies.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Indeed. A man chooses. A slave obeys. *golf club*

What if he chooses to obey?

I would choose to obey a big sexy man. ;)
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Postby Utceforp » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Indeed. A man chooses. A slave obeys. *golf club*

What if he chooses to obey?

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

This thread is definitely slavery.
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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

Neo Art wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Would you kindly be my slave?


I love you so fucking much right now.

I love that this thread was just run off the rails rather than indulging the idiotic content within the op.
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Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Albul » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

Nothing is Slavery

I used your label to nullify everything you've all said!

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

The OP is completely ignorant of how politics work and is only pretending to know anything about the topic.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

Albul wrote:Capitalism is Slavery

No it's not.

Capitalism is capitalism.

Slavery is slavery.

Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:01 pm

Surfistan wrote:I'm really starting to dislike that Nozick guy.

Is that because he published a paper claiming that he was slavery?
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:01 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:This thread is definitely slavery.

Your slavery. :p
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Postby Xsyne » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:01 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Albul wrote:Capitalism is Slavery

No it's not.

Capitalism is capitalism.

Slavery is slavery.

Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?

Seriously?
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Postby Sondstead » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:01 pm

United Dependencies wrote:I love that this thread was just run off the rails rather than indulging the idiotic content within the op.


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Fartsniffage wrote:Poor analogy. A better one would be a high school american football team approaching a couple of kids quietly reading/writing during lunch hour, telling them to play with them and then stamping on their books/notepads if they refuse.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:01 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Albul wrote:Capitalism is Slavery

No it's not.

Capitalism is capitalism.

Slavery is slavery.

Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?

I guess you're misinformed on what's been happening this whole time? ;)
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:This thread is definitely slavery.

Your slavery. :p

Obey your master. 8)
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Postby Utceforp » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:This thread is definitely slavery.

Your slavery. :p

My slavery?
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Postby Andryan » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:02 pm

Avenio wrote:
Andryan wrote:Rule of the people isn't nonsense, it's democracy. If all people aren't represented, then it's not democracy.


Sure it is. In modern liberal democracies, everyone's opinion is taken into account - it's called voting. Everyone has political representation through that vote.


Everyone gets the chance to get representation, but that's not the same as being represented. If no one you vote is elected, who represents you?
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Postby Lesssnt » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:02 pm

Sondstead wrote:
Lesssnt wrote:No one is a slave other than by choice.


No one makes a choice other than by slavery.

So freedom is made by not having choice.

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