Democracy is Slavery

[Immoren]

Entropy is slavery.

This is getting silly.

[Grand Britannia]

Earth is slavery.

Eject all people into space and embrace true freedom.

Space is slavery.

[Czechanada]

Gravity is slavery.

I don't think you understand the slavery of the situation.

Impeach the Earth's core.

[Sondstead]

Entropy is slavery.

This is getting silly.

This thread is Slavery-Entropy.

[Albul]

I'm Spartacus!

But no, seriously, I think someone pretty much answered the question. It stopped being slavery the minute the relationship between "master" and "slave" in no way resembled slavery.

I mean, I know it's a tautology and "it's not slavery because it doesn't actually resemble slavery in any sense" is somewhat an unsatisfying intellectual answer, but sometimes it works. If I hold up an apple and ask "why isn't this a pear?" then "because it's a fucking apple", while not having a certain joie de vivre of intellectually stimulating discourse, is about as good a response as one could reasonably offer.

I would completely understand the arguement that, while it is technically slavery, you don't care because it isn't "bad slavery." You might even believe that democracy is the best posited form of governance, but that doesn't make it not slavery, that just makes you a slaver apologist.

I hope this guy is kidding.

I shall humor you, then. If democracy is just the slavery of one man to many people, and autocracy is the slavery of many people to one man, then isn't all government essentially slavery? Therefore, the only way to free ourselves from slavery would be anarchy.

[United Dependencies]

Gravity is slavery.

I don't think you understand the slavery of the situation.

I don't think you slavery the slavery of the slavery-ation.

[Jolthig]

... what the?

[Napkiraly]

Even in the wild west people still had to work together in a lot of cases and in a post apocalyptic world, in order to start restoring society well...you guess it, back to cooperation and some form of governance.

But that's slavery. Government is bad, this I know, because Ayn Rand told me so.

Ayn Rand is slavery. *nod*

[Frisivisia]

I don't think you understand the slavery of the situation.

Impeach the Earth's core.

The Earth's Core is Obama Ron Paul is taxation Slavery is Gravity 2017 INFOWARS DOT COM

[New Chalcedon]

Alright guys, new challenge: name everything that is the same as slavery.

I'll start: my love for ice-cream is slavery.

fundamental particles are slavery.

CHECK MATE LIBERALS

....get your perjoratives right.

"Socialists", not "liberals". We don't want some bright young spark looking at the word "liberal" and realising that it derives from the root-word "liberty", do we? That might create the accurate wrong impression that liberalism is about anything other than the enslavement of the makers to the takers under the auspices of a power-mad, Orwellian gubbermint!

[Diopolis]

You know what the two top topics I found on NSG were when I took a quick squiz at it?

"Taxation is slavery"; and
"Democracy is slavery", both based on that utter lightweight Nozick's "work" (if I may abuse the term by applying it to Nozick's drivel).

Well, it's a wonderful thing that we have such astute, wise and insightful philosophers as Robert Nozick - the man who hated government but took government funding to both undertake his studies and to further his academic career - to tell us how to look out for our liberties, else we would inevitably be snatched by the government chain-gangs waiting behind every wall and tree, every door and window, for our unsuspecting selves to wander past innocently. Surely, all of humanity would be groaning in chains, held down and forced to labour for the benefits of the battening masses of leeches, were it not for the wisdom of this latter-day Aristotle!

Really, I just wish that libertarianism's adherents would grow up and realise that the Utopia of the rugged, individualistic explorer/settler who can do as (s)he pleases ad bear the consequences themselves (aka the Wild West) (a) is long-gone, and (b) wasn't exactly what any sane person would call "Utopia" in the first place.

Would libertarianism work for a frontier society, or a post-apocalyptic nation struggling for survival? Perhaps (although I doubt it) - but it doesn't work for 21st-century economies, which are based on the extraction, transportation, transformation, re-transportation and consumption of resources.

I just love the fact that he advocated for legalizing slavery between calling anything and everything slavery.

[Cumulis]

001010100101001010101 is slavery too?

Dangit.

[Frisivisia]

I don't think you understand the slavery of the situation.

I don't think you slavery the slavery of the slavery-ation.

I Slavery Slavery you Slavery Slavery Slavery of the Slavery.

[Sondstead]

I shall humor you, then. If democracy is just the slavery of one man to many people, and autocracy is the slavery of many people to one man, then isn't all government essentially slavery? Therefore, the only way to free ourselves from slavery would be anarchy.

Wait, you thought internet libertarians didn't believe government is slavery?

[Phocidaea]

I've heard just about every government institution ever called "slavery".

The Canadian Minister of State for Western Economic Diversification (you know who you are, Lynne Yelich, Member of Parliament for the Riding of Blackstrap in south central Saskatchewan, between the towns of Saskatoon, Bladworth, Jansen, and Elbow) is slavery.

Wouldn't be surprised if at least one nutter claimed that.

[Utceforp]

Intellectual masturbation. Worse, intellectual hipsterist masturbation. You're simultaneously ragging on a system for taking into account the will of 'the people', but at the same time criticizing it for not taking into account the will of 'the people'.

Is there any need to be rude? The will of the majority is not equal to the will of the people because those who aren't in the majority are also the people. The system as it is doesn't and can't take them into account. True democracy is the rule of the people, not the rule of some people.

The "will of the people", as you describe it, is impossible to achieve. Let's use an example, shall we? Alice, Bob and Charlie want to paint their car. The car can only be painted one colour. Alice and Bob want to paint it blue, while Charlie wants to paint it red. Alice and Bob, being the "majority", get to paint the car blue. Charlie is upset, but Alice and Bob are happy. Tell me a way in which Alice, Bob and Charlie can be happy about the colour of the car, and I will admit that your system works.

[The USOT]

Hey guys. Remember when slaves could leave a country, move home, buy their own property, become billionairs, become world leaders, run the world?

If thats slavery, it doesnt sound too bad...

[Frisivisia]

fundamental particles are slavery.

CHECK MATE LIBERALS

....get your perjoratives right.

"Socialists", not "liberals". We don't want some bright young spark looking at the word "liberal" and realising that it derives from the root-word "liberty", do we? That might create the accurate wrong impression that liberalism is about anything other than the enslavement of the makers to the takers under the auspices of a power-mad, Orwellian gubbermint!

LIBERTY IS SLAVERY

EBONY IS IVORY

[Napkiraly]

I'm Spartacus!

But no, seriously, I think someone pretty much answered the question. It stopped being slavery the minute the relationship between "master" and "slave" in no way resembled slavery.

I mean, I know it's a tautology and "it's not slavery because it doesn't actually resemble slavery in any sense" is somewhat an unsatisfying intellectual answer, but sometimes it works. If I hold up an apple and ask "why isn't this a pear?" then "because it's a fucking apple", while not having a certain joie de vivre of intellectually stimulating discourse, is about as good a response as one could reasonably offer.

I would completely understand the arguement that, while it is technically slavery, you don't care because it isn't "bad slavery." You might even believe that democracy is the best posited form of governance, but that doesn't make it not slavery, that just makes you a slaver apologist.

Slavery is when people are considered property. When they are bought and sold and treated like a commodity then forced to work. That. Is. Actual. Bloody. Slavery.

[Czechanada]

Anyways, democracy implies consent, so democracy would be serfdom at best.

[Kromar]

You know what the two top topics I found on NSG were when I took a quick squiz at it?

"Taxation is slavery"; and
"Democracy is slavery", both based on that utter lightweight Nozick's "work" (if I may abuse the term by applying it to Nozick's drivel).

Well, it's a wonderful thing that we have such astute, wise and insightful philosophers as Robert Nozick - the man who hated government but took government funding to both undertake his studies and to further his academic career - to tell us how to look out for our liberties, else we would inevitably be snatched by the government chain-gangs waiting behind every wall and tree, every door and window, for our unsuspecting selves to wander past innocently. Surely, all of humanity would be groaning in chains, held down and forced to labour for the benefits of the battening masses of leeches, were it not for the wisdom of this latter-day Aristotle!

Really, I just wish that libertarianism's adherents would grow up and realise that the Utopia of the rugged, individualistic explorer/settler who can do as (s)he pleases ad bear the consequences themselves (aka the Wild West) (a) is long-gone, and (b) wasn't exactly what any sane person would call "Utopia" in the first place.

Would libertarianism work for a frontier society, or a post-apocalyptic nation struggling for survival? Perhaps (although I doubt it) - but it doesn't work for 21st-century economies, which are based on the extraction, transportation, transformation, re-transportation and consumption of resources.

Satirizing a position that no one has taken doesn't accomplish much.

Also, I'm not even a libertarian, or an-cap. I soley wish to have people accept that democracy is slavery.
My ideal form of governance is absolute dictatorship with a brilliant and benevolent autocrat (inb4 someone claims I just want to be the autocrat)
If we are all enslaved already, we might as well trade our insipid hydraesque master known as the general public for a better one.

[Diopolis]

I would completely understand the arguement that, while it is technically slavery, you don't care because it isn't "bad slavery." You might even believe that democracy is the best posited form of governance, but that doesn't make it not slavery, that just makes you a slaver apologist.

I hope this guy is kidding.

I shall humor you, then. If democracy is just the slavery of one man to many people, and autocracy is the slavery of many people to one man, then isn't all government essentially slavery? Therefore, the only way to free ourselves from slavery would be anarchy.

I think that's what he's advocating for.

[United Dependencies]

I don't think you slavery the slavery of the slavery-ation.

I Slavery Slavery you Slavery Slavery Slavery of the Slavery.

See spot.

See spot enslave.

See spot enslave Jane with his begging for treats while he lounges about all day while Jane works a real job.

[Regnum Dominae]

Entropy is slavery.

This is getting silly.

Impeach gravity, legalize magnetism, velocity is theft.

[Napkiraly]

....get your perjoratives right.

"Socialists", not "liberals". We don't want some bright young spark looking at the word "liberal" and realising that it derives from the root-word "liberty", do we? That might create the accurate wrong impression that liberalism is about anything other than the enslavement of the makers to the takers under the auspices of a power-mad, Orwellian gubbermint!

LIBERTY IS SLAVERY

EBONY IS IVORY

Ebony
and Ivory
livin in perfect slavery.