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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:10 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:Most of the ad hominems that people throw at me are related to my alleged Nazism. I've been told on multiple occasions that I am going to go to hell for being a Nazi.

I've also gotten some disturbing antisemitic flak from neo-Nazis when they realized that I was making fun of them. One guy posted a picture of emaciated prisoners in Buchenwald Concentration Camp and said, "This shows that your people survived the Holocaust quite well." Even though I am not Jewish, I still found it to be one of the most insulting things anyone has ever said to me on NSG. Another Nazi guy (also under the mistaken impression that I was Jewish) went on a rant about how it must be hard being a woman AND a Jew because women are weak and Jews are just shit.

I'm female, but it sometimes takes people a while to figure that out since Nazi nations are usually teenage boys.

:blink: Damn, that's... like, bad.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:10 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Did you ever get involved with Karinzistan, while he was around? I was called a "poophead." :lol:

Individuality-ness knows what I'm talking about.

Was that the REVOLUTION! guy? I think he liked me... or maybe I just had too much fun and twisted that into "he liked me".

Yep. He sure was. I actually contributed to the porn+meme-spam that ruined his NationStates.webs.com, lol.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:11 pm

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Nazi Flower Power wrote:Most of the ad hominems that people throw at me are related to my alleged Nazism. I've been told on multiple occasions that I am going to go to hell for being a Nazi.

I've also gotten some disturbing antisemitic flak from neo-Nazis when they realized that I was making fun of them. One guy posted a picture of emaciated prisoners in Buchenwald Concentration Camp and said, "This shows that your people survived the Holocaust quite well." Even though I am not Jewish, I still found it to be one of the most insulting things anyone has ever said to me on NSG. Another Nazi guy (also under the mistaken impression that I was Jewish) went on a rant about how it must be hard being a woman AND a Jew because women are weak and Jews are just shit.

I'm female, but it sometimes takes people a while to figure that out since Nazi nations are usually teenage boys.

:blink: Damn, that's... like, bad.


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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:11 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Was that the REVOLUTION! guy? I think he liked me... or maybe I just had too much fun and twisted that into "he liked me".

Yep. He sure was. I actually contributed to the porn+meme-spam that ruined his NationStates.webs.com, lol.

I remember that. That was amusing.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:12 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yep. He sure was. I actually contributed to the porn+meme-spam that ruined his NationStates.webs.com, lol.

I remember that. That was amusing.

Really fun, because of the lack of mods. It took us about three minutes to completely wreck that shit. That's what he wanted though, I guess.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:14 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:I remember that. That was amusing.

Really fun, because of the lack of mods. It took us about three minutes to completely wreck that shit. That's what he wanted though, I guess.

I kind of wish we kept him around. I have a weird sense of fun, though.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:14 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:Most of the ad hominems that people throw at me are related to my alleged Nazism. I've been told on multiple occasions that I am going to go to hell for being a Nazi.

I've also gotten some disturbing antisemitic flak from neo-Nazis when they realized that I was making fun of them. One guy posted a picture of emaciated prisoners in Buchenwald Concentration Camp and said, "This shows that your people survived the Holocaust quite well." Even though I am not Jewish, I still found it to be one of the most insulting things anyone has ever said to me on NSG. Another Nazi guy (also under the mistaken impression that I was Jewish) went on a rant about how it must be hard being a woman AND a Jew because women are weak and Jews are just shit.

I'm female, but it sometimes takes people a while to figure that out since Nazi nations are usually teenage boys.

I used to have a puppet (representing my political views) in the GGR, being a Fascist, ya know. Thought I'd be all right. *rolls eyes* I was shredded apart the first time I criticised Hitler's military genius. Ostracised when I didn't express complete hatred of Jews. And I was a faithful raider of theirs. *sighs* As you said, Nazis gonna Nazi.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:14 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I remember that. That was amusing.

Really fun, because of the lack of mods. It took us about three minutes to completely wreck that shit. That's what he wanted though, I guess.

Maybe. I know he has/had a forum. Not sure if it still exists.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:15 pm

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:I've only ever really had the problem of people creating ridiculous strawmen of things I've posted and then going "therefore you are an x" where x is whatever scareword is appropriate to the conversation - statist shill, fascist, commie etc.

Pure ad hominems aren't something I ever really remember encountering. Maybe it's because my gender confuses people.

Cold water = girl - hot water = guy. Really don't understand where the confusion comes from.


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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:16 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Really fun, because of the lack of mods. It took us about three minutes to completely wreck that shit. That's what he wanted though, I guess.

Maybe. I know he has/had a forum. Not sure if it still exists.

No, it doesn't.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:16 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Really fun, because of the lack of mods. It took us about three minutes to completely wreck that shit. That's what he wanted though, I guess.

I kind of wish we kept him around. I have a weird sense of fun, though.

I don't know. He could get people in trouble, making them flame him. He reported me to the mods because I called him "Kare-Bear." Got a no-no TG. Talked to a mod - Reppy, maybe? - about it, who said that was mainly something they had to do, and that the guy really was a dick. Who was soon DOSd anyway.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:16 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Maybe. I know he has/had a forum. Not sure if it still exists.

No, it doesn't.

Ah, good.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:17 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Really fun, because of the lack of mods. It took us about three minutes to completely wreck that shit. That's what he wanted though, I guess.

Maybe. I know he has/had a forum. Not sure if it still exists.

No, it's gone. I was on there the entire time it existed - he deleted it within an hour.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:17 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:I kind of wish we kept him around. I have a weird sense of fun, though.

I don't know. He could get people in trouble, making them flame him. He reported me to the mods because I called him "Kare-Bear." Got a no-no TG. Talked to a mod - Reppy, maybe? - about it, who said that was mainly something they had to do, and that the guy really was a dick. Who was soon DOSd anyway.

End of the 14th incarnation of TET. *shudder*
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:17 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Cold water = girl - hot water = guy. Really don't understand where the confusion comes from.


Unless I use waterproof soap.

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:p
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:18 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:I kind of wish we kept him around. I have a weird sense of fun, though.

I don't know. He could get people in trouble, making them flame him. He reported me to the mods because I called him "Kare-Bear." Got a no-no TG. Talked to a mod - Reppy, maybe? - about it, who said that was mainly something they had to do, and that the guy really was a dick. Who was soon DOSd anyway.

Yeah - good point.
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Postby Forsher » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:19 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Forsher wrote:There are only a few times where someone's sexuality and gender make a difference towards their opinion. For example the Straight White Male default thread, it was sort of relevant when we were comparing the nature of the default characters in our own works to look at the idea more personally.

I remember that. That was a fruitful discussion.

The thread in question was a gender-neutrality thread, and the reason it was brought up was because I stated that I'd rather be called an actor than an actress and that telling someone that only men can be called actors and women actresses is sexist.


Sometimes a genuinely different perspective does help things. For example, from ANZG... about a topic I created a while back. (It's about, for want of a better term, ethnic artistic motifs being used by other ethnicities outside of the original context.)
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:22 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:I remember that. That was a fruitful discussion.

The thread in question was a gender-neutrality thread, and the reason it was brought up was because I stated that I'd rather be called an actor than an actress and that telling someone that only men can be called actors and women actresses is sexist.

Sometimes a genuinely different perspective does help things. For example, from ANZG... about a topic I created a while back. (It's about, for want of a better term, ethnic artistic motifs being used by other ethnicities outside of the original context.)

Hm. I can understand his view point too, and I can agree with it.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:23 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote: :blink: Damn, that's... like, bad.


Nazis gonna Nazi. What can you do?

Fight Nazi with Nazi?
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:24 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:Most of the ad hominems that people throw at me are related to my alleged Nazism. I've been told on multiple occasions that I am going to go to hell for being a Nazi.

I've also gotten some disturbing antisemitic flak from neo-Nazis when they realized that I was making fun of them. One guy posted a picture of emaciated prisoners in Buchenwald Concentration Camp and said, "This shows that your people survived the Holocaust quite well." Even though I am not Jewish, I still found it to be one of the most insulting things anyone has ever said to me on NSG. Another Nazi guy (also under the mistaken impression that I was Jewish) went on a rant about how it must be hard being a woman AND a Jew because women are weak and Jews are just shit.

I'm female, but it sometimes takes people a while to figure that out since Nazi nations are usually teenage boys.

I used to have a puppet (representing my political views) in the GGR, being a Fascist, ya know. Thought I'd be all right. *rolls eyes* I was shredded apart the first time I criticised Hitler's military genius. Ostracised when I didn't express complete hatred of Jews. And I was a faithful raider of theirs. *sighs* As you said, Nazis gonna Nazi.


I did a brief stint as a resident of the GGR, and I was disappointed too. I had been in a fascist region before that, and even though I am not a sincere fascist, I got along with them pretty well and we had some interesting conversations. GGR wasn't fun like that. Leather-clad Germany has a sense of humor and can be entertaining, but most of the others are just closed-minded and pointlessly antisemitic.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:25 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Nazis gonna Nazi. What can you do?

Fight Nazi with Nazi?

YOU HATE JEWS HUH?! WELL I REALLY FUCKING HATE JEWS SO HEIL

OH YEAH I HATE JEWS WAY MORE THAN YOU THEY'RE THE JUICE HEIL HITLER HEIL HITLER

HEILHEILHEILHEIL FUCK JEWBANKERBOLSHEVIKS

HITLER IS GREAT A GREAT PERSON HE'S AWESOME I LOVE ADOLF I HATE THE JUICE I CALL THEM THE JUICE ALL THE TIME EVEN TO MY FRIENDS SO HEIL
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:26 pm

I've been insulted in Spanish (via TG) once and I don't even know fully what was said.

All I know is that "fucking clown" was one of the phrases used to describe me.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:28 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I've been insulted in Spanish (via TG) once and I don't even know fully what was said.

All I know is that "fucking clown" was one of the phrases used to describe me.

I wish I could read that, I know a few friends who could translate it. But fucking clown? That could be a complement in a way. :P
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Postby Forsher » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:32 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Forsher wrote:Sometimes a genuinely different perspective does help things. For example, from ANZG... about a topic I created a while back. (It's about, for want of a better term, ethnic artistic motifs being used by other ethnicities outside of the original context.)

Hm. I can understand his view point too, and I can agree with it.


ANZG is pretty much the perfect NSG thread. I think it's possibly because anything that goes on it we have to live through so...

That said, Nazis gonna Nazi, that's brilliant.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:33 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I've been insulted in Spanish (via TG) once and I don't even know fully what was said.

All I know is that "fucking clown" was one of the phrases used to describe me.

I wish I could read that, I know a few friends who could translate it.

It was probably illegible anyway, Google Translate had a hard enough time.

Individuality-ness wrote:But fucking clown? That could be a complement in a way. :P
You have a strange perception of what a compliment is. :p
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