What Is The Republican Path To Victory?

[Czechanada]

Quickly, ban non-american media.

Is there any such thing?

CBC.

[Genivaria]

50!? A minimum wage worker makes only 15,000 a year. That's not enough to live on.

The only reason that I'm as financially 'comterble' as I am is because I'm not living by myself, I'm living with my mother and stepfather who make the majority of money and I occasionally have money taken out of my account so they can pay for utilities or other things.
If I were living by myself I'd be struggling to pay the rent and eating ramen noodles every day, and that's without even getting into how I also have to pay for gas money.
Cable? Phone? Internet? Ha! I couldn't pay those. And a phone number is almost required to get hired.

[UNIverseVERSE]

You're the one who made the claim that the average person makes 50000 a year.
Guess what's usually used for average income? Median.
Therefore, half of the population is above, and half is below.

And furthermore, typically quoted 'average incomes' are very misleading, because income is a distribution with a long tail.

What this means is that there's a fairly hard floor on how much money you can be earning: $0. But there's no ceiling, you can just keep on piling on the cash.

So if you just add up everyone's incomes and divide by the number of people (a basic mean, aka an 'average') you get a massively inflated figure - ten people are earning 25k, and the tenth is earning 2.5mil.

If you look at the average income of e.g. the bottom 95% of the population, you get a massively lower figure than if you look at the whole population. So saying "the average person earns 50k a year" is pretty much nonsense - you need to understand the distribution before you know if just quoting the mean tells you anything useful.

[Blakk Metal]

Actually, they should stop trampling on most everyone.

Maybe that'd work out for them.

But think of the poor religious right wing extremists! Where shall they go to when the Republicans start purging their ranks from the batshit insane?

The shitties of Pensacola, Lake City and Tallahassee, the most Southern shitties in the South.

[Wikkiwallana]

Yes, he fucking is.
How many times do you have to be told that not everyone has as much money as you? Not everybody's family makes 850000 dollars a year. Some people actually have hardships.

but....


if the average person is making 50,000 a year, that is quite sufficient.

Is that the mode average or the mean average?

[The Rich Port]

but....


if the average person is making 50,000 a year, that is quite sufficient.

Is that the mode average or the mean average?

My guess is he doesn't know.

BTW, for anyone that doesn't know, mode is the most occuring variable in a data set, and mean is the average overall of the tallied data set.

[Wikkiwallana]

Is that the mode average or the mean average?

My guess is he doesn't know.

BTW, for anyone that doesn't know, mode is the most occuring variable in a data set, and mean is the average overall of the tallied data set.

Damn it, half the point was to see if he even knew what those words meant. It's a great "talking out of their ass" detection tool.

[Uieurnthlaal]

Disband.

[Hornesia]

Kick out the Tea Party and the far-right Christian Dominionists. Stop trying to push anti-science policies, and focus on sane center-right economics instead of "OBAMA IS A COMMIE!!11!!". Stop the war on non-Christians, women, gays, etc.

The rhetoric against the President has been horrible, true. I don't recall any President from either party being subjected to such shoddy treatment at the hands of other elected officials and major opposition party figures in my lifetime.

George W. Bush. Mostly at the hands of the other party. Most politicians are hypocrites.

[Wikkiwallana]

The rhetoric against the President has been horrible, true. I don't recall any President from either party being subjected to such shoddy treatment at the hands of other elected officials and major opposition party figures in my lifetime.

George W. Bush. Mostly at the hands of the other party. Most politicians are hypocrites.

Democrats did not downgrade the countries credit rating to spite W. We did not question his citizenship, religion, loyalty to the country. We did not let actual legislation moulder unaddressed while attempting over 40 repeals of his signature legislation which we knew to be doomed before ven voting. We did not make deals, break them, and then expect the other party to cave to our new demands over the threat of shutting down the country, again and again and again. We did not call him racial epithets, or extend our insults to him onto his family as well. We didn't invent bullshit about his proposed legislation, programs, and initiatives being designed to force euthanasia on the elderly, brainwash children à la hitler youth, or enforce discrimination against vast majorities of the population. And when a tragedy hit the country, in the form of a terrorist attack, we rallied around him, rather than using it as an excuse to make up partisan bullshit and waste months of the country's time in a blatantly transparent and unbelievably ham-fisted smear campaign.

Edit: typo

[Yumyumsuppertime]

George W. Bush. Mostly at the hands of the other party. Most politicians are hypocrites.

Democrats did not downgrade the countries credit rating to spite W. We did not question his citizenship, religion, loyalty to the country. We did not let actual legislation moulder unaddressed while attempting over 40 repeals of his signature legislation which we knew to be doomed before ven voting. We did not make deals, break them, and then expect the other party to cave to our new demands over the threat of shutting down the country, again and again and again. We did not call him racial epithets, or extend our insults to him onto his family as well. We didn't invent bullshit about his proposed legislation, programs, and initiatives being designed to force euthanasia on the elderly, brainwash children à la
hitler youth, or enforce discrimination against vast majorities of the population. And when a tragedy hit the country, in the form of a terrorist attack, we rallied around him, rather than using it as an excuse to make up partisan bullshit and waste months of the country's time in a blatantly transparent and unbelievably ham-fisted smear campaign.

This. The two can't be compared.

[GoldenDawnLight]

Abandon hot-button social issues in order to focus on communicating a message of sound economics and fiscal responsibility that America sorely needs.

[Genivaria]

Abandon hot-button social issues in order to focus on communicating a message of sound economics and fiscal responsibility that America sorely needs.

Yeah they tried that in '08, not many seemed to like their economics after Bush and the recession and the housing crisis.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Abandon hot-button social issues in order to focus on communicating a message of sound economics and fiscal responsibility that America sorely needs.

I would have them adopt a policy of being friendly to the LGBT community, to. And perhaps ditch free market capitalist ideals.

[The Rich Port]

Abandon hot-button social issues in order to focus on communicating a message of sound economics and fiscal responsibility that America sorely needs.

Isn't that what they tried with Click Sockme?

[Regnum Dominae]

Abandon hot-button social issues in order to focus on communicating a message of sound economics and fiscal responsibility that America sorely needs.

Yeah they tried that in '08, not many seemed to like their economics after Bush and the recession and the housing crisis.

Well, to be fair, it was after 8 years of a shitty GOP president...

[Genivaria]

Yeah they tried that in '08, not many seemed to like their economics after Bush and the recession and the housing crisis.

Well, to be fair, it was after 8 years of a shitty GOP president...

A fair point.

[Regnum Dominae]

Well, to be fair, it was after 8 years of a shitty GOP president...

A fair point.

And they also had Palin as VP pick. That alienated A LOT of people, including my parents.

[Genivaria]

A fair point.

And they also had Palin as VP pick. That alienated A LOT of people, including my parents.

Oh good god yes, as much as I disliked McCain's platform he probably could've done very well with his appeal to social conservatives as well as his military background, but Palin absolutely KILLED his chances imo.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

A fair point.

And they also had Palin as VP pick. That alienated A LOT of people, including my parents.

Palin wasn't half bad...Until words started coming out of her mouth.

[Alien Space Bats]

Public Transport is a bad investment for government.....unless of course citizens have the option of choosing either public or private transport, and those using private transport don't have to pay for it.

Clearly, you don't live in a city.

After opening yet another parking structure in downtown Ann Arbor (a small city of just over 100,000 at the westernmost edge of the Detroit metro area), Mayor John Hieftje told local media that he hoped this would be the last such facility the city builds for a while. As someone who goes into Ann Arbor more than once I week, I understand perfectly where he's coming from: There's simply no further room for widening the main downtown streets any further without disrupting and/or destroying scores of local businesses; and with the present road net, the number of cars in the downtown area is simply insane, especially on a weekend evening. At this stage, a lot of Washtenaw County residents would sooner chew off their right hands than drive downtown — and it's only going to get worse. Unless we want the downtown to fall apart and turn into a crime-ridden slum — and nobody wants that — we've got to get people in and out of there without having them bring their cars along with them.

This is where public transit comes in: It provides a way of reducing traffic and keeping those crowded downtown streets reasonably navigable.

[Vazdania]

Public Transport is a bad investment for government.....unless of course citizens have the option of choosing either public or private transport, and those using private transport don't have to pay for it.

Clearly, you don't live in a city.

After opening yet another parking structure in downtown Ann Arbor (a small city of just over 100,000 at the westernmost edge of the Detroit metro area), Mayor John Hieftje told local media that he hoped this would be the last such facility the city builds for a while. As someone who goes into Ann Arbor more than once I week, I understand perfectly where he's coming from: There's simply no further room for widening the main downtown streets any further without disrupting and/or destroying scores of local businesses; and with the present road net, the number of cars in the downtown area is simply insane, especially on a weekend evening. At this stage, a lot of Washtenaw County residents would sooner chew off their right hands than drive downtown — and it's only going to get worse. Unless we want the downtown to fall apart and turn into a crime-ridden slum — and nobody wants that — we've got to get people in and out of there without having them bring their cars along with them.

This is where public transit comes in: It provides a way of reducing traffic and keeping those crowded downtown streets reasonably navigable.

I freaking live in ye' olde Idaho.

It becomes acceptable if those who use it,pay for it.

[Farnhamia]

And they also had Palin as VP pick. That alienated A LOT of people, including my parents.

Oh good god yes, as much as I disliked McCain's platform he probably could've done very well with his appeal to social conservatives as well as his military background, but Palin absolutely KILLED his chances imo.

But ... but ... wasn't she supposed to convince all of Hillary Clinton's supporters to vote for McCain?

[Genivaria]

Oh good god yes, as much as I disliked McCain's platform he probably could've done very well with his appeal to social conservatives as well as his military background, but Palin absolutely KILLED his chances imo.

But ... but ... wasn't she supposed to convince all of Hillary Clinton's supporters to vote for McCain?

Yeah the GOP doesn't seem to get that you can't get the a minority vote just by having a minority candidate, especially if said candidate's platform is antithetical to said demographic.
The same can be said of Bachmann.

[Alien Space Bats]

I freaking live in ye' olde Idaho.

It becomes acceptable if those who use it,pay for it.

Do you pay for the interstate highways that cross your State? Or do my tax dollars help pay for your highways?

Given that Michigan never gets back what we give the Federal government, dollar for dollar, while Idaho gets back more from the Federal government than it pays in, I'm going to take a chance and say that I pay for your fucking highways, as well as the mass transit in my own State. So as far as I'm concerned, you've got no basis whatsoever to bitch about mass transit.

I mean, why in the fuck should I give you all my money? Don't I get a little to keep for my own needs?!? Or did someone die and make you King?

This is the problem I have with conservatives: They refuse to accept that we're all in this together.