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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:11 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Vazdania wrote:that doesn't even make sense.

Why not? According to you if your race makes up X% of the populace, then your race should be drawing X% of the welfare, and therefore X% of your race should be under the poverty line.

However, Whites are not drawing 73% of welfare, and therefore the difference constitutes an advantage by your own words.

Whites can't have an advantage silly, we're too busy paying for lazy moochers. Which reminds me, should I get a second job so you can afford more crack and bling?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:12 pm

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Souseiseki wrote:you're never going to use an ovarian cancer vaccine

will you pay for it?

yes because I CHOOSE to do so....one shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

Taxes are not the same as you buying something. Taxes are your contribution to the establishment of Justice, to the insurance of domestic Tranquility, to the provision for the common defence, to the promotion of the general Welfare, and to the securing of the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Nothing more, nothing less. The United States of America is not an à la carte menu. You pay a price fixed by your ability to pay and you get to enjoy a feast that millions of people envy every day.
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Postby Edlichbury » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:12 pm

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Edlichbury wrote:Because it's irrational to conclude that you will never need a certain good just because of your current state.

when I need that good then I should pay for it.

And if that good doesn't exist because no one paid for it yet? You can't assume that you will never need a good. It's paying for a good in advance to defuse the costs of it later, the same principle in effect when you pay insurance premiums.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:14 pm

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Edlichbury wrote:Because it's irrational to conclude that you will never need a certain good just because of your current state.

when I need that good then I should pay for it.

You can pay $10 a month for it now, or you can pay the whole $5,000 procedure later.
And your choosing the latter?
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:18 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Why not? According to you if your race makes up X% of the populace, then your race should be drawing X% of the welfare, and therefore X% of your race should be under the poverty line.

However, Whites are not drawing 73% of welfare, and therefore the difference constitutes an advantage by your own words.

Whites can't have an advantage silly, we're too busy paying for lazy moochers. Which reminds me, should I get a second job so you can afford more crack and bling?

Actually, I'm white. And I was on Unemployment.


Why in hell don't I have any crack and/or bling? >:(

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Postby AiliailiA » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:18 pm

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Ailiailia wrote:
That's a good idea. To be cynical about it, they wouldn't even need to bear the risk that a massive terrorist attack occurs and Patrot Act would have stopped it ... because the Act wouldn't actually get repealed. A bit like the Ryan budget, which a bunch of House Republicans would never have endorsed if it had a chance of passing the Senate and President.

I doubt they could get a majority in the House to repeal it completely though. Even as a symbolic gesture.

Tell them they are repealing Obamacare again. They'll do it 6 times before the week is out.


Brilliant!

Since Obamacare is a name Republicans made up, there's no reason they can't name other things Obamacare too. Like the Federal Reserve Act 1913, or the Social Security Act 1935.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:19 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:yes because I CHOOSE to do so....one shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

Taxes are not the same as you buying something. Taxes are your contribution to the establishment of Justice, to the insurance of domestic Tranquility, to the provision for the common defence, to the promotion of the general Welfare, and to the securing of the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Nothing more, nothing less. The United States of America is not an à la carte menu. You pay a price fixed by your ability to pay and you get to enjoy a feast that millions of people envy every day.

Farn I think I just fell in love with you.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:20 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Taxes are not the same as you buying something. Taxes are your contribution to the establishment of Justice, to the insurance of domestic Tranquility, to the provision for the common defence, to the promotion of the general Welfare, and to the securing of the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Nothing more, nothing less. The United States of America is not an à la carte menu. You pay a price fixed by your ability to pay and you get to enjoy a feast that millions of people envy every day.

Farn I think I just fell in love with you.

:hug:
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:20 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Vazdania wrote:when I need that good then I should pay for it.

You can pay $10 a month for it now, or you can pay the whole $5,000 procedure later.
And your choosing the latter?

yes? why wouldn't I???? It could be years before that incident occurred, and when it does occur I could have paid more than 5,000.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:21 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Whites can't have an advantage silly, we're too busy paying for lazy moochers. Which reminds me, should I get a second job so you can afford more crack and bling?

Actually, I'm white. And I was on Unemployment.


Why in hell don't I have any crack and/or bling? >:(

cause youre white
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:22 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:Because it's irrational to conclude that you will never need a certain good just because of your current state.

when I need that good then I should pay for it.

You can't be serious.

I point you to Tennessee, a people stupid enough to follow through on this train of thought:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tennessee-family-home-burns-while-firefighters-watch-191241763.html

They had to watch as the Fire Department let their house burn to the ground because that area thought what you're saying was a good idea.

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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:23 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Vazdania wrote:when I need that good then I should pay for it.

You can't be serious.

I point you to Tennessee, a people stupid enough to follow through on this train of thought:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tennessee-family-home-burns-while-firefighters-watch-191241763.html

They had to watch as the Fire Department let their house burn to the ground because that area thought what you're saying was a good idea.

The Police/ the Fire Department are services which are always in use.
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:23 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Actually, I'm white. And I was on Unemployment.


Why in hell don't I have any crack and/or bling? >:(

cause youre white

So you're telling me I have to have drawn Welfare but I don't get to be a Queen? Well this sucks.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:23 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You can pay $10 a month for it now, or you can pay the whole $5,000 procedure later.
And your choosing the latter?

yes? why wouldn't I???? It could be years before that incident occurred, and when it does occur I could have paid more than 5,000.

yes? why wouldn't I????

I don't know why you would, I most certainly don't feel like gambling with my life like you do.
and when it does occur I could have paid more than 5,000.

So you're assuming that you'll have 5 grand on hand at that time? That's a pretty risky assumption to make.
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Postby Edlichbury » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:23 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You can pay $10 a month for it now, or you can pay the whole $5,000 procedure later.
And your choosing the latter?

yes? why wouldn't I???? It could be years before that incident occurred, and when it does occur I could have paid more than 5,000.

That assumes you paid for more than 40 years by the time it happened. And that you've saved $5,000, or be prepared to pay significantly more than $10 a month on interest.

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Postby Maurepas » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:24 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Maurepas wrote:You can't be serious.

I point you to Tennessee, a people stupid enough to follow through on this train of thought:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tennessee-family-home-burns-while-firefighters-watch-191241763.html

They had to watch as the Fire Department let their house burn to the ground because that area thought what you're saying was a good idea.

Police/ Fire Department members are services which are always in use.

You always need the Fire Department? What kind of house are you living in? :blink:

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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:24 pm

Edlichbury wrote:
Vazdania wrote:yes? why wouldn't I???? It could be years before that incident occurred, and when it does occur I could have paid more than 5,000.

That assumes you paid for more than 40 years by the time it happened. And that you've saved $5,000, or be prepared to pay significantly more than $10 a month on interest.

Well who doesn't have $5,000 saved up? :eyebrow:
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Postby Edlichbury » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:25 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Maurepas wrote:You can't be serious.

I point you to Tennessee, a people stupid enough to follow through on this train of thought:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tennessee-family-home-burns-while-firefighters-watch-191241763.html

They had to watch as the Fire Department let their house burn to the ground because that area thought what you're saying was a good idea.

The Police/ the Fire Department are services which are always in use.

Except at the time they weren't in use at all. They did the specific opposite of being in use because of lack of funds.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:25 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Police/ Fire Department members are services which are always in use.

You always need the Fire Department? What kind of house are you living in? :blink:

That ... ah ... charcoal grey one down the block.
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:26 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Police/ Fire Department members are services which are always in use.

You always need the Fire Department? What kind of house are you living in? :blink:

I'm Italian :lol: Cooking, always fires everywhere XD lolz.

The Police and Fire Department should always been in use.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:26 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:That assumes you paid for more than 40 years by the time it happened. And that you've saved $5,000, or be prepared to pay significantly more than $10 a month on interest.

Well who doesn't have $5,000 saved up? :eyebrow:

.....Seriously?
That's the kind of question I'd ask sarcastically.
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:26 pm

Edlichbury wrote:
Vazdania wrote:The Police/ the Fire Department are services which are always in use.

Except at the time they weren't in use at all. They did the specific opposite of being in use because of lack of funds.

its a service that everyone uses all the time.
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Postby Edlichbury » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:26 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:That assumes you paid for more than 40 years by the time it happened. And that you've saved $5,000, or be prepared to pay significantly more than $10 a month on interest.

Well who doesn't have $5,000 saved up? :eyebrow:

A significant portion of America, including the millions living in poverty. Not everyone is a financially secure white male.

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Postby Vazdania » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:27 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Well who doesn't have $5,000 saved up? :eyebrow:

.....Seriously?
That's the kind of question I'd ask sarcastically.

:eyebrow:
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:27 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:Except at the time they weren't in use at all. They did the specific opposite of being in use because of lack of funds.

its a service that everyone uses all the time.

Really? I've never had my house catch fire, why the hell should I pay for it then, using your logic.
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