What Is The Republican Path To Victory?

[ALMF]

That person exists. He's called Obama. Too bad he's a democrat.

Obamacare is the same as Reaganomics?

Wtf mate

It's a Reagan aria Heritage policie. So yes it is Reaganomics.

[ALMF]

Or, the more likely scenario is that minorities favor democratic policies.

What you think of Obama has nothing to do with that.

Blacks vote for Obama because he's black is what it seems like to me, and hispanics vote for him because he's going to give them handouts, citizenship and a green card to all their families back in Mexico. That's an oversimplification of course.

Then why do white democrats beat black republicans among blacks and latin republicans among Latinos?

[Gauthier]

Blacks vote for Obama because he's black is what it seems like to me, and hispanics vote for him because he's going to give them handouts, citizenship and a green card to all their families back in Mexico. That's an oversimplification of course.

Then why do white democrats beat black republicans among blacks and latin republicans among Latinos?

Because white Democrats hand out bigger gift baskets to Latinos, duh. *nod nod*

[Myrensis]

So center-right is extremist now?

It's just mindless conservative meme spewing.

Put a quarter (saying the word 'Obama') in the slot, and their eyes roll back in their heads and they spit out a little ball labelled 'Socialist!' or 'Extremist!'

Then why do white democrats beat black republicans among blacks and latin republicans among Latinos?

Shh, you're going to make him hurt himself. Republicans absolutely have to cling to their conviction that minorities are incapable of any kind of rational decision making and voting in their own best interests, and just follow whichever candidates' skin tone is closest to theirs. It vindicates the part of their base that likes to grumble about those lazy welfare queen darkies being dumb moochers, and reassures the other part with the promise that growing numbers of minority voters are no cause for concern, they can nab them at any time just by throwing a token minority on the ticket.

[Free Soviets]

You mean Obama isn't going to come to my house and throw money around while stripping and dancing to "I'm Sexy And I Know It" simply because I'm black?

Dammit.

where's the change, obama?

[Gauthier]

You mean Obama isn't going to come to my house and throw money around while stripping and dancing to "I'm Sexy And I Know It" simply because I'm black?

Dammit.

where's the change, obama?

In his thongs obviously.

[Ashmoria]

Jumping Jesus Christ, it is NOT about "stuff".

Get that into your head.

It's about wanting your government to actually LISTEN to your concerns and address your needs.

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Or do you consider having police officers show up in my neighborhood when I need them to be "getting stuff"? Do you consider having roads that are free of snow, garbage, potholes, and runoff "getting stuff"? Do you consider having public schools that work "getting stuff"? Do you consider having streetlights that work "getting stuff"? Do you consider having stores and jobs in your neighborhood "getting stuff"? Do you consider having the right to vote without being hassled "getting stuff"? Do you consider not getting shot while standing on a street corner or being gunned down by some scared gun owner for the heinous crime of being in his or her line of vision and thus "scaring" him or her "getting stuff"?

Your idea of a perfect world seems to be a lot like Ted Kaczynski's: You seem to want to like on some forested ridge in Montana with your gun and your spread, hunt and kill small animals for a living, and otherwise never see anybody on your land. And anything other than that apparently constitutes "getting stuff" from the government.

A great many of us like urban life; we like living someplace where there's more to do than listen to the wind, the rain, and the crickets. We like the night life; we like socializing; we like living in communities. Maintaining such communities requires a delicate web of interactions between business, consumers, workers, commuters, and government; to date, nobody has ever managed to devise a way of running cities without HAVING government. We even use a word for the operation of government — civics — which is derived from the Latin word civis ("citizen"), which in turn implies a relationship between people and government. This is the great failing of the GOP: They have become a Party defined by their near-total opposition to government, which necessarily entails opposition to the very existence of cities, society, and even civilization itself. They have no ideology beyond nihilism and — whether they know it or not — an a set of beliefs that, in their ultimate form, collapse into medieval manorialism.

You mean Obama isn't going to come to my house and throw money around while stripping and dancing to "I'm Sexy And I Know It" simply because I'm black?

Dammit.

pffft

of course he is. it takes time. there are millions of black citizens in America.

well.....he will if you are important enough. if not it'll be Charlie rangel doing the cha-cha-cha.

[Divair]

where's the change, obama?

In his thongs obviously.

I'm dying over here.

[Blakk Metal]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/05/rand-pauls-plan-to-rescue-detroit-break-down-one-of-americas-firmest-democratic-strongholds/

In addition to the article, I suggest you guys read the comments about Detroit. It's full of morons who believe that Detroit is completely run by niggers Democrats (the state government is controlled by Republicans) and full of niggers criminals who somehow manage to live off welfare for far more years than legally allowed.

[Nervium]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/05/rand-pauls-plan-to-rescue-detroit-break-down-one-of-americas-firmest-democratic-strongholds/

In addition to the article, I suggest you guys read the comments about Detroit. It's full of morons who believe that Detroit is completely run by niggers Democrats (the state government is controlled by Republicans) and full of niggers criminals who somehow manage to live off welfare for far more years than legally allowed.

Well, it's the Blaze, I mean, from the few times I have encountered that website...

Let's just say that lost wisdom can't be refound.

[Blakk Metal]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/05/rand-pauls-plan-to-rescue-detroit-break-down-one-of-americas-firmest-democratic-strongholds/

In addition to the article, I suggest you guys read the comments about Detroit. It's full of morons who believe that Detroit is completely run by niggers Democrats (the state government is controlled by Republicans) and full of niggers criminals who somehow manage to live off welfare for far more years than legally allowed.

Well, it's the Blaze, I mean, from the few times I have encountered that website...

Let's just say that lost wisdom can't be refound.

The website for Detroit's own CBS affiliate has the same crap.

[Death Metal]

Well, it's a pro-Rand Paul article. It's going to be intellectually dishonest one way or another.

[Gauthier]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/05/rand-pauls-plan-to-rescue-detroit-break-down-one-of-americas-firmest-democratic-strongholds/

In addition to the article, I suggest you guys read the comments about Detroit. It's full of morons who believe that Detroit is completely run by niggers Democrats (the state government is controlled by Republicans) and full of niggers criminals who somehow manage to live off welfare for far more years than legally allowed.

Isn't this the same Detroit that elected a white Republican mayor over a nigger Democrat?

[Blakk Metal]

Well, it's a pro-Rand Paul article. It's going to be intellectually dishonest one way or another.

The article is the most tolerable part.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/05/rand-pauls-plan-to-rescue-detroit-break-down-one-of-americas-firmest-democratic-strongholds/

In addition to the article, I suggest you guys read the comments about Detroit. It's full of morons who believe that Detroit is completely run by niggers Democrats (the state government is controlled by Republicans) and full of niggers criminals who somehow manage to live off welfare for far more years than legally allowed.

Isn't this the same Detroit that elected a white Republican mayor over a nigger Democrat?

Mike Duggan is a Democrat.

[Myrensis]

Well, it's a pro-Rand Paul article. It's going to be intellectually dishonest one way or another.

The article is the most tolerable part.

Isn't this the same Detroit that elected a white Republican mayor over a nigger Democrat?

Mike Duggan is a Democrat.

Which still should be impossible according to Republican beliefs about how minorities vote, which are essentially, "Me dumb nigger, me vote same color man."

[Akronia (Ancient)]

The Republican path to victory is to disestablish the RNC with its ideologues. Return to a more pre-1976 fiscal policy by the Parties of the several States and voting Territories to allow for more local control of election directives and potentially viable candidates. This will help provide candidates that are more in touch with the local constituents, even if they are at odds on some issues that the ruling class of the party does not like.

At the state levels, devolve the centralized control creep of the state chairmanships back to county levels so that the party once again represents the Republican principles which it purports to follow. County chairs are then more free to represent the local constituency by allowing the district chairs and precinct committeeman to once again have deliberative power in their assemblies. This frees them up to truly represent the people of their districts, because they ARE the people of their districts, instead of just a rubber stamp for whatever comes down the pike by way of RNC monies, and the machinations of the state chairs.

The county Republican Parties need to send their chairs and precinct committeeman into the streets and homes of the precincts to find out what the wants, needs, and desires of the constituents actually are instead of relying on talking heads, yes-men, and pollsters to spit into the wind to see which way it is blowing. By being a deliberative part of their local communities there can be a true path to Republican victory.

[Alien Space Bats]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/05/rand-pauls-plan-to-rescue-detroit-break-down-one-of-americas-firmest-democratic-strongholds/

In addition to the article, I suggest you guys read the comments about Detroit. It's full of morons who believe that Detroit is completely run by niggers Democrats (the state government is controlled by Republicans) and full of niggers criminals who somehow manage to live off welfare for far more years than legally allowed.

The comments are, of course, garbage. Sickeningly familiar garbage, I might add.

But you have to give it to Paul: He's the one Republican who has actually been making an effort to talk to urban black voters and find some basis on which to attract them to the Republican banner. The real test will be in the policy proposals that Paul and his allies come up with, of course; but that he's even willing to try means that he's several light years ahead of the rest of the GOP in trying to fix what's wrong with the Party.

Right now, it's all just cute baby steps; but if Republicans ever learn to run downtown, Democrats are going to regret not moving to close off that option sooner by taking advantage of the fact that the white exurban vote is no longer important to them in order to push a stronger urban agenda themselves.

Coalitions, after all, cannot be taken for granted...

[Hurdegaryp]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/05/rand-pauls-plan-to-rescue-detroit-break-down-one-of-americas-firmest-democratic-strongholds/

In addition to the article, I suggest you guys read the comments about Detroit. It's full of morons who believe that Detroit is completely run by niggers Democrats (the state government is controlled by Republicans) and full of niggers criminals who somehow manage to live off welfare for far more years than legally allowed.

The comments are, of course, garbage. Sickeningly familiar garbage, I might add.

But you have to give it to Paul: He's the one Republican who has actually been making an effort to talk to urban black voters and find some basis on which to attract them to the Republican banner. The real test will be in the policy proposals that Paul and his allies come up with, of course; but that he's even willing to try means that he's several light years ahead of the rest of the GOP in trying to fix what's wrong with the Party.

Right now, it's all just cute baby steps; but if Republicans ever learn to run downtown, Democrats are going to regret not moving to close off that option sooner by taking advantage of the fact that the white exurban vote is no longer important to them in order to push a stronger urban agenda themselves.

Coalitions, after all, cannot be taken for granted...

If the Republicans really want to get a significant share of the black vote, maybe they should try and purge anybody even remotely racist from the party. No compassion, no mercy, just systematic cleansing. The obvious joke here is that there won't be a Republican party left after you've done purging the ranks, but that would be too simple.

[Alien Space Bats]

If the Republicans really want to get a significant share of the black vote, maybe they should try and purge anybody even remotely racist from the party. No compassion, no mercy, just systematic cleansing. The obvious joke here is that there won't be a Republican party left after you've done purging the ranks, but that would be too simple.

American political Parties lack the power to purge themselves of unwanted members; but the RNC could certainly come up with a statement denouncing racism and insisting that Republican candidates consistently and steadfastly resist and oppose any effort by anyone to pander to racist sentiment. Such a commitment would go a long way towards mending fences with the African-American community.

But you're right: They won't do this. You would think it would be no problem for them; after all, they could simply switch to pointed rhetoric directed at those who live off the dole as "moochers" or 'deadbeats". The thing is, that would mean attacking poor rural and exurban whites, and the GOP doesn't want to do that. They don't want to castigate white single mothers and domestic abuse survivors who are trying to keep their heads afloat by working part-time at Wal-Mart while raising three kids fathered by some violent and unfaithful alcoholic asshole of an ex-husband who no longer pays child support thanks to having skipped the State, largely because doing so would kill them politically in the "Red" States; instead, they allow their candidates to use racialized code language that makes it clear that it's those inner city "welfare queens" and the "illegal" trash from Mexico that they find objectionable, allowing poor whites to slip in under the radar as mere "unfortunates".

[Hurdegaryp]

If the Republicans really want to get a significant share of the black vote, maybe they should try and purge anybody even remotely racist from the party. No compassion, no mercy, just systematic cleansing. The obvious joke here is that there won't be a Republican party left after you've done purging the ranks, but that would be too simple.

American political Parties lack the power to purge themselves of unwanted members; but the RNC could certainly come up with a statement denouncing racism and insisting that Republican candidates consistently and steadfastly resist and oppose any effort by anyone to pander to racist sentiment. Such a commitment would go a long way towards mending fences with the African-American community.

But you're right: They won't do this. You would think it would be no problem for them; after all, they could simply switch to pointed rhetoric directed at those who live off the dole as "moochers" or 'deadbeats". The thing is, that would mean attacking poor rural and exurban whites, and the GOP doesn't want to do that. They don't want to castigate white single mothers and domestic abuse survivors who are trying to keep their heads afloat by working part-time at Wal-Mart while raising three kids fathered by some violent and unfaithful alcoholic asshole of an ex-husband who no longer pays child support thanks to having skipped the State, largely because doing so would kill them politically in the "Red" States; instead, they allow their candidates to use racialized code language that makes it clear that it's those inner city "welfare queens" and the "illegal" trash from Mexico that they find objectionable, allowing poor whites to slip in under the radar as mere "unfortunates".

Using the divide between the decadent Big City and the pure & innocent rural areas to their advantage.

[Neutraligon]

American political Parties lack the power to purge themselves of unwanted members; but the RNC could certainly come up with a statement denouncing racism and insisting that Republican candidates consistently and steadfastly resist and oppose any effort by anyone to pander to racist sentiment. Such a commitment would go a long way towards mending fences with the African-American community.

But you're right: They won't do this. You would think it would be no problem for them; after all, they could simply switch to pointed rhetoric directed at those who live off the dole as "moochers" or 'deadbeats". The thing is, that would mean attacking poor rural and exurban whites, and the GOP doesn't want to do that. They don't want to castigate white single mothers and domestic abuse survivors who are trying to keep their heads afloat by working part-time at Wal-Mart while raising three kids fathered by some violent and unfaithful alcoholic asshole of an ex-husband who no longer pays child support thanks to having skipped the State, largely because doing so would kill them politically in the "Red" States; instead, they allow their candidates to use racialized code language that makes it clear that it's those inner city "welfare queens" and the "illegal" trash from Mexico that they find objectionable, allowing poor whites to slip in under the radar as mere "unfortunates".

Using the divide between the decadent Big City and the pure & innocent rural areas to their advantage.

It's more than just that. All you have to do is look at the difference in gun support to see the divide. The reason Republicans can and do support more lax gun laws is because they are talking about more rural areas. In those places, more lax gun laws actually make sense (at least in how guns are carried). However in doing so, they completely leave out the fact that in urban areas lax gun laws make completely no sense. This one issue where it actually makes sense to have different areas have different gun laws simply because of the fact urban and rural areas differ so much, and yet on this topic, they are very much against state rights.

[Alien Space Bats]

It's more than just that. All you have to do is look at the difference in gun support to see the divide. The reason Republicans can and do support more lax gun laws is because they are talking about more rural areas. In those places, more lax gun laws actually make sense (at least in how guns are carried). However in doing so, they completely leave out the fact that in urban areas lax gun laws make completely no sense. This one issue where it actually makes sense to have different areas have different gun laws simply because of the fact urban and rural areas differ so much, and yet on this topic, they are very much against state rights.

Actually, it goes well beyond THAT.

Republicans favor applying rural gun laws to CITIES in order to make life more convenient for RURAL Americans. Quite specifically, Republicans who advocate for lax gun law EVERYWHERE feel that rural gun owners from Wyoming or Texas ought to be able to travel anywhere (including into Downtown Chicago or Manhattan) without having to worry about whether the local gun laws in these places they visit are any different from the ones they face back home.

They quite literally have no regard for the wishes of the people who live in the places they visit; from their perspective, as random travellers and guests, they shouldn't have to change their behavior one jot. The world should be optimized for the sake of RURAL citizens, and to Hell with anybody else.

Closely connected with this is the belief that high crime rates ALWAYS coincide with tight gun laws. You can see this the aforementioned comments: The posters take it for granted that Detroit has the tightest gun laws in the country, and when you point out to them that this is not in fact the case (Michigan State law prohibits municipalities from regulating firearms in any fashion whatsoever), they scream "YOU LIE!!!", as though their perception of reality — which cannot POSSIBLY be wrong — is all that really matters. "Don't contradict my opinions with your so-called 'facts'; my opinions outweigh anything you might tell me."

This further reinforces their belief that casual visitors to America's cities have a right to be armed to the teeth, even where local opinion and custom would dictate otherwise. From the perspective of pro-gun Republicans, it is a matter of the fundamental right to self-defense; cities are crime ridden cesspools, and it is immoral to expect anybody to go down there with anything less than a full combat arsenal, ready for war and backed by laws permitting them to shoot on sight if "threatened".

So it's not just the rural-urban divide; it's rural perceptions of urban life and the belief that the Nation should be legally organized in such a way as to maximize the safety, security, and convenience of rural citizens, with no concern whatsoever for the needs or desires of those animals who live in our cities (who, to be perfectly honest, should probably not be allowed to vote anyway, not being Genuine Americans™ to begin with).

ADDENDUM: And just wait until the take things to the next level: Gun ownership and carriage as a fundamental human right across the planet. Several Republican politicians have already made noises about how the U.S. should use its power and influence to "persuade" other nations all around the world to recognize American-style gun rights. Today, America; tomorrow, the world.

[Blakk Metal]

ADDENDUM: And just wait until the take things to the next level: Gun ownership and carriage as a fundamental human right across the planet. Several Republican politicians have already made noises about how the U.S. should use its power and influence to "persuade" other nations all around the world to recognize American-style gun rights. Today, America; tomorrow, the world.

Really?

[Alien Space Bats]

ADDENDUM: And just wait until the take things to the next level: Gun ownership and carriage as a fundamental human right across the planet. Several Republican politicians have already made noises about how the U.S. should use its power and influence to "persuade" other nations all around the world to recognize American-style gun rights. Today, America; tomorrow, the world.

Really?

Newt Gingrich was the first to go down this path. Of course, Newt isn't really to be taken seriously, but since then I've seen a smattering of Republican (who apparently never got the memo about Newt) pick up the banner and run with it.

Some things are only a matter of time...

[Minnysota]

nothing wrong with background checks but at the same time nothing wrong with assault weapons :]